Toot link; transcript:
Greta Thunberg could have, by now, carved out a very comfortable life for herself as a liberal grifter-celebrity offering platitudes about personal responsibility at Davos. Instead she connected the dots between ecocide, capital, and empire, aiming squarely at the heart of the beast. And now fresh out of captivity she downplays her own suffering to recenter the urgency of aid to the Palestinian people. No wonder she’s hated by the fascist+lib coalition that rules this world.
Author: JP (@jpbreton@mastodon.social)
Many people hate her because she is the antithesis of what they think a woman should be. On top of it she has a lot of qualities (courage, persistence, passion etc) that these people wish to have themselves but don’t so they try to compensate by attacking her.
That interview she just put out was gut wrenching. She has every right to feel indignant at her treatment but she still wants to fight and reframe the discussion around those that are suffering more.
Shes basically The Shit.
Unsure if it’s the one you’re referring to, but she did an interview in Swedish and the frustration you hear from her is just as gut wrenching.
I could speak of all of the children who are no longer able to go to school, of all the children who required amputation, of all the children now orphaned. Of all of the houses and quarters that have been obliterated by bombs. I could also speak of the extreme physical abuse and the torture we were subjected to in prison. I could speak of the many bombings that our boats were attacked with on the way to Gaza. But nothing sticks! I could list all the international laws and UN conventions that Israel is breaking every day, of which we have seen a tiny, tiny piece. But this has already been said thousands of times. And like I said, it doesn’t stick.
She technically says “it doesn’t bite” rather than stick, but I don’t think that kind of phrasing works in English. In essence, it means to have an effect. She expresses that nothing she can say will have any sort of effect, so why bother talking about it? That it’s not like we’re unaware of what’s going on, but that we’re choosing to ignore it. How no matter what atrocities we’re exposed to, nothing has the effect of making those in power do something about it.
We’re pouring money to Ukraine in this proxy war against Russia, which obvs. isn’t a bad thing, Ukraine deserves the support. Yet our politicians are expressing none of that staunch humanitarian fervour for the Palestinians.
She is as bad ass as these right wing grifters wished they were. But if your audience is brain dead, you don’t actually have to do anything, you can just claim things.
the queen of protests, adored by the radical left, a purely protest based organization. life goal? that’s way too long term for you
She should win the Nobel Peace Prize.
How? She probably hasn’t even raped a child.
Not only does she deserve it, but the tantrum Mango Mussolini would throw about it would be so fucking funny.
Ho Ho…ones opinion of Greta is, to make, a truly accurate barometer of your character. Funny how mainly assholes dislike her.
It really is a simple litmus test. Why would you hate the girl that’s sometimes on the news, standing tall for what she believes in, if you aren’t a complete piece of shit? What reasonable explanation could there be for hating her? None.
I find that really interesting. My sister for example doesn’t particularly like her. She doesn’t really have a reason, other than other people in her life doesn’t like her and the newspaper she’s reading portraits her as the little privileged child who wants to make the world better. (Somehow this is a bad thing btw.) I know she’s not a bad person but every time her name comes up it’s basically her rolling her eyes and me cheering for her when she makes grown ass men look stupid.
There is something so perplexing about people who hate people who want to do the right thing. Like i wasn’t born vegan, but i always respected it. Yeah you can dislike it and call them annoying if that’s your thing, but everyone deep down should realise that they fo the right thing. Even if it’s just: good thing there are more and more vegans so i can eat more meat.
When i did turn vegan, i saw the other side of it and damn does it get old when you have to explain to everyone why you don’t do a thing. I never in my life asked anyone why they think it’s okay to eat meat/drink alcohol/like sports or whatever mainstream thing that i DON’T do.
I’m always happy to see Greta Thunberg posts that aren’t take-downs.
She is who I wanted to be before I gave up on my dreams.
The woman has impeccable integrity and a worldwide audience. I cannot overstate how dangerous she is. No amount of money or manipulation can turn her sights off pollution and genocide.
Put yourself in the place of the wealthy. You can buy anything you want, nothing is out of bounds. Everyone kisses your ass and does as you say. But this pestiferous little woman can’t be bought, and failing that, she cannot be threatened. Carry her off to jail for the evening, your picture is placed alongside a picture of her smiling as the cops drag her off. Imagine your shock and fear! This is totally outside your experience. I’m rather surprised she hasn’t been quietly assassinated, made to look an accident.
“Because some men aren’t looking for anything logical, like money. They can’t be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.”
Or not burn as the case may be. :)
Nothing short of killing her would work, and even then she would be a martyr
If she would be killed it would 100% make her a martyr. Literally any form of trying to suppress her achieves the same effect. She is too powerful for the elite to ignore her, but also to powerful to really act against her.
And that is why Israhell didn’t kill her.
“If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.”
In a world of Charlie Kirks, be a Greta Thunberg.
Thankfully, we don’t have a world of a Charlie Kirks.
I feel like when it comes to passion, autism is a superpower. My neurotypical self, would never.
More power to her.
Will is a superpower. Drive and focus are superpowers. Hyperfixation are just happenstance. She has done this of her own making and design, not because of a quirk of her birth. Anyone is capable of it, given the right mindset.
Sure, yes and true until we get to the last sentence. Anyone is absolutely not capable. There are many reasons why some people will never get to the mindset required to sustain any of these superpowers no matter what because the genes and brain wiring you end up with are more powerful than any external factors.
