Knowledge of sports statistics is a socially acceptable autistic hyper fixation.
Ever talked to one of these people? You mention a baseball player and they can tell you what their batting average was for each year of their decade long career, or they can tell you where every NFL player went to college; meanwhile I have trouble remembering my own phone number.
I have a friend who’s sure I’m on the spectrum, and points at things I talk about as my current hyperfixation. Meanwhile I’m talking imprecisely forgetting detail.
If I’m on the spectrum, I suck at fixating on stuff
Keep in mind there’s a strong correlation between ASD and ADHD. So that could just be the ADHD side of things.
My father had a workbench drawer marked “Pieces of Wire Too Short to Use.”
Mind you, he was an electrician.
Those are for special occasions, like when you’re doing electrical work in someone’s house who you don’t like much and feel like splicing 10 short wires together instead of using a long one.
He also had a drawer labeled “Plastic Shark” that contained one of my old toy sharks.
Hahah that is so wholesome.
Maybe he was an electrician, but he definitely didn’t spend much time with circuit boards.
I had to clean out my uncle’s house when he passed away suddenly. Among many other things, this man had a box full of gum wrappers perfectly folded into little triangles. But don’t worry, I’ve been assured he wasn’t autistic, he was just a little antisocial and odd.
My grandfather was different, he said “okay” for my diagnosis, read up on it, and when he read that Albert Einstein was suspected to have autism, he thought he had a bloodline of future scientists. Also he had a great trouble with saying “it’s enough work for today”, and was stubborn enough to work on something 18 hours if it meant it could be done under one day.
The “enough work” problem is the story of my childhood… I have way too many memories of sitting in the garage, or on the driveway, either freezing to death or being eaten alive by mosquitoes, at 2:30 a.m. while trying to hold a light absolutely still in just the right position…
“Puts some hair on your chest”
Me chest hairless at 40. What a lie.
Everybody knows that you need to chew some black root for that.
To be fair, I often stay up too late trying to find some bugs in my OpenGL pipeline, so I likely inherited a lot from him.
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Those aren’t any of what you just said though. I have a drawer of wires everything you mentioned, outside of VGA because why? But I do not save or sort random electric wires.
Autism has always been here. But instead of labeling someone as autistic and trying to improve understanding and communication, people were like, “That’s a weird dude.”
Or worse yet, they were interned on an institution all their lives or were killed by police during a misunderstanding.
Pretty sure the first dude to collect dead bugs and put them on corkboards with pins probably was on the spectrum. Also geologists. I can’t think of any other reason a person would be super into rocks.
Jesus Christ Marie, they’re not rocks. They’re minerals!!
If you didn’t have to mine them out of something and just picked them off the ground, they are pickerals (= rocks).
Rocks are something a whore does for money.
I was about to write two paragraphs about how awesome minerals are and then reflected on the thought that I may be on the spectrum.
After reading these comments, I have concluded that everyone’s grandpa is autistic.
As someone with two autistic boys people really be stretching on their undiagnosed definitions of autism.
You know how neurodivergence is one category with a lot of different and diverse conditions and spectrums. Neurotypical is that as well. Not all neurotypical people are alike, there’s diversity as well.
I mean, I think the count of neurodiverse people on lemmy is likely very high (for various reasons). And since it’s highly genetically correlated, likely also the grandparents.
Also if we could diagnose the entire world we would find many people who would fall on the high-functioning side of the spectrum. Many people just go undiagnosed for their entire lives. I bet autism is way more common than the science tells us today.
Certainly, and as I (suspect) to have AuDHD (ADHD diagnosed).
This combination is really difficult to see/diagnose, as these conditions somewhat cancel each other out. It took me a very hyperfocused deep-dive into all kinds of papers, to slowly come to that conclusion, that ADHD doesn’t explain my behavior alone. AFAIK this is in some regard an active research-area (how correlated are these conditions, are they even the same underlying condition?).
(I think) few psychiatrists really have a deep insight into that (and thus are accurately diagnosing these).
Absolutely. Anecdotally, both my husband and I received our diagnosis after we had our son evaluated.
What are the reasons for all us neurodivergent people coming on here?
