Preorders in 2027. No photos or real feature reveals.
It’d be nice of someone told them you don’t need that big pedestrian smasher grill on an ev.
It almost looks like they have framing to obscure the true shape under the tarps
I sure hope so.
It’s definitely foam blocks to obscure the shape. We use them for camo all the time.
That’s my impression of the photos too.
For sure they are hiding the shape. I still wouldn’t bet there’s a reasonably shaped front end under there.
Are you saying they’re hiding a gently sloping hood under there?
Especially since the sole reason for that bullshit is skirting fuel mileage requirements.
I hate how bad the visibility is in new cars. Tiny windows. Massive hoods. Huge blindspots.
They probably have a frunk up there. But they could have sacrificed a cubic foot and sloped it down for safety and efficiency.
our BYD has a 360 camera which is beyond fantastic
seems likes it designed to entice would be f150 customers.
Pickup buyers want intimidating asshole designs.
*child murderer
You dont need it on ICE either.
You do if you want to evade American passenger car emission and pedestrian safety regulations since it’s a “light truck”.
Somebody not bezos should make small EV trucks
At some point you need to stop letting perfect be the enemy of the good. Bezos is a Slate investor, but that hardly makes a slate something that’s made by Bezos. It doesn’t seem connected to the Amazon ecosystem in any way.
It’s really easy to purity test oneself into complete irrelevance.
They’re not saying to boycott it. They’re saying people at least less evil should be competing.
Human beings are capable of reading text beyond its surface-level dictionary meaning. Are you a human being?
You apparently are not, because you missed the fucking obvious… Ironic. Ironic and sad.
Anything that doesn’t have mandatory telemetry gets my approval. It’s a very low bar to clear but there really aren’t any others trying to do it.
“[Don’t] [let] perfect be the enemy of good” is such an overused and rarely useful phrase, most often little more than a blunt object used to insist that people accept tepid compromises rather than daring to demand genuine solutions.
Not that EVs are bad of course, but EVs for ‘everyone’ as opposed to mass transit isn’t a solution (although of course it is a slightly less bleak shade of shit than ICE vehicles for ‘everyone’), and doing that whilst enabling people who are already benefitting disproportionately from the status quo to benefit ever more dramatically is even less of one.
It’s really easy to compromise oneself into complete irrelevance too, and rather easier to compromise oneself into complicity.
Edit: Not to suggest that the worst of this applies to you at all, it was just the nth time of seeing that phrase used frivolously.
Check out telo - i really like them (wish it were more affordable, but still, if i were to buy a new vehicle, itd be that one once available and vetted)
Telo and Canoo really went back to the drawing board and designed trucks around the skateboard design of an EV. No frunk, front seat as far forward as possible, relatively aerodynamic design. Carbros absolutely hated them and derided them to no end but the only real objection was that they looked so much different from the designs they are accustomed to to, that is, designs tailored to the specific problem of accommodating a large engine block. At some point we’re going to have to leave these designs in the past, it’s just a matter of time.
Hadn’t heard of those before. I like the Canoo design immediately, Telo less so but if they ever made a 2 door with a longer bed I’d probably be into it.
The point of the telo is that it doesn’t need a longer bed. The rear seat folds down and you open a hatch and now you have a 8ft bed in a vehicle the size of a Mini Cooper
I truly appreciate that a company is doing something radically unique and I understand taste is subjective.
That being said: hell no. The Canoo looks like a ski lift gondola with wheels.
Neither will see the light of day. Canoo is already bust and I give Telo 5% chance.
Meanwhile, the past:
Edit: the more I think about it, bringing back the Econoline brand specifically as an electric “cabover” pickup and/or van would be extremely cool.
(It wouldn’t really be a cabover because the thing the cab is over is the engine and an EV doesn’t have that, but you know what I mean.)
Gimme one of those except the cab is over a spacious frunk instead of an engine. Maybe make the frunk a big drawer that can slide out. That’d kick ass and look good doing it.
There’s no room for a frunk; that’s where your legs go. The engine in those things is under the seats and possibly behind the front axle.
