Our lives wouldn’t be so complicated if we had financial freedom via a UBI and didn’t have that metaphorical gun put to our heads to make us keep working forever.
Most animals do very little every day, humans are one of the only animals to have no resource scarcity but still work ourselves into an early grave from stress.
Uhm. Most animals live by the grace of chance and circumstance. Barely getting enough to sustain life.
I think I understand what you’re trying to say, but you can’t seriously think that pre-industrial age people were sitting around and doing nothing? Post-industrial age came with an explosion of people to match the new amount of resources. If we don’t produce the resources then people die.
Do you want a simpler life or an easier life? Those are two very different things.
There are theories that hunter-gatherers worked significantly less. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_affluent_society
I’m all for testing 6 hour work days.
But the fantasy of universal income is too farfetched. Who will produce the food? Are we to collectively agree that we take turns on producing the food? I sure as hell don’t want that, and there lies the core issue. How do you force people to do things that they don’t want to do?
Lol, these downvotes. Explain the system instead. How do you propose to force people?
Why the hell do you immediately think of slavery? You don’t force people to do anything. If you need work done, you pay people to do it. Obviously.
And since workers have a guaranteed income to fall back upon, employers have no choice but to pay a fair wage. That’s the entire point.
Seriously, if you want to understand UBI, there are whole studies available online for your reading pleasure. There are dozens of books on the subject. Your question isn’t mysterious or insurmountable, but worse, it’s not even insightful. It reveals that you’ve never given it the slightest consideration or study. Do some work. You were down voted because you’re so wildly off-base as to not even be wrong.
Since you brought it up though, what do you think our current society intends to do with us besides slavery and genocide? And how do you propose to stop it?
Why the hell do you immediately think of slavery? You don’t force people to do anything. If you need work done, you pay people to do it. Obviously.
So just capitalism then. But with extra steps.
And since workers have a guaranteed income to fall back upon, employers have no choice but to pay a fair wage. That’s the entire point.
No…? The ones that work to produce would control the supply and the prices would reflect it. Kind of like that other system that starts with c.
Seriously, if you want to understand UBI, there are whole studies available online for your reading pleasure. There are dozens of books on the subject.
I’ve read plenty of articles about it, not sold on it. Was curious if anyone had any way to sell it. You just present it as capitalism, which i suppose is one way to do it. Though I would argue that people would stop doing necessary jobs, since they no longer need to work.
Capitalism is when a small amount of people own the means of production while doing no work and profiting off the labor of many. It isn’t when people buy and sell and work for money.
When you suggest that people must be forced to work, it demonstrates you don’t understand it at all.
UBI simply puts power back where it belongs, in the hands of the workers.
capitalism is when a small amount of people own the means of production.
Wrong. That would be oligarchy. But i can tell that you are confused since you present UBI as capitalism without even realizing it.
underrated comment.
The post above yours would make more sense if we had reached a Star Trek level of future where the baseline population is educated enough to know what’s best for them and their own rights.
Unfortunately we are so very far away from it, sigh
freaking and burn are bad words now?
What in tarnation
Smashmouth tried to warn us. The years keep coming and they do not stop coming.
Something I think we don’t talk about too much that has additionally fallen to the throes of Late Stage Capitalism is the dissolution of nuclear and extended families, as well as the normalcy of shared households.
Before, the everyday tasks of any one domicile could be reasonably expected to be split up amongst its cohorts. Kids do their chores, dad mows the lawn, mom does the wash, nana does the cooking, auntie takes the kids to school/shopping, or your housemates help out, etc etc.
But most of this generation is living in isolated pods, single-serving everything. You are solely responsible for the cooking, cleaning, washing, shopping, studying, working, running to the bank, filing taxes, trip planning, car maintenance, home repairs, and your godddamn mental health. Of course it’s too much work for just one person, but it’s become so normalized by now that people hardly even notice there’s a problem, much less any viable solution to it. Instead, we all resign ourselves to being “tired all the time”, physically and emotionally, and not knowing why.
