• GraniteM@lemmy.world
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    I once saw a Mom at an information desk at an art museum take her fussy, fidgeting toddler, gently lay him down on the ground, and put her foot on him, Captain Morgan style:

    Kid didn’t cry or try to escape. Thoroughly impressive. Might plant the seed to awaken something in the kid when he hits puberty, though.

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    Seems I’m in a rare group where I think leashing kids is fine but also think that joking about it is fine. ¯\(ツ)

    Edit: fixed smiley (maybe?)

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      I’m in the same group. My kid is pretty young (just turning into a toddler) but I could see possibly needing to leash his ass in the future. I also would laugh my ass off if someone asked me in public if he was a stray or made some other joke about it.

      Can’t take life too seriously but I get people might feel like the joke is insensitive. I suppose I also have a horrible sense of humor and what I find funny might be actually offensive to others at times so … ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      As a parent who had one on a leash. It’s fine. I thought it was funny. My life is a joke anyways.

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      Even without any particular care needs or neuro-differences, a lot of kids can sometimes be a danger to themselves when out in public. Our public spaces are not designed to mitigate this, and it tends to happen at a stage when their ability to understand and obey verbal instructions is low (or at least slow), and physically controlling them is extremely unergonomic for the adult (too heavy to constantly pick up, too short to constantly hold their hands).

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    I believe that as long as the best behaved dog is required to be leashed in public, children under 5 should be required to be leashed as well, until the worst behaved toddler is demonstrably better behaved than the best behaved dog.

    Leashing a kid doesn’t hurt them, and people who have a problem with it are generally real assholes…

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      That’s pretty extreme, I think it’s the parent’s responsibility to make sure the kid isn’t a nuisance to others, but whether they require a leash to achieve that is their business (for what it’s worth, I also think a well behaved dog that isn’t causing any troubles shouldn’t require the leash). We tend to either remove ourselves from the situation if the little goblin starts making a fuss, or otherwise use carrying options (on the shoulders, in a back carrier, or, less and less so, in a buggy).

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        I mean, that’s cool. But most parents, especially parents of young children, will quite happily ignore their kids shitty behavior, either because they’re so numb to it that it doesn’t register or because they think there isn’t anything wrong with “kids being kids” in an environment not meant for kids.

        I’d be ok with instead of leash laws just make whatever adult is currently responsible for a child actually responsible for their behavior, to the point that the adult is held criminally and/or civilly liable for the child’s behavior. Like if we actually issued citations and/or arrests for disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace to adults who let their terrorist toddlers run wild in public places.

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    Jokes at the expense of neurodivergent/disabled kids are hilarious!!! Hundreds of upvotes for you!!! Ruining that already struggling parents day gets all the internet points!!!

    Elopement. Look it up you fuckwits.

    This place was supposed to be better than Reddit, but this is Truth Social level posting.

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      The meme is not your enemy. You seem to be having a hard day. Many of us are. I hope it gets better.

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      Yeah, I hate people that make these kind of jokes.

      A little boy in my son’s class was nonverbal autistic and an eloper. He ended up sneaking out, getting into the unlocked apartment pool, and drowning a few days after school ended this summer.

      I feel so bad for his parents. They were always so exhausted trying to keep him safe because he was a little Houdini.

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    Toddlers can cover the distance from the sidewalk to under a car tire faster than you can blink. Ill never judge a parent for having them on a leash.

    The muzzle is a bit much though.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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    Being on a kid leash saved my life. I don’t remember this first hand, but my parents often tell about the time they took me to a ball game or something and I fell through the bleachers which was over 30 feet high. The leash prevented me from splattering on the ground.

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      My kids were leashed in public spaces because we knew they’d run off and they’re too young to give helpful information to find us.

      Security guards thanked us because dealing with scared kids was one of the worst part of their jobs.

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        I had one who would strip and run. I wrote my cell number across the back of their shoulders with Sharpie when we were on vacation and letting them play in the park.

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          I did not knew what was the name of a sharpie in english until now and i got concerned until i searched (sharpie)

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          Is that real? Someone tried to tell me their kids do that and I had hard time believing that.

          Is it a phase during development for some or what?

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            Oh yes, a brief phase for mine at least. Soon after she learned to walk, which in her case was walking and running all in one day. An over-exuberance of that new freedom and power. Feeling the rush of air on her wings, as it were. She would usually leave her diaper on, unless it was moist and heavy enough to slow her down. Of course the phase coincided with our being on a pre-planned trip, constantly in public situations where I didn’t know the territory. At least we spoke the language!

