• Stop Forgetting It@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    “Tuna fish” is a phase used primarily for canned tuna, but not for the live fish or things like tuna steak. It’s because when canned tuna was created in the US in the early 1900’s people who were not right next to the sea (like the majority of the US) did not know what “tuna” was. Firstly, the word is a of Spanish origin and secondly, its a salt water only fish. So in order to sell this to middle America, which was where most of the consumers were at the time but was also made up of people who have never seen the ocean, they added the word “fish” to show like other tinned fish that was commonly purchased: codfish, bluefish, and whitefish, this is also a fish and that is what you can expect when you open this can.

  • There’s no one single reason, but the top theories:

    1. Tuna oil was a thing before “tuna fish”. Yes, people could have said “tuna” but they didn’t. That’s language for you. People say “ATM machine” and “PIN number”, too.
    2. “Tuna fish” has a slightly sing-song pattern to the stressed/unstressed syllables that probably contributed
    3. For whatever reason, “tuna fish” tends to refer to canned tuna, whereas “tuna” can include fresh (or frozen) tuna.

    It’s… just how language evolves.

    I think, however, that “tuna fish” is slowly dying out in favour of just “tuna”. As a 50 year old, anecdotally I have seen the usage decrease in my lifetime.

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        I vaguely rember Catherine the Great*, but I dont remember anything about a horse.

        I am ready to learn though

        *

        Was she after Henry the 8th? The first Queen to rule without a king by her side?

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        I thought it was Mr. Hands, the aerospace engineer, that made us require that distinction.

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          What was that acronym he came up with, something about I don’t need a bucket cuz the horse is just the right height 🤯

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            Honestly, I try to avoid knowing any more about him than I can. I know a bunch of meta details, but didn’t dig that far into it.

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      For this one could it be horse back riding because people also used to have horse carts ? Unless in other countries it’s different lol

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      Chai may mean tea, but since it is different from the typical English tea ‘chai’ was modified to be an adjective for tea denoting the difference. Because that’s how language works.

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    Well, where I live, Tuna is also a cactus. Prickly pear is often called tuna. So yeah, tuna (fish) and tuna (fruit) can need disambiguation.

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        Florida. It’s this plant, nopales are the leaves, tuna is the fruit. Also the whole plant and the fruit are called prickly pear, but when I see it for sale (as food), it’s Tuna. Nopales taste sort of like green peppers to me.

        Opuntia - Wikipedia https://share.google/l2Ax80KhUVxMh7r7A

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          That’s actually really fascinating and neat.

          But I’m also legally required to make fun of Florida and use that as the reason you must clarify tuna is a fish.

  • ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org
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    A Czech reporter’s name is Jan Tuna. Please keep saying “tuna fish” for his* sake.

    * he/him, Jan is a common male name here derived from John, the female counterpart is Jana

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      “hey Jan, I’m watching some peertube chef and he’s talking about ‘bluefin tuna’! Did you used to be punk in college?”

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    We have to specify so that Jessica Simpson doesn’t get confused with Chicken.

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    When I hear tuna fish I think stuff in the can. When I hear Tuna I think the filet. I know that’s just me.

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    I think it’s mostly for the dad joke:

    You can tune a piano, but you can’t tune a fish.