And not to go down the conspiracy rabbit hole - I think this is more of a blind “race to the bottom” scenario - but it makes a lot more money for the rent-seeking class when we’re socially isolated. A couple shares a house/apartment, shares chores, may even be able to share a car. When they break up, that’s now 2 apartments, 2 cars, individual trips for everything, etc.
It’s not quite that clean of course, and plenty of folks live with roommates. But there’s definitely a perverse economic incentive to keep us detached from community and partnership, and everything from AI/social media/online dating to the gender/culture wars seems to be pushing us farther in that direction.
They literally teach you this in highschool science. They teach you that the universe is a dynamic system driven by entropy. They teach you that equilibrium, i.e. a state of stability in a dynamic system, is achieved when the rate of structural formation equals the rate of destruction, e.g. bonds forming/breaking, population birth/death, organizing/disorganizing one’s room… Managing while not burning out is stability.
The classic question of “when would any of this be applicable in the real world” is intended to be a critique of how school curriculums can be dated or out of touch with chages in how the world works. It also highlights the often understated goal of a good education–shaping students into people who have the fundamental tools and the mindset to actively answer that crucial question for themselves.
Get a significant other, share the pain.
It’s on my to-do list.
Compare your life to that of a caveman: constantly watching out for predators, fire risks, intrusive insects, maintaining an insufficient shelter, tanning and hiding your clothing out of necessity, sleeping fretfully, and of course spending a good portion of your day scrounging for food whilst keeping the kids alive.
Our ADHD brains were in overdrive much of our history to cope with the dangers and stress of living.
Nowadays we have systematic soceital dangers to focus on, but we forget that our minds are far less distracted by real threats, and so we seek arbitrary topics to hyperfixate upon
Just breathe, write lists, you got this.
Our ADHD brains
Just breathe, write lists
OH MY GOD, how did I never think of this?!?!? This is going to absolutely turn my life around, this is such an amazing day!
Do you also tell people in wheelchairs to “just stand up,” or people with dyslexia to “just read what’s on the paper?”
I may forget to check my lists but I at least I have them for when I remember
Baby steps. They don’t have to be organized lists, there’s no need to overthink it – write emails to yourself, send TODO messages over Whatsapp to yourself – be as chaotic and inefficient as you like in the process of writing said lists, and don’t worry about the perfection.
Wheelchair users can get around without standing up, and dyslexic people can read and write at their own pace
Well from my point of view if I’m not making a good list I may as well not be making a list
More unwanted advice: do not let your perfectionism stand in the way of your progress
Okay but who’s gonna do the reading of said lists? Because I never see them again after writing. It doesn’t even occur to me that I’d written a list.
Well I’ve come to realise that it’s not the list itself really that helps you accomplish the task, it’s the writing of it.
That momentary 10 second concentration of writing said thing down on paper or on your phone is often enough for it to linger just behind your frontal lobe long enough to prompt you to do it sometime in the next few hours or day.
Dunno, try it, see how you fare
It would only be like your examples if they said to keep everything in your head. Using lists are one way people with adhd can help themselves, because now you have a list to go back to.
But please, go off.
If I had a dollar for every time someone suggested a planner to fix my executive dysfunction - which has virtually nothing to do with not knowing what I should be doing - then I would be able to afford my ADHD medication.
But please, go off on disorders you clearly don’t understand.
I’m in the same boat. I tried it all, enthusiastically. It helped me only a slight amount, and it often felt like I was being told that smiling helps cure depression 😎 fucking awesome thanks
every time someone suggested a planner to fix my executive dysfunction
Interesting how that’s not what I or the other person commented.
Is a planner not where most people construct their daily lists and otherwise plan their approaches to upcoming events? It’s not a stretch to say that using a planner involves… Making lists? Daily?
