Context: Admiral Patrick replied and included this gem:

And might I add that not one person complained until db0 went internet Karen with his hissy fit because I took his toy away from him.

“Not one person complained about my explicitly obfuscated blacklists! Damn internet Karens making a big deal!”

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      Tells me they’re only cool with the trans folks who shut the fuck up and don’t make him feel any cognitive dissonance over his political fee-fees. Poor wittle baby.

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    Instances should detect when tesseract is the client and return nothing but a fake post explaining why it sucks.

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      My guy is straight up delusional. He really ought to touch grass and come back next year when most people will have forgotten him

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      I suppose you can use the tesseract front end and join his instance. I like well moderated spaces but I don’t appreciate lying to people about it and hiding what’s on the blacklist behind lies about compatibility errors. Can’t trust a guy like that.

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      If you want a nice polite little internet forum where no one talks politics and anyone who expresses a hostile opinion are suppressed why are you here instead of on reddit?

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      He has a special club. To join, you have to find a pair of dirty boots, then lick them clean.

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    Making a blacklist for your frontend is one thing.

    Not telling users about it is an entirely different, more fucked up thing.

    Purposefully disguising block as technical difficulties instead of deliberate blocks is yet another level of different and more fucked up.


    A blacklist that users are informed of and therefore (presumably) consent to when using the software, I could understand. I still don’t entirely agree with it, but I understand.

    But each of the additional levels of fucked-up-ness turn it from understandable to despicable. Absolutely fuck that dev in every which way.

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      Yeah, but seeing myself on line 1208 of the super-secret banned list made me feel far more dangerous and badass than I deserve. I feel like I’m barely a decent person, but I’m still working on it; apparently, that makes me a radical.

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        Do you really run into that many fascists on Lemmy? (As long as you’re not counting tankies as fascist, I guess. Which they’re technically not quite.)

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      And the statement that it wasn’t encrypted, just compressed, is an entirely antagonistic reframing.

      There were multiple block lists. Some right in the open, and one that was stored as a monolithic .dat (I assume the one he called “compressed”).

      The end result is that the second list was obfuscated from not only end-users, but also “admins” hosting it, and developers attempting to work on the project.

      The compression decision only holds if all of the filter lists were compressed and this decision was clearly documented.


      Plus the circumstantial evidence that the “enable toxic mode” option did not in fact disable the filtering that relied on the .dat file.


      I can’t even say that I’m in theory against his openly stated goals of making the fediverse more approachable to normies. But this is not the way to implement it, and it’s not the way to react when called out about it.

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        I can’t even say that I’m in theory against his openly stated goals of making the fediverse more approachable to normies.

        If you want something approachable for normies, Facebook is right there.

        IMO, the fediverse should be weird and stay weird. It doesn’t need to grow huge, it doesn’t need to become a normie website or a household name.

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          I’m more than OK with weird. I love weird. I’m even ok with strong political opinions that I don’t always agree with. I’m fine with Lemmy staying small in the hopes it never ends up becoming an eternal September situation.

          Those aren’t the issue.The problem is the violent rhetoric combined with the intense and constant bad-jacketing. Constant jumping to bad conclusions about other users and arguing against those straw men instead of trying for good faith.

          At least you only jumped to the conclusion that I wanted Lemmy to stop being weird and grow unsustainably popular. I was honestly expecting someone to call me a corporate stooge or that I’m just a butthurt MAGA chud upset that Lemmy leans left-wing, then tell me to kill myself.

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            I was honestly expecting someone to call me a corporate stooge or that I’m just a butthurt MAGA chud upset that Lemmy leans left-wing, then tell me to kill myself.

            Well, I don’t want you to feel disappointed, so here goes: you’re a person who likes money and you’re just upset that my virtue signalling is of higher fidelity! You should go get a coin and put it on your shoulder, so you get alarmed by the sudden clattering when you forget it’s there and it hits the floor!

            Is that enough vitriol for you?

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    not one person complained until db0 went internet Karen with his hissy fit because I took his toy away from him.

    Lmao because nobody knew until db0 pointed it out. Do you really think the community at large would’ve taken it well if they had known?

    I don’t mean this ironically but this person needs to touch grass. Go offline. Disengage.

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      I think he should be set on fire, along with all the other people I’m on Lemmy to say should be set on fire.

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        every day i wake up, log into lemmy, and advocate for setting a select list of people on fire. do people use this platform for something else?

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            Don’t forget to advocate for the Balkanization of the United States so that all of our political problems can be magically solved and I get to bring my passport and go through customs to cross the militarized Mississippi River.

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              Not magic, just bringing back execution for treason, bribery, and betraying the people of your electorate. Simple stuff.

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          do people use this platform for something else?

          Catching up in the latest bean and moth related memes. I’m just surprised we don’t have any memes around moths circling beans.

