The argument the mod writes is 👌

Update : there’s a new one that appears but, I’ve checked, that’s the same mod as the others

Update 2 : got contacted by the mod, overall sweet guy/gal we agree to disagree and keep the ban up, who said that Lemmy cannot be civil

  • SourGumGum@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    Single-Board Computer Stuff@discuss.online, Retrofuture Things@lemmy.today, Space News@lemmy.today don’t sound like AI comms to me?

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    LCARS was a data access and retrieval system capable of doing calculations and simulations. It was not, I REPEAT, was not “artificial intelligence”. It did not try to act or sound sentient, it simply responded to commands and ran programs.

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      Though it could create intelligence. “Computer, make an opponent that can be better than data”. Ok, guess it’s time to make a sentient hologram then.

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      TOS had the m5, which went rogue and started attacking and blowing up other starships, and lower decks had the Texas class, which went rogue and started attacking other starships

    • VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world
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      There is at least one instance where it was written as sapient in TNG. That was mostly for a joke, though. Specifically, there was a running gag in early TNG with Data getting a bit too into defining things and someone (usually Picard) would interrupt him with something along the lines of, “Thank you, Data, we get it.” In one scene, Data is alone and only talking to the computer, which gives the line there.

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      After Tesseract and now this, it raises a question. Do people that call themselves conservatives have to always be contrarians?

      Literally any topic. There were issues that one would think everyone would agree on and they still surprise you.

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        Conservative brains typically have larger amygdalas, which are responsible for anger and fear responses. So yes, their brains reward them when they get angry, so they seek more occasions to get angry.

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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      Imagine if the computer on star trek operated the way it does in every episode where the computer is malfunctioning. That’s how real-world “AI” works. You ask to go to the bridge and it keeps sending your ass to engineering and ten forward.

      Also: They didn’t even mention Data who is more AI than even the ship’s computer!

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      11 hours ago

      the true AI are usually the holograms, or a robotic race but it seems limited. but they are pretty much not as extensively integrated like the Andromeda series, the ship has an AI that is pretty integrated into all the ships systems(can appear as a hologram or as an android, or upload into multiple robots at once) and perform most of the task the crew requires.

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    14 hours ago

    These people understand Star Trek is fictional, often takes place on quasi-military vessels, and depicts a society that has some significant differences from our own, right?

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        A friend has compared generative AI to the electric monks from Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective agency.

        I’ve found that the AI chatbots feel a lot like the Genunine People Peronalities from Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.

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            From Dirk Gently

            The Electric Monk was a labour-saving device, like a dishwasher or a video recorder. Dishwashers washed tedious dishes for you, thus saving you the bother of washing them yourself, video recorders watched tedious television for you, thus saving you the bother of looking at it yourself; Electric Monks believed things for you, thus saving you what was becoming an increasingly onerous task, that of believing all the things the world expected you to believe.

            In the book, an alien ship crashed on earth, the crew asked an electric monk if their ship was repaired. The monk responded that it believed it was, the aliens tried to take off, and then the ship exploded because it wasn’t actually repaired.

            In Hitchhiker’s Guide, Genuine People Personalities were AIs that tended to be obnoxiously cheerful, neurotic, or hyperactive. Doors with a GPP would sigh with pleasure when they opened and loudly ask if they did a good job if someone told them to open quietly, for example.

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      But let’s for a moment ignore that it is fictional. Star Trek’s economical system is communism, I wonder if they also embrace it?

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    Obviously I’m not enough of an AI hater cause I ain’t been banned from shit.

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    It happens when you post here, you don’t even have to interact with their community. Instead they come here, by their own volition, to be angry about us not liking AI and they then decide to ban every name they come across. This community existing is insult enough for them. Thankfully they self-isolate for the most part.

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      16 hours ago

      are you saying people here may have been banned by communities without even knowing? fascinating :o I wouldn’t even know how to check that

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        I was banned from a whole bunch of AI slop communities for ‘persistent trolling’ … but I’d never posted to any of them, so … yes. They ban you preemptively.

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          I got curious and just looked up my profile in the ban log and it seems I am banned as well in a handful of random (same mod in all of them I assume) dbozer communities without having posted in any of them, with the reason given being “Troll account” (no mention of AI).

          So yup, just a power mad mod being cultish about their AI-slop, who probably just banned anybody who posts in here.

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            I’d agree but it’s pretty fucking gross to ban people that have never even visited your community.

            I legitimately think anyone here would deserve a ban if they went over there and said shit. We clearly don’t belong but we’re here minding our own business.

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              Yeah, the preemptive nature of the ban shows some extreme fragility. It would be like the mods of this channel going to the slop celebration channels and banning anybody who posted there.

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        I found out that I was banned from a handful of communities. I was banned for 3 months or something, but didn’t even see that I was banned until after about 6 months had passed. I guess it didn’t impact me at all. The mods be trippin’.

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      There’s at least two communities in there that I have interact with. I don’t think this mod is that petty. However there’s some « stable_Something » that ban me for being here. Meh 🤷‍♀️

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      17 hours ago

      Even if I say that I love AI and unquestioningly accept whatever today’s horseshit is?

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      The censoring is also kinda readable underneath anyway, so it accomplished nothing even if the modlog wasn’t public.