I did not suggest that a planner or list would fix their executive dysfunction. I suggested that their analogy, telling a person in a wheelchair to just stand up and telling people with dyslexia just read what’s on the paper, isn’t the same as what the other person was saying. Making lists is a thing that “can” help people with ADHD (I even put can in bold back in that other comment). I did not say, Ledivin, YOUR life would be solved if you just made lists. To your other point on this thread, I’m also not telling people to smile to cure their depression. I bet it feels like that for you both often and I understand the frustration that comes with that but that was not coming from either of us, that’s (probably) coming from your past interactions with others.
That other comment (not mine, I was being snarky with my “go off” bit so I reasonably expected the response I got) was just some words of encouragement and a small generalized suggestion. Nothing more than a “keep your head up” type thing, at least that’s how I read it.
telling a person in a wheelchair to just stand up and telling people with dyslexia just read what’s on the paper
Have you ever considered that there are actually cases where people in wheelchairs regain partial motor function in their legs by going through rigorous physical therapy and training the muscles to bear weight again? It’s on the less common side, but it applies to some folks.
Additionally, a good portion of children with dyslexia grow out of it as their ability to process text develops over time, through constant reading.
I know these situations are much larger in magnitude, but can’t you see how a solution for some is not a good suggestion for others? If I told someone with dyslexia to read more, odds are they will be irritated, even if it might be their solution.
Suggesting a list for those with executive dysfunction may be a reasonable thing, objectively, but it can come off as uninvolved or ignorant for someone who has tried to utilize lists hundreds (if not thousands) of times in their life. I think it would be better received if you suggested writing one or two tasks down at a time, at least. A list of two items is hardly a list and is more approachable, and if it doesn’t work for someone then it doesn’t feel like much of a commitment/time waste.
I get that the hostile responses feel bad… But wouldn’t you also feel bad if you were struggling with anxiety and someone told you to “just relax”? At the very least they should suggest a means to relax and not just… Tell you to.
Have some empathy for the frustrated and suggest a means of setting and working towards goals without downright suggesting a list, maybe.
Nowadays we have systematic soceital dangers to focus on, but we forget that our minds are far less distracted by real threats
This implies that the systematic societal dangers aren’t real threats, which they most certainly are
Of course, but they’re barely something you can actually do anything about other than protest and voting. Do those two things, and then make peace with your day
Compare your life to that of a caveman
Whataboutism
Dunno, the post seems to be more of a critique of life in general, rather than specifically of life in our modern times. I think my comparison can apply if the former is true
Honestly, the “it never ends” part is real — the best hack I’ve found is separating daily maintenance from actual projects so you don’t feel like you’re failing at life every time you do laundry. Also: future-you deserves a day off too.
yeah, I sometimes thank past me when I don’t have to deal with hassle avoided by my past actions (even if it’s mundane stuff like washing the dishes yesterday xd)
Why is Pepe AI
In the universe of Chaos, stability doesnt exist. Its an illusion
No one forces you to do all things, maybe bills since some are imposed by the States.
Self preservation mandates that we do those things. Sourcing food, cooking, cleaning, washing clothes, cleaning our living areas.
Still you are forcing those upon yourself (you can eat outside, order food, use disposable plates, etc). I don’t even consider things like cleaning and washing a problem though.
Stuff like bills in countries like mine you have to pay for them because it’s illegal to live outside the grid. Email is also not necessary, me having over a dozen emails is some self-inflicted pain, me using whatsapp because that’s what family and friends use is some external inflicted pain but I could choose not to use it.
I phrased it “source food” on purpose, no matter how you get it you still need to do it every day. You’re either going to put in an enormous amount of effort to grow your own food or you need a job to buy your food. And you still need to cook it. Washing clothes and keeping your abode clean are still necessary and something you can’t get away from no matter where you are.
Of course all the other stuff you mention is optional. But using WhatsApp isn’t anywhere in the same ballpark in terms of effort.
