If your brain is hallucinating reality, you might need to get institutionalized for your safety and the safety of the rest of society. There is nothing philosophical about that, so get that checked.
I’m obviously not talking about eating mushrooms, here is a link I found after literally searching for 1 minute that explains what “the brain hallucinates reality” means if you never thought about things like that before.
OMG it’s a freaking TED talk! The fact that the brain is perceiving the experiences through the senses doesn’t mean it is necessarily hallucinating in the same sense an llm is; How do you pair that argument with the fact that our body is also intelligent? That we have a corporeal experience that feeds our construction of the world? Does your argument has anything to do with that bullshit about all of us “living in a simulation?” because that videogame obsessed tech bro shit has been outdated for more than a decade. Also that idea of the “body as an interpreter for the transductors of our senses” Reeks of that old Christian mind and soul duality. It’s one of the reasons i tend to say that this obsession with large language models is Christianity for tech guys. You want to be in heaven with AI god? You want to live eternal life as a digitized brain? X,D
I’ll not down vote you but I will give you the rhetoric.
You could argue we are just constantly hallucinating but that’s circular logic because we know that we all have a shared perceived reality and that people are capable of hallucinating. That is, we define the word hallucinate by its relation to what we would all colloquially refer to as reality.
If you argue that all you do is hallucinate then the word loses all meaning. For example, I may see things that are not actually there and also see things that do exist, how would one draw a distinction if “all our brain is doing is hallucinating?”
I think it’s a fun thought experiment, you know, akin to the shadows on the wall in Plato’s allegory of the cave, but ultimately you’d be driven to madness if truly there was no way to tell what was real.
You are assuming what most people assume, as you say to not go mad, but that doesn’t prove anything. We cannot even prove there are other concious people.
The main lines from there are roughly:
The world exist as we perceive it
We live in a simulation
We are a Boltzmann brain
Hence the “the brain is just s lump of fat, hallucinating” (I didn’t invent the phrase BTW, hence my reaction to people just being angry about it) it’s hallucinating consciousness. It gets blips from nerves, and that’s about it. How can it not hallucinate it’s imagined world?
As for going mad, you have several schools of philosophy dealing with the meaninglessness of existance; nihilism, existentialism and absurdism.
You can also reject all that and believe there is some god so that you don’t need to figure anything out at all.
It’s early in the morning, I might have answered questions that were not there and missed others.
I don’t know why you’re downvoted, you’re right. None of us “know” reality fully and clearly - we’re all making best guesses and using limited and biased faculties.
One can argue that our brain is hallucinating “reality” in its meat prison, but that is more of a philosophical questions I guess.
If your brain is hallucinating reality, you might need to get institutionalized for your safety and the safety of the rest of society. There is nothing philosophical about that, so get that checked.
I’m obviously not talking about eating mushrooms, here is a link I found after literally searching for 1 minute that explains what “the brain hallucinates reality” means if you never thought about things like that before.
OMG it’s a freaking TED talk! The fact that the brain is perceiving the experiences through the senses doesn’t mean it is necessarily hallucinating in the same sense an llm is; How do you pair that argument with the fact that our body is also intelligent? That we have a corporeal experience that feeds our construction of the world? Does your argument has anything to do with that bullshit about all of us “living in a simulation?” because that videogame obsessed tech bro shit has been outdated for more than a decade. Also that idea of the “body as an interpreter for the transductors of our senses” Reeks of that old Christian mind and soul duality. It’s one of the reasons i tend to say that this obsession with large language models is Christianity for tech guys. You want to be in heaven with AI god? You want to live eternal life as a digitized brain? X,D
Anybody can argue anything, doesn’t make it inherently valid.
Lets spell it out: all our brain is doing is hallucinating.
Just a fun fact, whoosh I guess.
Edit: downvotes by angry people without rhetoric?
I’ll not down vote you but I will give you the rhetoric.
You could argue we are just constantly hallucinating but that’s circular logic because we know that we all have a shared perceived reality and that people are capable of hallucinating. That is, we define the word hallucinate by its relation to what we would all colloquially refer to as reality.
If you argue that all you do is hallucinate then the word loses all meaning. For example, I may see things that are not actually there and also see things that do exist, how would one draw a distinction if “all our brain is doing is hallucinating?”
I think it’s a fun thought experiment, you know, akin to the shadows on the wall in Plato’s allegory of the cave, but ultimately you’d be driven to madness if truly there was no way to tell what was real.
Thank you.
You are assuming what most people assume, as you say to not go mad, but that doesn’t prove anything. We cannot even prove there are other concious people.
The main lines from there are roughly:
The world exist as we perceive it
We live in a simulation
We are a Boltzmann brain
Hence the “the brain is just s lump of fat, hallucinating” (I didn’t invent the phrase BTW, hence my reaction to people just being angry about it) it’s hallucinating consciousness. It gets blips from nerves, and that’s about it. How can it not hallucinate it’s imagined world?
As for going mad, you have several schools of philosophy dealing with the meaninglessness of existance; nihilism, existentialism and absurdism.
You can also reject all that and believe there is some god so that you don’t need to figure anything out at all.
It’s early in the morning, I might have answered questions that were not there and missed others.
Have a great day!
There’s big M’lady energy coming from this comment.
"Mlady i am going insane… "
I don’t know why you’re downvoted, you’re right. None of us “know” reality fully and clearly - we’re all making best guesses and using limited and biased faculties.
Yeah, sort of some angry downvote bandwagon I guess 😋. What I said isn’t even controversial lol.
Nah it’s not controversial, just stupid.
What an argument!