I would say foremost: strong opinions and idealism (very much correlated to ASD and ADHD) E.g. about the fucked up state of centralized social media controlled by right-wing billionaires.
Always when I talk to other people I don’t suspect to be neurodivergent, they just don’t really care about it, convenience is the driving factor.
Interesting. As someone diagnosed with ADHD it tracks.
I wonder if this is how ended up this way. I grew up with my two brothers and about 10-12 really close mates. But none of them share my views and just subscribe to the culture war bs and I often wondered what made me this way as to me I always did have empathy and anti establishment views.
my grandpa has a collection of those glass caps they use on power towers
after searching for an image the correct term is “glass insulator for power lines” but I think “glass cap for power tower” sounds funner lol
I have a collection of those silica gel packets I find at clothing stores and supermarkets
“Silica gel packets?”
Ohhhh, you mean the DO NOT EAT bags!
Oooh, like shoe flavor packets?
DO NOT EAT
You’re not my supervisor!
I once dragged one of those ceramic powerline insulators across two international borders because I found it lying around and liked how it looked. It took up the majority of the space in my backpack, so I had to buy a second backpack and carry it on the front of my chest lol. Apparently the reason they have that odd shape is so that when it’s raining, water can’t make a continuous trickle between the wire and the pylon
Apparently the reason they have that odd shape is so that when it’s raining, water can’t make a continuous trickle between the wire and the pylon
That and also to increase the distance any charge has to travel across the surface of the insulator.
I think collecting those was a bit of a thing in the 60s and 70s, I’ve run across multiple older folks who did. Pretty sure it eventually crossed with the “turn random shit into lamps” fad in the 70s because that seems to have become a fairly popular thing to do with them.
that’s interesting, had no idea there was a “turn shit into lamps” trend, that’s so funny. Thanks for sharing!
The dad of a friend of mine does collect those, and ceramic ones. As an employee of the city, he got permission to open a local museum of insulators in a bulding owned by the city.
I love those things
…where does he keep them? Make sure you wash your hands after touching them!
Wait are they lead? My grandparents have some on the window sill
Nope I’m pretty sure they are glass/ceramic, but they have a nice flared end so maybe they have other uses
Those packets are real nice sprinkled on bread rolls btw, also great in most kinds of stir fry / pan fry.
You should know if you have any of those real puffy pink ones, they’re particularly good.
My grandpa was very smart but seemingly clueless about the world. A lot of people said that he was a 12 year old in an adult body
He couldn’t of possibly been Autistic…
One way I look at historic figures for who might and might not been a high functioning autistic individual is to look at how well they may have functioned socially vs. How technical they were.
Take William Bligh for example. He was the captain of the Bounty when the famous mutiny happened. Contrary to popular belief, he wasn’t some tyrannical captain who was so monstrous that his crew were pushed beyond human dignity. He actually was milder than most captains and had unusual methods of keeping his crew in shape. For example he ordered his crew to dance on a daily basis. Why? Because for prolonged periods of time there was actually minimal activity needed on the ship, so many sailors would be lazy and get out of shape. By having them dance he was trying to keep them in shape to do their jobs when needed.
It worked and it was practical, but it made everyone hate him. He was a highly socially inept man and the mutiny on the bounty was NOT the only mutiny or rebellion he had to deal with.
But… as a sailor he was brilliant. He really did manage to keep his men healthier than normal, and as a navigator he was probably one of the best to have ever lived. No joke. When the crew set him adrift on a raft with the few loyal members with him. He navigated across the open pacific without a map and nonexistent tools, working only by memory and the stars that he had memorized and managed to make a trek of thousands of kilometers to the nearest safe port.
That kind of obsession on detail is not something that comes without being somewhat on the spectrum.
It was a longboat, not a raft, and he had a sextant and almanac so he could look up rise and set times for stars. He lacked charts.
It was a remarkable feat
When I think of Autistic people from history I think of Buster Keaton. Buster Keaton was known for his stone cold appearance and there is a lot of evidence that he was Autistic. I also wonder if some of the “witches” in the witch trails were actually just Autistic women.