[On a related note, that’s why I kinda want a Toyota Previa. With a little modification (only because not all options were offered at the same time/trim level, so you have to swap), you could truthfully tell people you have a mid-engine, supercharged, AWD, manual-transmission vehicle… and then roll up in a minivan!]
I came across this bad boy the other day while looking at kei trucks. It’s an automatic but the right hand drive would add another level in your scenario.
Oh, right, in that case give it a storage tunnel deal. Drawers on each side would be epic, eliminating the need for a leaky inaccessible bed box.
I was thinking the bench seat would just flip up or something like that, but your idea is better. Clearly, I’m not thinking modern enough, LOL!
If telo actually launches a product I’ll eat my hat.
Are you even wearing a hat, sir?
My ruse has been foiled!
You dont think a front that will launch a vehicle into a roll isn’t a great idea?
Yeah I’m worried it’s the Apterra truck
Won’t find any of these under $40k at any dealer
Oh look, Ford is making another shit UV with a pretend bed, so innovative.
Will start at $30k with the mandatory fees, before the dealers “value add” it another $15k.
My 2006 Ranger is the last Ford I will ever own.
“The public doesn’t want EVs” -Ford after fucking up again
Why won’t they make a basic body on frame truck with a 6’ bed? I want it.
One thing I will say is I wager they will have a midgate option, which could promote the bed to vaguely serious compared to a Maverick, in some situations. They have a few times mentioned surfboard in the bed, and double downed in their sort of reveal trailer, where they clearly show it laying down with tailgate up.
May be a decent compromise in a truck market obsessed with crew cabs.
Yeah, I’m staying the fuck away from Ford or at least the next 5 years. They outsourced all of their design shit to AI and then had to higher engineers back.
Great another monster sized truck that needs to do a 3 point turn to get on to my street because they can’t corner worth a shit. Even Maverick - which might be the smallest pick up I can get in the US right now is the size of a large to mid sized pick up.
Man I’d love to have an EV truck that is the size of one of the old Toyota pick-ups from the 90s. Make me a truck that I can see over the roof of and I am sold.
I put money down on a Slate. It was the closest to what I wanted; a simple, no bs, light duty truck that’s electric.
Their site puts it at just a little bigger than 1980’s Toyota pick-up.
Same. Seeing this new Ford Montstosity just makes me appreciate the Slate more.
The upcoming Slate truck appears to be the closest thing to that ideal.
Yea I my eye on the Slate, I’ll wait to see the rollout on that one.
This is nothing close to a “monster size truck”, it’s actually quite small. Its smaller than a Maverick even. And while you can argue its not quite as small as the compact pickups of yore, there’s absolutely no universe where it’s “monster sized”.
A Maverick is almost exactly the same size as a mid-'90s Ranger, which is a compact pickup. The only difference is that it’s got more cab and less bed.
(Source: I parked my Ranger next to a Maverick once.)
The only difference is that it’s got more cab and less bed.
That is literally the problem.
The only difference is that it’s got more cab and less bed.
The only difference is that it’s got more hat and less cattle.
I remember driving my dad’s mid 90’s extended cab ranger and it felt huge. I have a core memory of trying to do a U-turn on a mildly busy street in it and how stressful that was for teenage me.
I should clarify: a Maverick is roughly the same length as my regular-cab, short-bed Ranger.
Looks like a ford maverick EV edition to me.
If it’s electric, why is the hood tall? There should be no need and it is a danger to pedestrian and cyclists.
Well they have been stuffing their covers to obscure the shape, so dont know for sure. Given their bragging about aero, it likely is not as bad as it looks.
The kid killer bumper is a feature, not a bug, apparently
You think pickup buyers give a fuck about pedestrian safety?
I agree for the most part, but not ALL pickup buyers. I actually need a pickup, with 4x4 and a full size bed. It’d be nice to also be able to see where the hell I’m going. I think my only option is to buy a truck from the 1990’s.
I just want a kei car, or functional public transportation, or sidewalks with trees over them.
