It’s like their ugliness went from inside to outside.
They’re wearing their heart on their face.
thier wearing a face mask they took off a younger girl.
It’s like most science fiction revolving around this particular topic. The ostentatious need to show off this sort of perverse wrecking of somebody’s skin and face is meant to signal something. This is a modern version of being fat to show that you have wealth.
It’s meant to show that you have the disposable income to become whatever version of beautiful Trump wants. In this case it’s seeking out Eastern European features one faces that otherwise wouldn’t house them.
And why everything looks like a goddamn clown mask. They’ve gone too far too fast and with too much modification. Welcome to repo the genetic opera or so many other stories.
in trek insurrection the sona had a face stretching machine to look younger.
That one did cross my mind as well.
Corporate wants you to find the difference between these pictures
Reminds me more of The Purge.
The likeness is uncanny.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago_face
Writing for Mother Jones, Inae Oh calls Mar-a-Lago face “gender-affirming care the right can celebrate”.[7]
They’re the same picture.
they’re against someone else using surgery to affirm themselves, but then they need surgery to affirm themselves
That’s how republicans do
Well, tbf demonstrating that the rules don’t apply to the in-group is part of fascism. It’s kinda funny that they’re this committed to the bit though, they look like absolute freakish ghouls now and will never be the same.
Controversial opinion maybe, but I consider most cosmetic surgery a clear sign of mental illness.
I mean, you’re probably not wrong, but also a lot of cosmetic surgery is due to toxic cultural expectations, most of it landing on women.
Not to imply that ghouls can’t be women, but it’s nice to see politicians openly supporting Fallout (season 2).
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No, it’s definitely the culture telling most women they need to look pretty. Most women don’t have someone constantly saying, “gee you’re ugly without makeup”. It’s just implied by marketing and campaigns and Hollywood glamour expectations the culture soaks up.
I don’t know what other women hear, but I get a lot of “you look tired today” when we don’t wear make up - and it was worse before it started Botox/filler. I don’t think people even know that they are pushing the culture.
Who sets those expectations? I hope it’s not your boss, personally telling you to wear makeup. I hope it’s not a husband or SO telling you you need to wear makeup to be presentable.
I’d say it’s very obvious that the flippant comments are informed by culture, and not yours or their personally set expectations. (I mean, unless you have an asshole boss that does try to set expectations, but I’m not hearing that in what was said so far)
I’m my boss and my husband prefers no makeup, so I’m in the clear there. 😁
I hear it from clients, store clerks, or other random people I interact with. It’s the new “you should smile more” for me.
Thats only because there’s a big difference between no make up and make up. Makeup also specifically hides signs of being tired. Its a matter of expectation, but one that you set yourself.
I don’t know your experience with makeup, being tired and aging… I get the sense that people (often men) cannot tell the difference between tired and aging. Makeup hides both. I don’t get the comments often from women very often. So I am assuming they are able to see the nuance (or have the tact to not say something).
Men dont actively think about it usually. There should be signs we learn of those around us that show when they are tired or any other state, but if a woman hides those signs with makeup, men will just assume makeup equals not tired and no makeup equals tired.
I guess that could be me though and not men in general.
You misread the parent comment. They only struck through half of the word cultural, to leave “cult”.
Yea that’s is still mental illness.
Wanting to fit in with people you don’t associate with is kind of weird to begin with. Risking your health and welfare so that you can look like a burn victim is a fucking bizarre bit of mental calculus that seems to indicate something is miswired.
I agree the plastic surgery stuff is just crazy. Though the unrealistic beauty standards are definitely a cultural thing. It’s only ever going to be a cultural thing under capitalism, whre what ever expectation, realistic or not, that is most ‘pretty’ will be used in advertisements. It basically guarantees saturation of unrealistic expectations.
Fallout might be looking for new actors for ghoul?
It is important to remember there can be a medical reason for cosmetic surgery (or someone might be trans), but generally speaking yeah
Surgeries for trans people aren’t cosmetic though.
Arguably certain trans surgeries (specifically facial feminization) could technically be considered cosmetic (not referring to to bottom or top surgery)
- psychiatric disorder
It’s called “body dysmorphia”
Terrible take.
You’ll end up paid more and have more confidence. Like everything, you can take it too far and have it become a problem.
I dunno about you, but having a society where self image is pay-to-win isn’t one we ought to be encouraging.
Well you do, and unless you can accelerate the human race beyond where we are is already been a thing for a long ass time.
Humans treat pretty and confident people better.
Humans treat pretty and confident people better.
Yes, though not sure how adding wealth is a good thing
Is it just me, or was every single one of these women more attractive before surgery?
Surgery? I thought these were PSAs for severe allergic reactions.
Lol, nah they did this willingly. For some reason.
It’s a specific look that screams “I have money” and in this particular social circle that matters a lot.
At least half of those are definitely terminators in rubber skin suits. They’re clearly not human.
There are more attractive prehistoric bug mummies.
Definitely. I’m just how much time has passed between these photos though, so they have definitely gotta older.