There are also a plenty of other “might be Autistic” historical figures but it is rather hard to actually make any conclusions especially when you start going back centuries. Everyone from Ada Lovelace to Leonardo da Vinci to Alan Turning. I honesty think there could be a link between Autism and major breakthroughs.
One person I have never really been sure about is Hildegard of Bingen. There isn’t a lot to go one but she seemed very dedicated to a few things so maybe.
There’s also a hypothesis I’ve seen floating around that Celtic bards and Nordic Skalds may have had higher rates of autism. Basically the idea is that the requirements for memorizing, maintenance, and application of laws which they kept would be easier for folks with autism.
Yes, yes, autism is a super power and only autistic people deserve voting rights or can be competent and motivated, calm down, Elons.
That is your reaction to a group of marginalised people realising that a niche has always existed for them?
You need to reexamine your life choices.
Sure bro, that’s what happening, and there isn’t a very real autism supremacist movement
So anything that tries to level the playing field means there’s a “movement” that seeks to take everything from white men, that about right?
Grow the fuck up and accept responsibility for your own mistakes. There isn’t some great conspiracy to keep you down, you’re doing that all on your own.
high functioning autistic
I don’t want to seam pedantic. Levels in autism is profoundly discriminatory.
Ok, but it is no secret that there are people with autism that have severe difficulties with basically every task, while there are autistic people who can live their lives with manageable symptoms, and then there are autistic people who have talents neurotypical people can only dream of. I would not call them levels, but there must be a system to discern between those groups, and if it isn’t one that is quick and easy, it will probably not be used by the large majority of people. I know that Asperger’s is not ok anymore to use, but every other system will have to discern the 3 different groups, or am I mistaken?
You are correct. It’s the ol Euphemism Treadmill again. And again and again and again.
*couldn’t have
*couldn’t’ve
real conversation:
“back when I was a kid autism didn’t exist like you guys!”
“Ma… you’re autistic…”Is it Autism or just well organized?
One doesn’t require the other, but let’s be honest they often travel in the same car
If you’re well organized your autistic, if not, you are ADHD. If you fall in the middle, you are both.
I know I’m old man shouting at clouds but it seems like social media is completely focused on classifying. It seems silly. It’s like Meyers Briggs personality tests.
The big problem with ADHD is that every human will experience the symptoms at some point in life.
Every ADHD meme is relatable to pretty much everyone, but they don’t understand what it is for those symptoms to basically be your whole existence.
The adhd gives you superpowers memes always makes me want to strangle someone.
Yeah it gives me superpowers like once every few months where for a day or 5 I get a ridiculous amount of work done. The rest of my existence is miserable and I hate myself for not just my lack of work productivity but also how hard it is to get myself to exercise, brush teeth, or just get out of bed. And not a single healthy routine sticks. Only the unhealthy ones. Why is it so easy to pick up smoking again but so hard to do anything that’s good for me?
Smoking gives you a sense of doing something while doing nothing. And it’s great. I’ve read that 90% of schizophrenics smoke.
Yeah, I hate how great it is…
Have you tried meds (stims specifically) ? That significantly increased my productive hyperfocus phases.
Methylphenidate doesn’t help a whole lot, I still have little control over what I hyperfocus on. It’s better then nothing though.
I should try Elvanse (Vyanse), maybe that’s more useful. Need to actually get it prescribed first though.
I mean for me both works (Ritalin just is a lot shorter and more up and downs, generally less effective).
Though, I’m indeed prescribed Elvanse it’s basically the hyperfocus drug IME (YMMV).
I’m really productive with it (I’m a passionate programmer, which probably helps), but sometimes well a little bit too productive (burning through complex problems for > 10 hours the day, sometimes completely ignoring other stuff I should be doing as well, and am somewhat exhausted after somehow escaping that hyperfocus, or finishing the issue). As I got “smarter” through it and like a learn a lot, I’ll just accept this as a net-positive effect, I have to deal with.
But I have more control over what I’m hyperfocusing at (as I’m less likely bored and distacted), and try to “focus” this on issues that deserve this hyperfocus.
It is beyond exhausting. Nobody takes my serious neurological disorder seriously. I’m nearly thirty and only now I’m starting to get the medical help I would have needed 20, 25 years ago. To think what could have been breaks my heart.
