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  • It is an American thing that arose from, and persists because of how Americans ‘do’ Christianity.

    As I said in another post, start with Max Weber, and then explore more of the history of how Christianity and Christian Denominations, cults, sects, revival movements, etc, have shaped the country as a whole, in ways that are distinct from how other kinds of Christianity have shaped other countries in the last 300 or so years.

    Like… the whole reason we have the First Amendment, the freedom of religion part… was mainly to make it so that none of the varying Christian Denominations would be able to use the government to censor or outright oppress or murder each other.

    Read the journals of the founding fathers, federalist papers, etc, if you doubt that. See how most of them were Deists, who… just believed in a big creator God, but basically no theology of any particular Christian branch… the neutral middle ground.

    America was largely initially founded by populations of varying kinds of extreme Christian Sects fleeing persecution in Europe… and a lot of our early history is… those sects persecuting and mistreating, or at best, barely tolerating and competetively trying to proselytize, other sects that just over here now, on a different continent… as well as all the indigenous populations… and the imported slaves.



  • Discussing it isn’t an obsession, an obsession would be making your whole personality about it, or basically having that be a primary hobby or something.

    You are doing a less extreme version of the thing that politcal news pundits do against protests:

    Protesting as a concept is fine, but it turns out any protest with views I disagree with? Well they’re protesting wrong.

    If you are reading this as an obsession, I dunno what to tell you, check my comment history and you’ll see this is the first thread I’ve ever mentioned it in, and my older, nearly year old account? Don’t think I ever mentioned it.

    Finally: Yes, female genital mutilation is very often much, much worse, in that it usually entails total removal of the clitoris, which is… basically fundamental to the ability of a woman to experience pleasure and orgasm.

    But that doesn’t mean male genital mutilation is not also bad. The male hood also generally has a much higher concentration of nerve endings than… basically everywhere other than the head.

    And both of these practices fundamentally remove bodily autonomy from a baby/child, and are culturally/religiously done for reasons that ultimately or directly arise from a very paternalistic and authoritarian approach to children as property of parents, and intending to diminish and control their sexual characteristics without consent.

    … But if you don’t wanna have this discussion, feel free to block me, or just… not discuss… this…?


  • … It is an unchallenged remnant of many things, a large chunk of those things having puritanical religious origins.

    And almost all those religions happen to be Jesus-centric.

    Kellogg was just a more recent large scale eh… reinforcment of the norm. He was inspired by his particular Christian views… 7th Day Adventist.

    Like, yes, its not as direct as many modern preachers constantly doing sermons about the virtuosity of circumcision… but even still, I can easily say that the reason the practice is unchallenged is that American Protestant Christians of many, many different Denominations… well they strongly promote traditionalism for the sake of tradition, not questioning authority figures, actively rejecting modern science and medicine.

    Like uh… Max Weber’s christian protestant work ethic explanation of the peculiarities of American culture in regards to attitudes toward work and politics and many other cultural features… isn’t 100% perfect… but it is a very good starting point to understand why American Protestantism is sociologically distinct to other societies.




  • … Unless you’re in Protestant dominated USAmerica, where male genital mutilation remains a widespread, common practice.

    Roughly 80% of American boys/men are circumcized, almost all at birth.

    I can provide either statistics or pics as proof, your choice.

    EDIT: There’s also a whole history of basically junk/fraudulent science in the US being used as a validation of this practice, much of which basically claims that having your whole hood intact makes you more vulnerable to skin infections and STDs.

    This is false, but Americans are quite good at doing motivated reasoning and convincing themselves it is objective critical analysis.


  • Ok.

    You’re right that this could actually be an accurate characterization of the rule, teachers and schools do often implement ridiculous or poorly thought out, inefficient, easily gamed or difficult to enforce rules.

    Back when I was in school, as cell phones were just becoming a widely available thing…

    You set your phone on vibrate, and if it keeps going off, over and over, presumably this means someone or multiple people are urgently trying to contact you for some very important reason.

    At that point you excuse yourself from the class, and look at your call log or texts or your voicemails.

    If it actually is serious, tell your teacher what is going on, and they’ll send you to the office to either wait for someone to arrive or get you to the school therapist or whatever is appropriate.

    Pretty much anything other than that is disruptive behavior.

    Use something like a 3 strike rule before you confiscate a phone on the 3rd strike, and you get your phone back at the end of the school day.

