• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    In order for it to pass, they need 290 votes in the House. The Republicans currently have 220 votes, so they would need 70 Democrats to flip.

    Then it goes to the Senate where they need 67 votes. First, 60 to get past the inevitable filibuster, and with 53 votes, Republicans need 7 Democrats to flip to move it forward and 14 to pass it.

    Then, the fun part, they need 38 states to ratify it. Trump did win 31 states, so he would still need 7 Harris states to ratify an amendment.

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      Nah. They’re just gonna say “whachu gonna do about it” as he sits in the office for the third time. Or the richest men in the world backing the regime will just bri lobby.

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    It’s cute how so many in the comments think the legal checks will prevent this. They don’t care about the law or the Constitution in the same way they don’t care about optics, hypocrisy, decorum, or process. People keep viewing this through the lense of American democracy. None of that matters to fascists.

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    Me as a Tennessean: “I bet it’s Andy Ogles”

    Checks

    Goddamn can I read that man like a fucking book. I’m sorry we’re all trying to vote the bastard out but the State gerrymandered the district because… AND I SHIT YOU NOT… “California does it, so it’s okay if we do it too”. Honest to God what our State Assembly said about breaking Nashville up into a hellscape of gerrymandering.

    Do know, he’s an idiot IRL as well. He’s the kind that’s really full of himself and he’s got a super high self-worth in head.

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    FTA" “Trump “has proven himself to be the only figure in modern history capable of reversing our nation’s decay and restoring America to greatness, and he must be given the time necessary to accomplish that goal,”” - He hasn’t don’t anything yet!! How has he ‘proven himself’

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    Surely we would all actually show up to try to flight this, right? If it passed.

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      Absolutely. People talk about another civil war. If you start hear ing about spontaneous violence in the streets, that’s when you need to worry. I think if this actually passed, we’d start hearing about stuff like that.

      Realistically, Republicans know this has no chance of passing. Frankly, I think this is just mean-spirited trolling–which is a good indicator of the state of our politics. We want to see the other side suffer.

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    Good fucking luck with that hurdle.

    They need a two-thirds vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate; or a conventio called by Congress at the request of two-thirds of the state legislatures. Then it has to be ratified by the legislatures of three-quarters of the states.

    Even if they managed a super majority on both sides of Congress for Trumplefuck, there’s no way they’re getting 38 States to agree to that.

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      Trump is ruling by executive order and no one is stopping him from doing any of it, constitutional or not.
      He’ll just issue an executive order to lower the threshold and at best that order gets challenged and goes to the SCOTUS, and we all know what will happen there.

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      Trump is the candidate during next election

      Red States let him be an option even though they shouldn’t

      He wins enough red States to have a majority

      They name him president even though it’s against the Constitution

      The supreme Court is packed with his picks so they don’t do anything about it

      Tada! Civil war? Dissolution of the USA? Who knows!?!

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      It’s sad that you guys still think the rule of the constitution is some massive roadblock that they’ve somehow missed. They literally made an Executive Order that just says “No” to the very first sentence of the 14th amendment, do you think none of them noticed? They get to have a vote about ludicrous things, and they get to gleefully destroy the lives of any Republican who dares vote against them. Maybe it gets struck down for the time being? Who cares, the courts are packed, they can realistically just start killing people pretty soon and it’ll start with the disloyals and the true believers as needed as it always does.

      You cannot logical trap nor get off on technicalities fascists. It does not matter to them, they will just do what they want anyways, all that matters is if they can crush anyone who tries to stop them.

      They are pushing the boundaries of the conversation and they are testing the waters, and every time they’re pushed back on they use the limp push back to consolidate more power because nobody has been willing to actually stop them.

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      I don’t think the law is a restricting factor for the trump regime.

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      No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than three times, nor be elected to any additional term after being elected to two consecutive terms…

      Obama served 2 consecutive terms so would be ineligible. They literally wrote this so that only Trump would be eligible.

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      Oh, fuck no. Obama’s leadership is what got us in this mess. He and the Clinton’s drove the Democratic party off a cliff.

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    Do they really expect their orange beanbag leader to still be alive in four years? And if he still is, to still be able to know his own name or speak coherently in public?

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      He only needs to stagger over the four-year line before dropping dead, and Republicans get to stay in charge for four more years.

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      Actuarial tables for an obese guy of his age reckon 50/50 chance of making it to the end of his term. Of course he has access to better healthcare than most.

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        Better health care but I gotta imagine day to day odds aren’t so hot for a dude who’s on a diet of McDonalds and Diet Coke. Kind of surprised he’s made it to 78.

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        I can see him possibly making it that far … but I really don’t think he’ll be making much more sense the older he gets. He could live another 20 years, it doesn’t mean he’ll have all his marbles.

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          Have you heard that dipshit talk? Making sense isn’t what his followers want from him; his word-salad just needs to come sprinkled with the occasional slur.

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            Technically, no need for him to even add a slur, his face is a slur.

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            It won’t be a test of how much he can continue to make sense

            It will be a test to see how far his supporters will be willing to ignore how stupid he will become

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        They know it has no chance to pass. It’s with straight up boot licking, or they think they have a plan to bypass the amendment process.

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    That will never happen, legally, anyway.

    However

    22nd amendment says:

    Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. …

    So what they are gonna do is that:

    They are gonna argue that presidents are not “elected” but appointed by the Electoral College, therefore the 22nd amendment doesn’t apply and hereby null and void.

    Or just use elect VP + accension to presidency loophole, and run a dead person as President, then trump as VP, since the placeholder name they put for president isn’t alive, VP become president.

    Or just cast placeholder names for presidency and VP, and use the Speaker role as acting president.

    There are so many loopholes that doesn’t require repealing 22nd amendment.

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      Sorry if I have no faith in the US democracy and law system after a literal felon who staged a coup got re elected, had his bestie pull a bunch of nazi salutes while he was busy pardoning literal violent criminals who did the coup, made everyone a woman AND started a system of snitching on your neighbor to get them removed for noncrimes.

      And lets not forget people enforcing the law are now his cronies.

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      The 1st is a stretch. To goes so far beyond the meaning and precedent that you might as well annul the whole constitution at that point.

      The 2nd doesn’t work, because you must be eligible for president to run as vice president.

      As for the speaker, maybe.

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        The 2nd doesn’t work, because you must be eligible for president to run as vice president.

        The 22nd amendment is worded in a way that could be interpreted as an eligibility to run for the presidency, not an eligibility to be the president. Theoretically, the supreme court step in and give their interpretation of it.

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          Read the document. It specifically calls out the VP for this. You can’t be elected VP if you can’t be elected president.

          • no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice President of the United States

            Which begs the question, is the 22nd amendment a requirement to be president or just a requirement to get elected as president.

            The supreme court can decide.

            (I know what the spirit of the law is, but

            the letter of the law =/= the spirit of the law)

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      I mean, it’s gonna. Every worst case thing is happening all over the place. The constitution is only as good as the people upholding it.

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    Stop hand wringing in here. It’s fucking stupid, and a PR play. You need 38 states for a constitutional amendment, and that isn’t happening however you slice it.

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      It wouldn’t even get that far. You need either two thirds of both House and Senate or for two thirds of the states to call for a constitutional convention just to propose an amendment.

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      Just shoot however many states are missing govenors in the head, as the SC has ruled the president can order anything illegal. Repeat until passed.

      The US has rotten so much on the inside over the past decades, that this decline of the nation is inevitable. Question is only, if people will let the fascists control the decline until the country lies in rubbles, or if people will fight to create a new nation.

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    But, but, I thought he didn’t need this because he has never served two CONSECUTIVE terms! /s