Still, in no circumstances has the surgery helped.
I was thinking the same thing.
I’d go with “less ugly”.
Those are some brave women. I would shit my pants each morning if I would see a monster like this in the mirror.
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For maga, plastic surgery is virtue signaling. Since they have the money to spend on “looking their best” they do so in the most visible way since money is morality to these fucks.
Doesn’t “have the money” for plastic surgery imply good surgery? All these people look like they got TEMU lips and Great Value noses.
You’re silly. “Good plastic surgery” is the kind of surgery that makes you more ‘pretty’ without people noticing that it’s actually fake. How are people supposed to notice that you got the money for plastic surgery if the surgery is so good that people wouldn’t notice?
How are people supposed to notice that you got the money for plastic surgery if the surgery is so good that people wouldn’t notice?
Somehow this reminds me of the Demons in Frieren the Slayer.
Even though suppressing their mana output at rest would be tactically better, because it would allow surprising enemies in fights, they can’t do that because they use the display of mana to signal status in the demon hierarchy.
Sorry if that was cringe to bring up. I’m hoping at least some readers will be familiar and find the comparison funny.
That’s the look. The point isn’t to get subtle beauty enhancement. The point is to look like you’ve had plastic surgery.
It’s tacky to me, but I’m not going to fault their culture. As long as it’s being done with full knowledge and consent, and not under outside pressure.
I think I figured out part of why the word “ghoulish” kept coming to mind.
When the face is full of filler, the eyes become sunken in.
Just like a ghoul from fallout.
And then they all have small noses. And these too will sink in.
So ghoul.
The thing is, it’s almost impossible to have that filler removed. Plus it has stretched the skin. So removing it would make their face look like how the skin looks in an area of extreme weight loss. That’s kinda whatever on people who have lost weight/had babies , It is what it is.
But This will really mess up the face. It’s not natural.
The alternative is to keep adding more filler until the face is 5x thicker and the eyes are so far sunk behind bags of filled flesh that they look black and demonic.
Plus the filler is absorbed by the body, but at different rates. So in a few years it’s gonna be irregular and lumpy. Some people go to the extreme length of having glass microbeads mixed with the filler (this is illegal in the US) but those migrate around within the tissue. Once you start this shit, it’s just a constant Death Becomes Her maintenance operation to keep it from looking worse.
Or as they say in Ab Fab, “pretty soon you’re a just visitor in your own face.”
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I consider them ghoulish for their behavior.
and we already have a microplastic crisis jfc
We need a vault for MAGA “leadership”. Just think of the fun experiments
I’m thinking of those vault 88 experiments you do with the bike, the soda machine, and the slot machine. (I’m currently playing FO4. First time. it’s mostly polished and pretty fun. )
Loomer looks more like a drag queen than most drag artists.
Recently saw a video from an ex-maga, ex-mormon woman who speaks about these people and it was specifically about this face. she said they look like that because they’re doing drag. i see it. it’s performative gender expression.
What interests me is that I’ve never once heard an actual explanation. “They’re doing drag” might be true in an analytical sense from an outside perspective. But it’s not the reason they do it.
One would assume the reason you start is because you’re encouraged to get some Botox and subtle touch-ups are a very beauty trend among women. But they all end up with very similar features and it’s always overdone. So there must be common pushes and pulls. I would just like to hear it in their own words what has led them to this.
It’s more that they do what drag typically mocks - that kind of hyper performance of feminine conformity. Classic drag has always been mocking the way that conservative women perform gender roles.
It’s supposed to look like they got work done, because it reflects their commitment to the idea that women should be always performing “woman.” Women are meant to be looked at by powerful men, and they are acceding to that understanding.
Again, I agree with you, you basically repeated and expanded on the point of the person I replied to. Like what you’re giving me is a good anthropological analysis.
But if you asked these women why/how they got to this point they would not say “well I’m just commiting to my performance of being a woman to appease the male gaze”
For one thing, most of them probably still hold agency to themselves despite the fact that it seems clear they are doing this to appease men. They would most likely have explanations for all their changes and who/what influenced them.
A terrifying probability is that these women literally get told by their spouses/others that if they don’t get these specific surgeries they won’t be able to do something. If it’s that then I would like to know who specifically tells them this and what they tell them.
I can say as someone who’s seen similar things in different groups it’s body dysmorphia. You focus on a flaw you want to fix enough to pay to get it fixed and it’s better, but if you don’t have discipline about it you’re prone to still see it. It’s similar to anorexia where they go from seeing fat that may or may not be there to seeing the torso bulge of having organs and thinking that it’s fat.
Then there’s social factors. If your social group has worries, well humans tend to echolocate reality off what those around us think and say, so you’re prone to the same worries and the same solutions.
It’s the right wing Christian Tradwife thing, isn’t it? They have to prove how very womanly they are, and how lucky their husband is to have such a womanly woman.
does she know doing drag doesn’t involve permanantly changing the look of your face, and its all makeup.
Nah, I’m not going to judge women based on their looks. Many women get facial work done, they’re not scum like these.
