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Sen. Ruben Gallego, an Arizona Democrat, said he will introduce a resolution to block Donald Trump from invading Greenland, a self-governing Danish territory.
Concerns about U.S. action against Greenland have grown on the heels of the attack on Venezuela, which led to the capture of leader Nicolas Maduro.
“Everybody wants us to have a bigger presence in Greenland to combat the Russian/Chinese Arctic influence,” Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said.
“Everybody wants us to have a bigger presence in Greenland to combat the Russian/Chinese Arctic influence,” Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said.
If only we had some kind of alliance with Greenland/Denmark and perhaps other countries in the North Atlantic. Maybe we could, like, set up a military base in another country to protect those mutual interests? I know it sounds crazy because we don’t do any of that currently, but maybe that would be a better option.
But how would you steal all the wealth from Greenland for your corrupt corporate overlords/your insider trading?
Who, me? Oh, I wouldn’t. That’s probably why I’m not qualified to be POTUS.
POTUS
Paedophile Of The United States.Not qualified for that either
Yes in the North Atlantic. It’s like we could have some kind of Treaty. Maybe we could form some kind of Organization. Maybe someone could make Trump think he came up with this idea all by himself. FIFA could give him a trophy for it.
They also act like US Corporations wouldn’t get a really good deal if they wanted to purchase the rights to extract some of the mineral wealth of Greenland to extract.
He already isn’t supposed to be able to do this without Congressional approval. But if he does it will be without consequences regardless.
Yeah I don’t get it, they are trying to stop him with laws after he ignored laws and there was no consequences.
How about you apply some of the existing laws and do those consequences
That’s not true. There have been numerous operations in other countries that were not given approval by Congress. Not saying it’s right but there is definitely precedent for it.
Remember when the president had to go to Congress and ask them for a declaration of war rather than it being Congress taking action to stop the president from declaring unilateral war by himself? You know, like after Pearl Harbor. Good times.
How about another one that bans him from kidnapping foreign and domestic people without the agreement of Congress and put a heavy toll on it if violated like you get to not be president anymore and go to jail until anyone you jailed is free. You stay in jail if its not possible to free for example a person who might have accidentally died.
We already have laws to stop that, he just doesn’t care
Well, he doesn’t care because nobody else does apparently.
Trump is no business man but he is a genius at deflecting. It seems Epstein file related comments are almost non-existent lately. The files haven’t been released as ordered by law, and the deadline to release them has been passed. Crickets…
Lindsey Graham should do the world a favor and end his own miserable, self-loathing life
Imagine how much better the world would be if people like him could just admit they’re a gay man.
“Everybody wants us to have a bigger presence in Greenland to combat the Russian/Chinese Arctic influence,” Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said.
For the kids in the audience, Lady G ran for President in 2015 (before trump rode the escalator to hell) and for his campaign announcement speech he basically filled a good half hour with flag-waving demands to attack Iran immediately. Like, that was the most important issue of his campaign. Which- Iran was not especially in the news for anything at the time, even.
Sort of like when the Sandwich Artist comes out from behind the counter to talk about the weather and then goes on a thirty minute rant about the little people living in his teeth.
A.k.a. Graham is a complete fucking tool who should never be acknowledged, much less quoted.
Does something like this even make sense? He didn’t have the right to invade Venezuela, but he did anyway. What a bill going to do to stop him?
The war powers act gives the president the authority to invade any country on earth, he only needs congressional approval for operations lasting longer than 30 days. Congress also gave the president blanket authorization to invade any country he thinks might be harboring terrorists, following 9/11, with this absurd, fascist decision to grant the executive dictatatorial powers passing the Senate 98-0 and the House 420-1 (and with nearly 90% of Americans supporting Bush at this time). Trump’s actions in Venezuela therefore, while a brazen violation of international law, are fully within US law. It’s virtually impossible for a president to actually violate US law through military actions abroad.
Any attempts to rein in these ridiculous laws should be fully supported and are badly needed. Even if Trump ignores them, it can then be used to discredit him and prove that he is acting against the will of the people.
God damn. It’s worse than I thought. Plus with the Supreme Court declaring all actions taken as president to be legal, he can do anything he wants now, whether legal or not.
This is why I keep telling people that Trump is not an anomaly and is not new. I think a lot of people on here must be too young to remember the Bush era.
The line from the Star Wars prequels of, "So this is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause" captures how it felt and was clearly about Bush’s policies. If Trump is worse than Bush, it’s only because he’s standing on the shoulders of fascist giants. And tbh I still regard Bush as the more dangerous of the two because he was able to command such overwhelming support, there was zero opposition in government anywhere, at all. He could ride his bike with no handlebars.