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    Oh that’s a top tier temper tantrum trying to justify themselves. They got caught and they’re real mad about it.

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      Indeed. Software, especially FOSS software, is all about credit and reputation. And his is now trash. There is literally no one who’s going to trust his software going forward. He will have to change his username and start from scratch and hope nobody figures out who he actually is as he tries to rebuild his reputation somewhere else.

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        They tried to hide it by putting it in a non-plaintext format downloaded at runtime, the actual list isn’t in the source code.

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          Yeah, but … they didn’t think anybody would read the source, see it calling to download that file, and wonder ‘what’s that file for?’

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    Admiral used Blahaj as an example of a “terrorist” instance in their rant.

    This confirms they are just another garden variety fascist trying to sanitize the world around them because they’re too fragile to adapt, and in their psychosis they think everyone else will support their obviously broken mindset.

    Yo admiral fash, if you’re here with us go ahead and add me to your walmart brand palantir system. I stand with LGBTQIA, and rest assured I’d have some violence for you for silencing their voices.

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      They also specifically stated they do not support transphobia

      Maybe the truth is more nuanced than someone you hate is a fascist

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        You do realize by virtue of having a blahaj account, admiral considers you one of these violent extremist leftists he shadowbans, right? You’re literally going to bat for your own oppressor right now.

        Fascists won’t consider you one of the “good ones” no matter how much you defend them, just some food for thought.

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          I disagree with the actions of the person discussed, but i am not going to call them fascist because of something that maybe possibly kinda could make them transphobic, but has multiple possible explanations

          A transphobic fascist wouldnt mention that they prohibit transphobia, at best “forget” to mention it

          Not everything that is bad is fascist

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            Completely agree. There’s plenty of issues everywhere, but they’re not all fascist and fascism isn’t the cause of every issue. To ascribe everything to fascism is simultaneously boiling things down to black and white thinking and dilutes the meaning of fascism.

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        I dunno, seems like ‘but I have a black friend’ or ‘I’m not racist but…’ energy, if they’re dumb enough to think blahaj of all places is a terrorist organization…

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    This has been hands-down some of the best drama I’ve seen on the Fediverse. I assume there’s some sick part of my brain that just loves it when someone doubles down on a bad decision.

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    If all that talk of “tesseract is more than a client, it’s an experience that sands off the rough edges of the fediverse” was true wouldn’t that be prominently featured in the readme and UI? All this “toxic mode” and “extremists” buzzwords make it seem like you’re protecting users, but many users of Lemmy are here exactly because of those “rough edges”, fleeing from the sanitized, censored, unfree mainstream websites. Not because we’re terrorists, but because we believe that saying “billionaires should be hanged” shouldn’t be disallowed. Fuck facebookifying my experience by showing boomer memes and hiding real talk.

    and the remaining 20% just garden-variety spammers and toxic people who scare the normies away.

    Oh man, I’d rather have a list of normies that make the internet slop

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    “Enable Toxic Mode”… lmfao!

    My discussions since joining Lemmy & dbzer0 specifically are so much higher quality than when I used Reddit. People aren’t calling each other stupid, and real discussions seem to be had from both sides of different topics. Maybe the instance I’m in is just well-moderated but I can’t see how this community could be considered toxic or put on a blacklist by anyone other than those who are ignorant and judge books by their covers.

    Some scary words for Patrick (cover your eyes): Anarchy! Transgender! Leftist! LGBT! Equality!

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      People aren’t calling each other stupid

      Uhh, what? Did you even read the comments on this very post?

      Consider the possibility that you’re in a bubble made out of titanium when you’re here.

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        That’s crazy, one random comment out of a hundred?

        What kind of moron do you have to be ah wait you got me now it’s one out of fifty!

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          Yeah okay I take back what I said, people only get called stupid if they deserve it lol

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      You might have missed the troubles, a period when squid was still active and being anti Zionist could and would get you banned across whole instances where pointing out that Joe Biden was clearly losing in their race to be president would result in a several week ban for some of the most important and critical members of the community. The petty authoritarianism really can’t be dismissed, and it’s probably the most important issue facing the project currently.

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      I call people on reddit stupid all the time, but that’s because there are genuinely a lot of stupid people on reddit who appear to be ignorant of their predicament. Unfortunately I only have so much time in a day so the vast majority of stupid redditors carry on blissfully unaware.

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    That post from the creator reads like a 4chan chud who escaped containment and is mad about their stinky diaper. Honestly, having read some of their little hissy fit about being caught, fuck that friendless asshole.

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      nonono, they’re the one that’s normal and well adjusted, it’s like you didn’t even read their post

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        Fuck yeah, I don’t want Nazis interacting with me. Also I’m trans and on blahaj.zone, so if I actually get added to the list I’ll laugh my ass off at that little piss baby since they’d have to go out of their way to see my comment.