    Ok, so I went diving into the actual reddit thread, and as best I can tell, this is the actual full source document of questions and answers.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rTAVSRU60ScQnQADF2WRAPKQFWRfYxM1B-mZCC1B_SA/mobilebasic

    Going off of many other questions and answers, it appears the policy does confiscate a phone at the moment it is being used outside of permitted times and settings, and is then returned to the student at the end of the day for infraction 1, and all subsequent infractions require the parent to pick up the phone after confiscation.

    A 2 strike rule set, I guess.

    … However:

    Anytime an official response is ‘Technically, yes’… yeah, they fucked up in the construction of their rule set.

    … It would seem to me that a straightforward resolution to this problem would be that… in the event that infraction 2 occurs at the end of the day, just… confiscate the phone, and require a parent to pick it up, either at the end of that same school day, or after a 24 hour period if they really want to have a mandatory confiscation time as part of the punishment.

    Part of the point of requiring a parent to pick up the phone is to basically mandate actual parental awareness of the issue, and they are already doing that…

    So, infraction 2 escalates by now requiring the parent to pick up the phone, wheras infraction 1 does not.

    I would think the escalation to getting a parent to pick it up would be a sufficient punishment, and the idea of some kind of… mandated minimum confiscation time scheme for the phone seems stupid, so long as the parent can pick up the phone after school has ended for the day.

    But at the same time, there does appear to be some kind of admin acknowledged idea that… a phone would have to be essentially volunteered to be reconfiscated when a student returns on a subsequent day… which seems to me to be nonsensical and unenforceable without a mandated search of the kid… they could always just not bring the phone (or any phone) on day 2, and then you’d have to verify they are not lying… which is ass backwards presumption of guilt untill proved innocent that results in an unwarranted violation of their rights, even though they are complying with the general intent, the spirit of the rules.

    I cannot reverse engineer the actual precise ruleset from this alone lol.

    Finally, as an aside … much of the reddit thread this is from make the arguement that cell phones shouldn’t be banned because what if school shooting.

    So… 1, … all public schools… have… landline phones. They can dial out.

    Ah, but what if the lines are all cut, or people can’t reach them?

    2, … then just mandate that phones are not 100% literally physically banned… you just keep them off, or on silent, or on vibrate, and don’t use them during class.






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    … Or, you could swap out only the SIM card, have a new number, and the rest of the phone is literally exactly the same.

    Most kids these days use social media apps for messenging and general time wasting in class… all they’d have to do is update their phone number with the major apps they use before they come into school the next day… all the contacts are in the apps themselves, not the OS’s contact list.

    Either way, you’re still missing the point that the kid’s entire question line is literally a non sequitur, a misdirect, a distraction via tangential discussion.

    You are falling into the trap of bothering to engage in the actual ship of Theseus ‘what actually constitutes the same phone?’ argument that the teacher has.

    The teacher, and you, do not realize that that is irrelevant, and were this some kind of debate bro / debate club debate, you would both have fallen for a rhetorical trap, wasting time arguing over something not germaine to the actual topic.

    It doesn’t matter if the kid has millionaire parents and legitimately purchased and owned a brand new phone with a live phone plan every single day, and brought it to school.

    Or if the kid stole phones, borrowed someone elses phone and was caught with it.

    The rule is ‘no phones in class upon pain of confiscation’.

    Whether or not it is literally or philosophically the same phone, or a legitimately owned phone, or that particular student’s legitimately owned phone has absolutely no relevance.

    … Its like how if you bring alcohol, drugs, or a gun to a school… whether or not they are your items doesn’t matter, whether or not its a single shot derringer or a full assault rifle doesn’t matter.





  • My FNV is through Steam… but… i think Limo does support GOG… I… would think you would, yes, have to set up your own filepaths, point it properly to where the game dir is, and it… should work?

    You can launch a game from Limo, like, I do test runs of that in desktop mode on my Deck…

    But the way the deployer system works is that you click deploy… and the even if you launch the game from some other way, like via Steam, in game mode on the deck, or… presumably via Heroic… it just now is the modded game. To revert, undeploy in Limo, and then either play vanilla, or swap to another modset profile and deploy that.

    For NVSE, I just literally did the old school method of go into the real game dir, rename the main exe to .exe.old, and then rename the NVSE exe to the proper FONV game exe’s name.

    That and manually install the dlls and other files that come with NVSE into the real dir.

    This isn’t much of a problem with older games, but with newer games, that method would potentially be undone by ongoing update patches.

    This is the kind of ‘some mods you just have to manually install’ thing… but in fairness… most of the time those mods are the same way on Windoes as well, unless some kind of mod manager goes far out of their way to specifically support that exact mod.