• halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    Good fucking luck with that hurdle.

    They need a two-thirds vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate; or a conventio called by Congress at the request of two-thirds of the state legislatures. Then it has to be ratified by the legislatures of three-quarters of the states.

    Even if they managed a super majority on both sides of Congress for Trumplefuck, there’s no way they’re getting 38 States to agree to that.

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      9 hours ago

      Trump is ruling by executive order and no one is stopping him from doing any of it, constitutional or not.
      He’ll just issue an executive order to lower the threshold and at best that order gets challenged and goes to the SCOTUS, and we all know what will happen there.

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        The only effective short-term roadblocks are going to be legal challenges, like the ones WA’s governor and AG have been preparing for. You’re right that this only works until it gets overturned by SCOTUS, and it doubly hurts progressives because we now have to spend resources (time and money) fighting nonsense instead of fighting for causes we want…like some goddamn healthcare.

        Delay. Deny. Depose.

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      Trump is the candidate during next election

      Red States let him be an option even though they shouldn’t

      He wins enough red States to have a majority

      They name him president even though it’s against the Constitution

      The supreme Court is packed with his picks so they don’t do anything about it

      Tada! Civil war? Dissolution of the USA? Who knows!?!

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      It’s sad that you guys still think the rule of the constitution is some massive roadblock that they’ve somehow missed. They literally made an Executive Order that just says “No” to the very first sentence of the 14th amendment, do you think none of them noticed? They get to have a vote about ludicrous things, and they get to gleefully destroy the lives of any Republican who dares vote against them. Maybe it gets struck down for the time being? Who cares, the courts are packed, they can realistically just start killing people pretty soon and it’ll start with the disloyals and the true believers as needed as it always does.

      You cannot logical trap nor get off on technicalities fascists. It does not matter to them, they will just do what they want anyways, all that matters is if they can crush anyone who tries to stop them.

      They are pushing the boundaries of the conversation and they are testing the waters, and every time they’re pushed back on they use the limp push back to consolidate more power because nobody has been willing to actually stop them.

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        With all due respect, that is some real defeatist dog shit. Yes, Trump and cronies have no respect for the constitution or the rule of law. But if we collectively roll over at the first fascist executive order, that’s exactly what they want us to do… They are testing the waters. The supreme court is packed, but every circuit court in the country certainly isn’t. And that’s where these battles are already being fought. We need to collectively resist every encroachment, every power grab. Otherwise we’re nearly as culpable as Trump for the rise of fascism.

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      14 hours ago

      I don’t think the law is a restricting factor for the trump regime.