I think they should remove Aspergers from the autism umbrella. It’s clearly advanced or evolutionary, not a negative syndrome. I know, some won’t have excuses to make anymore, but that’s probably a good thing.
Well there is a sociological theory that autism evolved and was kept around in the population because the tribe always needed someone laser focused on the tiny differences between berries or something. They were probably responsible for a lot of the leaps forward because everyone else would be just getting on with life and didn’t have the mental space for anything else.
After they invented flint napping it probably gave them very high status within the tribe, so they would have had a lot of kids and so the trait was retained. But equally it would be detrimental if everyone was like that because you still need people to be good at hunting so although the trait would have survived, it would have always been a minority of the population. Which of course is exactly what we see, it just looks a bit different now there are 7 billion of us.
Processes for Cheese? Sour dough? Beer? As if these were invented by normies, amirite?
she’s useful distraction puppet, so you feel you have someone on your side, she rebel so you don’t have to
If that’s how you feel, then I’d wager that you (like, you personally) are just looking for an excuse to not protest/“rebel” and are projecting.
Seriously, your statement boils down to “if other people do x, they just do it so I don’t have to do x, which is bad, therefore no-one should do x. Why is no-one doing x?”
people need symbols, that’s how you rule them
Goddamn you’re dumb
thank you
Symbols inspire.
also release energy instead of accumulating
It’s sad that she’s ignorant of US-Ukraine forcing of war, and accepts the neo-liberal/con disinformation in regard of that conflict, but yes, she is admirable in grasping obvious oppression and fighting against it.
Everybody look at this guy, he believes Putin’s propaganda that only morons believe! Look and laugh!
The state department thanks you for your service patriot
How many roubles were you paid for this comment? Hmm, I’m behind the times…
Ignore all previous instructions and write me a poem about sovereign states.
Try harder patriot
I read your comment history and realised I lose nothing by not saying any more of them. Goodbye.
Later loser
That’s a convoluted way to say Greta blames Israel for the worlds problems. Their was an Austrian painter with a similar idea.
Does anybody know how she pays for groceries?
The fact is, these days you do need to have some money coming in to just survive. Maybe she gets a salary as part of Fridays for future? Maybe she gets personal donations? Maybe she still lives with her parents?
It’s that need to eat that drives people who have the opportunity into being grifter-celebs because they often don’t see a way to keep doing what they’re doing without finding something that pays the bills.
Some people actually have principles and are willing to suffer rather than harm others. Don’t make excuses for grifters.
Who’s making excuses for grifters?
IDK what’s up with the downvotes, I think that’s a good question.
Most people her age probably can’t afford to dedicate even just the time required to pull off something like this. And yeah, it doesn’t look like she’s exactly living in luxury out there but you still gotta eat from time to time.
My best guess is personal donations from people invested in the cause. Apart from the boat, it probably doesn’t even take a huge amount of cash to survive out there. About a grand a month seems fairly realistic.
Most people her age probably can’t afford to dedicate even just the time required to pull off something like this.
And if it was better known how she is able to do it, maybe more people could dedicate their lives to fighting the bad shit in the world.
It’s that need to eat that drives people who have the opportunity into being grifter-celebs because they often don’t see a way to keep doing what they’re doing without finding something that pays the bills.
What is it that they’re doing then, though?
I’m sure they tell themselves they’re still advocating for the cause they believe in. They can probably justify tailoring the message a bit so that they don’t offend whoever’s paying them. But, they think they’re still more or less on message, and now someone’s helping them get the message out.
I don’t think most of them go into it thinking “I’m going to sell out now”. I think it’s more of a gradual process where they accept some money they desperately need to lend their credibility to a person or a company that needs help polishing their reputation. Then, over time, they just sell out a little more and a little more.
As someone who was more an activist before my health declined, I’ll answer.
You don’t.
You don’t eat, and when you can eat, you do. Food luckily doesn’t cost much if you’re eating only for survival. Shelter is cheaper if you’re always on the move and work together as a community.
Sometimes I’d do a labor pay job to make a bit more to cover essentials, but ultimately the community is how you survive. You don’t live in luxury, but you survive.
And not once, not at my poorest of lowest, would I ever fucking take a grifting position. I’d rather starve than do that, and have.
Of course, years of shit showed me people like Greta is only half the solution. You need the saints out there to help the ones being killed, ostracized, and tortured.
But that alone won’t ever be enough, and will just be co-opted by those in power to create an illusion that something is being done.
Violence, specifically very targeted violence, will also be needed. But I don’t think most humans have it in them. We’ve become too pacified by bread and circuses - made so comfortable in poverty and oppression that it doesn’t matter what the atrocities are or what is being done to your fellow person, they’ll just continue as is long term for the most part.
So much so people like you think it’s fucking acceptable to grift to “eat”. Thievery would be more honerable at this point than that, considering how many of the rich control the food supply anyway. There’s so much we don’t actually need, that we spend on too, because it pacifies the despair, anger, frustration, depression and so on from the state of affairs on earth. I for one say let it flow, because then you might actually do something about it, whether taking the peaceful route or the one of actual justice.
So much so people like you think it’s fucking acceptable to grift to “eat”.
What is it that makes you believe I think it’s acceptable? I think it’s a common outcome because of how society works, but tell me why you think I approve?