I was yelling about it pretty loud but I was also 15 so like… no one really cared.
It gets votes on record on who thinks it’s okay if Trump wants to invade Greenland.
I feel there’s a nonzero chance that Trump might just go all out if a third impeachment looks like it will succeed.
Like, what if Trump decides to build up forces around Western Europe, and then launches bombs to flatten Copenhagen just before his removal? And then when he’s out, he tells the Dems that the fallout is their problem now.
I doubt an impeachment would ever result in his removal. If anything, I could see a “wartime president” do unconstitutional things, such as preventing elections and such.
Let’s make a rule to control the guy known for not following any rules!
The secret is writing the rules on some bullets. Then find a way to let him keep the rules in his head, despite dementia
Give conservatives power and the next thing you know we’re submitting bills to prevent the conservative president from invading ally nations.
The fact that the Republican party will still exist after this is a testament to how sad this nation has become.
You’re living through a grand moment. We don’t know how this story will be told, but probably as the fall of an imperialist empire led by a population of spectacle dazzled individuals who believe in the authority of concepts like The Market. A society too obsessed with their own freedom from to actually obtain any freedom to. A society with such little humility, American Exceptionalism can be seen touted as the cultural norm despite clear lack of substantive exceptionalism (mind having the most war ships). When all of this becomes immediately obvious to the general public, you might say we’re in an age of post-enlightenment. I wonder what we’ll find on the other side of that evolution.
Dumbest thing I’ve heard of. Resolution to keep the idiot from doing something he’s not allowed to do anyway. Like making a law to make crime illegal.
If committing the action literally described as a war crime in the ucmj isn’t enough to get any action going, why would this do it? I appreciate the senator’s words, but at this point we’re done. Cooked. Finished.
Jesus Christ our government is so fucking stupid. The headline on this article gave me an instant migraine 🙄 what a country
I wouldn’t put much past the current American administration. I haven’t been able to shake this impression that we might really be looking a the telegraphing of an invasion. From what we know and have seen, the administration is very much itching to apply the fullest extent of its powers. It’s defined by unprecedented and extraordinary use of extralegal action and complete disregard for how it might be seen by the world at large.
They said for years that Russia wouldn’t move on Ukraine, and then green men marched in and took over Crimea. It’s no secret how much America is becoming increasingly like Russia in every way. US already has significant military presence in Greenland — a green men play would be really easy. And Greenland also has a surprising number of politicians who openly say that they prefer the security offered by Trump’s America over Denmark, even as they declare that they want independence (experts argue that independence might make them even more vulnerable to takeover right now). It’s easy to assume that at least some Greenland doors would open up to an American green man advance.
Also, as far as consequences for taking over Greenland, we seem to be primarily looking at a breakup of NATO — something that is also on this US administration’s longstanding wish list. Experts don’t seem to think it’s ultimately likely to result in an actual war so much as make it crystal clear that the old rules no longer apply, and that the US isn’t a friend (the Article 5 debate is shaky, especially against the prospect of actually going to war against America, and especially while NATO is also dealing with the Russian war in Ukraine). On paper it kind of reads like a win-win-win situation for the current brazen, imperialist, and isolationist American kleptocracy.
I’d say we at least need to take this stuff seriously.
You’ve put the cart before the horse… the USA isn’t “becoming increasingly like Russia in every way”.
Russia is becoming increasingly like the USA in every way
Odd statement to cut and flip around out of all of that text. Reminds me a lot of ML.
It stuck out to me, I’ve been reading how the USA and friends “aided” Russia in the 90s, after WWII, and after WWI, pouring billions into it to keep the money flowing, every drop for capitalism.
We like to blame them for so many things, frankly to increase our (USA and friends) own military spending and much more.
I can only think ML means milliliter tell me the secret
No secret, ML is Marxist-Leninist. They tend to have a similar focus and way of framing things as what I’m picking up from you.
Did they speak English like me, too? Were they talking about the USA and Russia, like me, too?
THE SIMILARITY IS UNCANNY you are the world’s greatest detective how did you know? Can’t get one past you!
This feels like one of those American things that takes forever, is ineffective, and ultimately just ignored by Trump.
It scares me that people are starting to take this seriously, because that just might embolden those idiots. This is not on the same level as Invading Yet Another Latin American Country. Stop treating it as such.
My apologies to all Latin American countries, I hope you understand what I mean. Hell, the USA couldn’t even invade most Latin American countries anymore as it used to do.