I got diagnosed last year. I’m 41. My entire life would have been very different. In fact, I believe I was diagnosed as a child but my mom never did anything about it or told me.
Anyway, I can tell that even my wife of ten years thinks I’m exaggerating or trying to make excuses.
For me I was actually diagnosed with just dyspraxia as a child and it was considered severe enough to have some support needs, recently my mum told me that the educational psychologist said I probably had symptoms of both autism and ADHD but I was never put in front of a psychiatrist who could diagnose that stuff.
Of course this was also back when the DSM had the mutually exclusive diagnostic criteria so who knows what they would have labelled me with in the end. I think the apparently ADHD symptoms bother me more and seem more treatable so I’ve gone in for a referral for that at least. Only 6 months to go 🙃
My favorite thing and I’ve mentioned before, ADHD is like peeing, we all pee, but when it hurts to pee or you’re peeing 50 times a day or it’s causing negative impact in your life, you go see a doctor
Can confirm. Everything on top of my desk has a specific spot and orientation but anything additional, like important papers placed onto it will disappear from the physical nature of reality and my memory in a very short yet unknown amount of time
I am certified both. Also this is why the term neurodiversity is so much better. Overlap is quite common.
what do you think of the term AuDHD for Au(tism) + (A)DHD
That’s the term the community uses
My joke in my household is that no clean flat surfaces can exist.
My medicated ADHD ass is still plenty messy, but my non-medicated wife will put any item down in any place when she’s done with it or it’s in her way. Then it disappears from existence for an hour or a month or so. Unless it’s outside or in a room we don’t use daily… then the possible range expands a lot.
And yet, despite people saying what you say, I still struggle far more than neurotypical people and they can’t understand why
I am diagnosed with both, and do relate to social media posts regarding the combination of both
Oh sure it can be a problem. My issue is with the endless videos that do nothing but categorize and diagnose.
It’s like what if there were endless videos about, “10 signs you are bad at math.”
Could be both.
This is how you can spot a non-autistic. For autistics, it’s not just about having stuffs organized. It has a purpose and has a sense.
I can see organized things from the NT point of view. But, it’s not organized for me at all. The details don’t match what would be organized for me. Just as an example.
With autism in general, it’s rarely about what it is visible to the NTs. It’s about the invisible. Ask the autistic why and validate it. The person will be happy to explain why.
In undergrad I once went back to my dorm room and eagerly showed my roommate the video of Grace Hopper illustrating how long lengths of time are (https://youtu.be/9eyFDBPk4Yw). A little while later, he was talking about this scene and how he likes the writing, because engineers are often much more excited by something seemingly mundane, such as the various lengths of wire needed for a project, than “this is my spaceship.”
Anyway, I tell him, completely seriously and with no sense of irony, “yeah, but why would anyone care about lengths of wire?”
He yelled back, “You literally came in here to show me a video about lengths of wire.”
I’ve always loved the “lengths of wire” line. As a kid I used to check out lots of outdated library books about building a home science lab, and they consistently called a short piece of wire a “length” of wire. I don’t think I ever saw that term in any other context until Futurama, so it really brought back my nerdy roots.
I think a length of wire is more about being a vague measurement and to distinguish it from a wire coil, which is a separately useful thing in electronics.
Calling things a length isn’t indicative of being short. Terms like a length of rope and length of wire are fairly normal ways to talk about things without a strict measurement.
Yes I think it’s just a substitute term for “piece” of wire. But distinctly I recall “length” being commonly used in those old science books from the 40s and 50s. To me Professor Farnsworth seems cut out of that mold, the classic black and white movie scientist character.
I’m barely 40 and calling something a length of X seems totally normal to me. Making me feel old with that grandpa talk kid.
LOL I’m 70, talking about books from the 40s and 50s that my small-town library had in the 60s.
Come to think of it I have seen length of pipe or length of tubing in modern plumbing instructions.
It is normal, they’re just being weird about it because social media has rotted the brains of basically every living person.
I’m too lazy to keep things organized, does that get me out of autism?
I think that upgrades your autism to audhd.
Nah, it just means the ADHD that often accompanied Autism is fight full force.