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        I’ve only got one, but he has successfully made it to his teenage years because he was a leashed toddler. The amount of times I caught him when his face was two inches from concrete I can only count on one hand, but that’s enough.

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          I think this is one of the most overlooked benefits of harnesses. Just being able to save them from a faceplant when they’re still really practicing being upright is a huge relief, and gives them more confidence too, because they know you’ll be there to catch them if they fall.

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        No, that’s what child muzzles are for. They only says that they were leashed, NOT that they were muzzled.

        You probably think you’re just telling a joke but you are not funny. Children ARE capable of biting, and sometimes they DO. Don’t fuck around with human bites.

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        … Oh.

        I was a leash kid too ._.

        My parents only used it on one occasion: A camping trip. They tell me they felt bad and never used it again. But the fact remains. I was on a leash once and now I’m a furry. We have correlation.

        Causation is yet to be proven, but my hypothesis is that leashes and furry community participation are both potential results of some set of underlying personality traits that may or may not manifest both or either of these outcomes. Comorbidities that happen to align.

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            Preferable to the alternative where parents leash their kids out of negligence because they can’t be bothered to actually supervise them…

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              Negligent parents don’t bother with a leash. Theirs is the kid running around seeking attention from others while they sit and drink.

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          Can I ask, what animals do you like to dress as, and bang, as a furry? Just out of curiosity if you don’t mind sharing.

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            I am asexual and do not enjoy sexual contact in general.

            The only animals i have had any experience with are homo sapiens, and based on that experience I have concluded it is not for me. It turns out actual biological bodies are icky. I would rather not have one, let alone have to interact with someone else’s.

            My “fursona” is a synthetic construct that used to be a bipedal canine with wings. Keeping those features from the character’s distant fully biological past was merely aesthetic preference. I’ve felt very comfortable leaning into an “it/thing” identity.

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          Only once? I guess that’s further confirmation that childhood trauma runs deep.

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    I will never look down on a parent with a leashed kid. Rather a safe kid on a leash than a dead kid in the streets.

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      I’ll often look down on a kid themselves, but only because it is impossible to regard a being who is less tall than me without looking down u.u

      [explaining the joke]

      Subverting expectation of disrespect by indicating purely physical and logistical reasons which contain no value judgement of another person and therefore no commentary upon the concept of respect

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    When you’re walking in a public place overrun with people, no separation between road and sidewalk, multiple other hazards and a toddler who only moves by running full speed, I do not see a problem with putting a harness and lead on the kid. Parents try their best to pay attention at all times, but when you’re this tired, it’s good to have the insurance. If you want to judge someone’s parenting, judge the ones who ignore their kids so they can spend more time on their phones

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    When my son was a toddler, I had an older aunt who had no children, but plenty of opinions on how they should be raised. We were visiting one time, and planned a visit to the zoo, and she just insisted that we had to get a leash for him, or he was so going to get away from us, and end up in an animal pen, and get eaten, presumably.

    I refused her many orders to get a leash (I didn’t even know where to find one, this was before Amazon), and finally just flat out told her that there would be no leash, we would just have to do our jobs as parents and adults, and actually pay attention to him.

    And he only got into animal pens a few times. He hardly got gnawed on at all. He was fine.

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    I know a person whose kid has ADHD and was constantly running carelessly into random directions, failing to immediately react to their mother shouting them to stop. There was so much spontaneous and uncontrolled running here and there that the only option seemed to be to constantly hold their hand.

    Eventually the kid’s mother came to the conclusion that the kid will have more freedom if she’s kept on a leash instead of having to hold hands. The time they had to use the leash didn’t end up being many months, either. In the case of that family it was definitely a choice that increased the psychological well-being of the child and supported their development of motor skills.

    You can never know what the reasons are, so go careful with judging!

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      Yeah, exactly this. Some kids are just different and it really isn’t a fault in the parenting that the child is likely to put themselves in a dangerous situation.

      Caring for a kid like that is plenty exhausting enough without the snide remarks of fully grown adults that like to entertain themselves at the child’s expense. The kid I cared for didn’t have a harness but in retrospect that would have been pretty damn handy.

      Interestingly, children are way more understanding than most adults.

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    Oh so it’s okay when the KIDS are on a leash, but when I’m wearing one, I’m a “freak” and I’m “being asked to leave the costco”. Damn double standards… I could run into traffic TOO you know!

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      Well, you’re supposed to be wearing more than just the leash. Rookie mistake

      And yeah, honestly I’m pretty sure my wife wishes she could get away with keeping me leashed in public. I get distracted and she worries I’ll walk into traffic

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      It wasn’t the leash, it was that all you were wearing was the leash… and also the not being potty trained the "marking* of stuff.