The stability of… not having to dishes or other chores? Lmao
So glad they censored fre*king. I almost had to read a minced oath.
I really do get why it’s being called out, its silly and annoying.
8/10 of the top comments in my client are complaining about this, though.
It’s easy for me to ignore and move on from the censored text, but its harder to ignore the comments when they are taking up so much space.
Again, I get why, and I understand that each commenter probably didn’t see eachothers comments at the time of posting. And again, I get that this censoring is ridiculous.
I am not really offering a solution, and I’m not sure that people should stop calling it out but… theres got to be a better way? Maybe such posts should just be banned? Deleted by mods? If it is so frustrating for so many people.
I’m more concerned about the “barn out”
I’m just glad they censored
Trigger warning: non federated platform
/r/AskReddit
Seriously, so fucking gross
NSFL tag please.
gasp! such language! burn!? as in burning!? for shame!
Should have said flame instead.
It says freaking, not fucking
It’s “barn”, not “burn”
Thanks for sharing. I appreciate the decensoring effort. Hang in there.
But why did you leave the subreddit and usernames censored
•o••a•• ••o, that’s ••a•y
SHIELD YOUR EYES
goddamn bro, that’s crazy
(I’m not trying to format all the escapes needed for that many asterisks, lol)
They also censored the names of the pseudonyms on a public website.
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It’s just engagement bait at this point
My kid got in a fall and I had to leave work to go to Urgent Care. Three hours for a doctor to give my kid a pain med and a bandaid, and costing us $2k.
Ive been helping my unemployed ex-teammates find work and stay motivated.
My wife’s side of the family messed up on their paperwork and because they’re also dark skinned, I’m worried about ICE.
I took my other kid to the park last week and was called a sexual predator by another mom. Ive been pretending to be okay as the women in my family all blame me for “looking how I look”.
My cousins have called me twice in the past month concerned about bills, and I’m sending them food money.
Oh and the Europeans on Lemmy is yelling at me for being an American because I’m not doing enough to stop Trump.
I took my other kid to the park last week and was called a sexual predator by another mom. Ive been pretending to be okay as the women in my family all blame me for “looking how I look”.
I’m very sorry for you, and fuck the women in your family for saying something like that. Someone who thinks you look like a sexual predator and says you deserve to get harassed for your looks is no family of mine. I’m a woman, but I’d slap the shit out of someone if I knew they said that to their male family member.
I appreciate the kind words. Thank you.
I feel like the manosphere is so loud right now that average dudes is caught in the crossfire. All I can do is politely apologize on behalf men for all the toxicity. Which again, a tiny fraction of the many things going on in the world.
Acknowledge their complaints are valid, sure, but you should not apologize for the actions of others just because they share superficial similarities. Internalizing guilt for things other people do isn’t healthy.
Keep being a decent person, that is the best you can do.
Especially after offering to look after the kids
Lots on your shoulders brother. I praise you for holding it all together. You’re doing a great job despite being ask so much and disrespected. Man to man, family man to family man, this all will pass. Stay kind brother.
I respect you. If not for a random parent being dual citizen somewhere else, I’d be in the exact same shoes. We got out four years ago.
Try to ignore the people on this site who can’t distinguish between real people and real problems. The system is all about making good people less activated. Just keep doing your best.
Stay with us, friend.
This, too, shall pass.
WHO IS CENSORING THE WORD “BURN” ???
I suspect there’s an algorithm out there on some other platform where boosting is adversely affected by any kind of negative language, and people have figured it out and try to game it with this kind of thing.
FREAKING? FREAKING. NOT FUCKING. FREAKING. WHAT.
I initially thought it said “bitch out,” meaning that the censorship made me think of a “worse” word.
edit: Also didn’t realize until now that that freaking said “freaking.” Again … Censorship made things seem more extreme.
The people who know you’ll engage with the post with a comment like this.
It’s basically free engagement from nothing.
fire hot -> fire bad! if fire bad, need to cover word to not summon fire!
