• Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    It’s fun watching you kids realize that the Democratic party isn’t the place to go for real change. I was there after Kucinich lost the primary in 2000 and then when Gore gave up fighting for his votes.

    Also: You have to vote for them no matter how much you hate them. If Fetterman wins his primary next time I MUST vote for him or I am letting Republicans win.

    As opposed to Chuck Schumer who also lets Republicans win.

  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    We’ve had less of the mocking “bOth SIdeS aRE thE SamE!” recently. I think more people are starting to see what we meant.

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      Both sides are still not the same, IMO.

      Dems suck, but not remotely to the same depth as Republicans.

      I’d hold my nose and vote for Harris again if the election were tomorrow, and for the same reason as last time. (Gestures around)

      Dems run the spectrum from conservative through milquetoast to leftist. The milquetoasts seem to win most of the time.

      R is 100% bigot fascist authoritarians or people for whom those things are not a dealbreaker.

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      2 months ago

      lol

      You think things would be exactly the same if Harris were president? That is a special kind of delusion you’ve built for yourself.

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        2 months ago

        The point is…both sides are right wing, not to the same extent, but you’re arguing about shit versus shit like there’s some huge difference. It’s pathetic.

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          Because there is. Harris wouldn’t be illegally deporting people with secret police to death camps, openly accepting bribes like a 747 from Qatar, trying to make the Ukraine surrender, shitting all over the epa, giving the reigns to Musk to gut the government, creating a meme coin and phone company to really show how little they respect the emoluments clause there are countless examples of “huge differences” that wouldn’t fly under Democrats. Democrats suck, are extremely problematic, and need major reform/replacement but pretending they’re as bad as Republicans is so wildly disingenuous I can’t take people that say that shit seriously

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            Harris wouldn’t do these things, but she would set the stage for fascists to do these things and more in 2029. Kicking the can down the road simply empowers fascists such that when (not if) they come to power they do more damage than if the bandaid had been ripped off in the first place. I mean, Biden won in 2020 and all America got was better-prepared fascists with a blueprint for how they’ll take over the United States, and as halfhearted as his attempts were at least Biden tried; Harris was only shaping up to be worse. If the only thing y’all can do is kick the can down the road, you might as well rip off the bandaid.

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              You’ve missed the role of the Supreme Court in this. The Justices appointed by the Ds have been against the worst of it at pretty much every opportunity and they have lifetime appointments.

              That was the real cost of Trump 1.0.

    • bountygiver [any]@lemmy.ml
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      It’s basically a way for the ruling class to see whether they can be more blatant on their exploits.

      Every republican win means the people can stomach more of the squeezes.

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      Don’t worry, I’m sure that if moderate Democrats succeed in their rabid crusade against Zohran and he gets defeated then they’ll turn around and say it was because we didn’t back Cuomo 1000% and without criticism, going back through your comment history and quoting this comment back to you every time you share any political opinion whatsoever.

      But they’re super serious about opposing Trump, pinky promise.

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      2 months ago

      I can assure you that the Democrat candidate Zohran Mamdani is going to be infinitely better than the Republican Sliwa.

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    2 months ago

    Don’t forget Bernie.

    DNC had the same exact response. With the same exact Trump.

    Took the DNC ten fucking years to pull their head out of their ass long enough to complain about young men populism being the key to victory, despite literally pissing away all the young men populism voters they had with Bernie Sanders.

    Thank fuck it’s now blatantly obvious with Zohran.

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    the Dems are in cahoots with the same elite that are in cahoots with the Reps. the dems and reps pretend to be on opposite ends of a spectrum, but they are both sucking up to capitalists and their corporations

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      2 months ago

      Trump by no means barely beat Harris, she and Clinton were both around 220 votes and Trump has an easy 300.

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    It wasn’t blue on blue. It was vested interests Vs a genuine candidate. The state of NY voted trump in, not because they like him, because they didn’t want the democrat party. This party as a tool of the corporations is finished. You’re watching its death throes.

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    For some of us, the 2016 Democratic primary was quite illuminating. I’m glad to see people are catching up finally.

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      2 months ago

      sO yOu ArE sAyInG “bOtH sIDeS eQuAlLy BaD”?!?!?!

      cOnGrAtULaTiOnS oN gEtTiNg TrUmP eLeCtEd!! :(

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        It’s like the second you notice parallels in our two party system, they misrepresent you as saying they are EXACTLY the same in EVERY REGARD.

        Meanwhile, we no longer question why we only have two parties to vote for in the first place. Hint: the two parties keep it that way.

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    2 months ago

    What exactly do you think the DNC is doing to fight

    *checks notes

    A candidate for the generals put forth by the DNC?

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      40% of the Democrats who endorsed thief and sexual predator Andrew Cuomo previously called for him to resign. The self-described party of women’s rights was more willing to support a serial sexual molester than a leftist candidate. They even defrosted sex pest and arch pervert Bill Clinton and wheeled him out to endorse her.

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        “Some Dems endorsed his shitty opponent!” was not exactly what I was expecting for “The Dems are being way meaner to Mamdani than Trump!”

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          Well, you have your own ineffable standard of evidence that no human being can live up to. That’s a character flaw of yours, and you’ll need to solve your own demons.

          For those with eyes that see and ears that hear, the actions of the dems in response to this race have been telling. Dems that have been silent and acquiescent to Trump have come out of the woodwork to not only endorse Cuomo, but to actively denounce Mamdani, their fellow Democrat. Many like Gillibrand have gone full Islamophobia in attacking Mamdani. The New York times made a big show of not endorsing candidate and then issuing a negative endorsement of Mamdani.

          I’m sure this is not going to be enough proof for you. Because you’re not arguing in good faith. You’re just going to keep demanding higher levels of proof and sources, all without offering any of your own. But again, that is a character flaw that you’re going to need to work with your therapist to resolve. I wish you luck on this. If you don’t have one, I suggest you find one that specializes in helping people who suffer from obsessive compulsive sea lioning.

          • PugJesus@lemmy.world
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            Well, you have your own ineffable standard of evidence that no human being can live up to. That’s a character flaw of yours, and you’ll need to solve your own demons.

            For those with eyes that see and ears that hear, the actions of the dems in response to this race have been telling. Dems that have been silent and acquiescent to Trump have come out of the woodwork to not only endorse Cuomo, but to actively denounce Mamdani, their fellow Democrat. Many like Gillibrand have gone full Islamophobia in attacking Mamdani. The New York times made a big show of not endorsing candidate and then issuing a negative endorsement of Mamdani.

            I’m sure this is not going to be enough proof for you. Because you’re not arguing in good faith. You’re just going to keep demanding higher levels of proof and sources, all without offering any of your own. But again, that is a character flaw that you’re going to need to work with your therapist to resolve. I wish you luck on this. If you don’t have one, I suggest you find one that specializes in helping people who suffer from obsessive compulsive sea lioning.

            Lord.