They’re pieces of shit inside, that’s what’s important.
Ok, no need for a high horse. It’s not their looks being judged, it’s their choices. And it’s not cosmetic surgery itself, it’s this cosmetic surgery. Mar-A-Lago Face, the shellfish allergy look.
I will continue to judge the shit out of anyone, man or woman, who gets cosmetic surgery to appeal to MAGA.
If you want to get work done to “fix” something a feature that bothers you, that’s fine. But if you get work done to secure a better job in the Trump administration, it’s open season on your swollen, ugly face
Other people having morals = being on their high horse
Your false perception says more about you than them 😬
Morality is when you defend a cult’s cosmetic surgery requirement
You’re using words and phrases and it doesnt seem like you know what they mean. Like “defend” for example.
Are you deliberately misusing them or are you just that fucking stupid?
Thank you for being this person. I’m disappointed there are so few of you itt.
Eh. I won’t judge anyone for how they look naturally because that’s something that they have no control or choice over.
But all bets are off when you make the conscious decision to specifically give yourself an “I’ve been stung by all the bees” look through a long and expensive medical process with multiple steps where you could have changed your mind. You had control over that transformation, you chose to look like that. That’s your work. And if it’s bad work, you deserve to get shit on for it.
If you get a six inch barbell put into your nose, I will also judge you for it.
Yeah one on my favorite podcasters, Jennifer Welch from the I’ve had it (IHIP) is an amazingly progressive lady but has had a little more work done than I would choose for her, but she’s great.
I looked her up. I think I can tell (or I’m inclined to see it because you said so) she’s had surgery and it’s really not so bad. I don’t think that’s anywhere near the same thing as bloating up your face to appeal to a fascist gocernment. The aesthetic is ugly and the reason for it is, too
Yeah it’s not bad, she looks good and all. I just hope she doesn’t get too much, I think people get started and don’t stop, it’s how the maga face mentioned happens, becomes a mania.
The exaggerated features almost remind me of stage makeup. Stage makeup isn’t meant to look good close up or under normal lighting, but is meant to be viewed from the back of the theater and under bright lights from above.
There may be a core of this group that was originally styling, using cosmetics, and undergoing treatment with the goal to look a certain way from a distance in photos and on video (but not necessarily up close and in person). From there, the acolytes followed the styles not realizing why they were chosen.
I’d guess shitty doctors promising things they can’t deliver is also a contributing factor. Or maybe just straight up lies about what is attractive. Those swollen lips are such a turn off.
But then again, I’m also turned off by a lot of breat implants but some guys seem to love it, so maybe my tastes aren’t the average. Though I really do wonder how much the average person goes along with what others say is attractive vs making up their own mind.
I have to wonder who decided that large breasts are supposed to be attractive. Like when did we have that conversation?
It’s not like people are out there having enlarged shoulders. So it’s not just the bigger is better.
I’m convinced that plastic surgeons just told these women that men find unrealistically large breasts more attractive simply because breast enlargement is an easy thing to do and it’s a quick win for them.
I think big boobs used to be a lot more special before widespread plastic surgery.
I think it’s really that big boobs used to be a lot more special before the obesity epidemic. It’s easy to have giant tits with >40% body fat. Even cis men can do it.
The evil manifests physically.
George Lucas tried to warn us
Man how do so mamy have horrifying lips? I’m generally against body shaming but lip and cheek surgeries make people look like straight up aliens.
I’m ok with body shaming as long as the thing being shamed is something that they intentionally did to themselves.
I’m conflicted in this: is having bad taste something one is born with?
Given the fact that all of the people with terrible taste seem to also be terrible people I’m inclined to think that it’s probably more an emergent property of the philosophy.
Body shaming is about things that cannot be controlled.
They actively chose this. Shame away.
and being so vain and trying to impress trump too.
Buccal fat removal will never not confound me!
Like you want to have gaunt cheeks? The one huge thing universally seen as unhealthy and a sign of advanced aging? And your willing to pay for it‽
While you were correct the thing people forget with these types of comparisons is that they would not continue to look like the before images even if they didn’t get any work done.
A lot of these women are well past their 20s and while I don’t think the result of their work is attractive however in the age of social media (or just regular media) it is better to look like this then to “look old” as a woman.
An old woman who looks her age can command respect, if she’s used those years to earn respect. Which is not something any of these trans-mantis women have done.
Old women who look their age can be straight up hot. Tilda Swinton comes to mind.
A lot of these women are well past their 20s and while I don’t think the result of their work is attractive however in the age of social media (or just regular media) it is better to look like this then to “look old” as a woman.
Many are in their 30s, some in their early 30s even. Most people have the first signs of aging come in their mid-late 30s, laugh lines, first few grey hairs, etc. It depends on the individual but ultimately most people will have minimal visual signs of age in their 30s. This isn’t trying to hide aging, this is something else entirely
People are getting “preventive Botox” in their 20s now…
Who are the freaks that are reinforcing this shit?
Is it still body shaming them when you’re shaming them for choices they made?