I think I’m honestly going to do with an ebike. Car prices have gotten insane lately. I no longer travel across the country for work, and it’s just me so I think I could manage regular small trips to the grocery store and back on a bike that I didn’t have to do all the work to propel.
There are quite a few decent options for a cargo e-bike for around $1200
You might also want to check out Chinese electric scooters.
Appreciate it, but I don’t think I’d be able to understand them because I don’t speak Chinese. ^^
There are importers that get every thing translated. They are also pretty simple. Basically the same thing as an electric bike with a different shape.
I was joking about not being able to understand a bike that spoke Chinese, and your response had me picturing a rickshaw with some other guy running along side to translate between me and the poor bastard pulling me around.
Sounds great. Can I get it without spyware?
Fuck no.
State of Charge channel on YouTube did some research (and speculation) and believes the battery will be a 51 kWh LFP.
That would mean the likely range on a mid-sized pickup (depending on the aero, wheel size, tires, etc.) is about 200 miles or less.
It is also confirmed to be 400V architecture. So its likely to be fairly slow charging (compared to the best possible charge speeds in recent EVs).
Informed speculation for those who are interested.
Sounds like it will be a poor road tripper, but on the other hand, I have used a DC charger exactly once in three years of EV ownership, so I personally am not going to fixate on that. Of course I have about 270 miles of range so a shorter range could change that equastion…
I hope not. I’ve taken my extended-range Lightning halfway across the country and back, and in certain areas you need all that range. I can’t imagine having 200 miles or less, but then maybe they’re explicitly not aiming at this being a vehicle you can use for taking the family on a road trip the way that the Lightning is.
The MSRP listed is almost the same price a new Maverick starts at. Now let’s see if they actually produce enough to meet demand to keep it at that MSRP, or if this will be just like when the Maverick launched and the dealers tack on another 15-20k due to scarcity.
I’d consider this for a trade in of my hybrid Maverick, but we will see when it’s fully revealed.
The Maverick is a truck, the mustang comes in a crossover, why even keep the names.
The mustang being thrown on that crossover is still crazy to me.
Could be a bison, but the scarcity on american market would be baked in.
“Childslayer 5000e” would be more fitting
My brain immediately substituted Chrysler for that. Still works.
Gotta keep that grille big and manly, especially to make up for the fact that it’s electric! The lives of a few children are inconsequential compared to that.
How doesn’t it tow, and what is the cargo capacity? To me trucks are about work. I hate 4 door trucks because to get cargo space compromises either length or need space. I had one before and it was not fun to drive but I used that full length bed. I have need to haul a big trailer as well. If it is the family I’ll drive a car. (Spreading of cars, I want a tiny car as they are so much more fun to drive)
Based on the tone of their reveal, I’m not having high hopes for towing. Which would be a shame as I was hoping for a 4,000 pound towing capacity. Clearly targeted at city drivers that aren’t doing a lot of real truck stuff.
Their emphasis on surfboard in the bed tells me they will at least do midgate for more workable bed… At least in fair weather conditions. That might make it ok at hauling wood from the store for projects.
On the carfront, would love for something like a miata, even with a short range.
Downside to towing with an EV is a trailer absolutely kills the range.
Yeah, but my towing is like 95% less than 25 miles. I’ll probably rent a more credible truck if I should ever need to tow more than my vehicles can handle. Or else take the hit and suffer the delay of a commercial charging station or two along the way (and the aggravation of having to unhook and rehook the trailer, but that’s not too bad. Only was ever annoying trying to back up to a trailer that you can’t move the toung by hand and we didn’t have cameras.
Fathom is probably it’s effect range
I really wish they would make an ICE and EV versions of the 1980’s Toyota mini truck, Isuzu Pup, Ranger/S10…
Who remembers Joe Isuzu?
Commercials were so much better back then.
They need to change the safety loopholes on trucks for that to happen.
Ford did do that, from 1998-2002.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Ranger_EV
Too bad they were expensive “compliance cars” with shitty Ni-MH batteries and were mostly leased to fleets.
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