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Breaking: ICE is afraid that Americans will start exercising their second amendment rights to protect their first and fourth amendment rights from a tyrannical pedofile protecting uncontrolled secret police
That’s why civilization exists you dumb fucks. You start tearing it down and violence is all that’s left.
MAGA: We broke society, so now we can point at a broken society as an excuse for violence.
Eh, can’t say I agree with Thomas Hobbes on this. ICE is acting in the exact opposite of the state of nature, they’re the violent arm of the sovereign
That’s a blatant misunderstanding of what a Hobbesian sovereign is. According to Hobbes, a sovereign is a form of body politic derived from the consent of the governed. People form civilizations, understanding that by abiding by common agreements they can mutually improve the conditions and circumstances of their lives. Everyone is safer when we agree not to kill each other, and anyone who violates that norm loses the protection of the social contract. Hence, capital punishment as a penalty for murder.
What ICE is doing is violating the social contract and acting without the consent of the governed (bypassing congressional approval/oversight, ignoring established laws and constitutional rights, etc.). In effect, they’re regressing us back to the conditions of the state of nature in which “might makes right” and “survival of the fittest,” conditions which the social contract originated in order to overcome.
That Goebbels-looking-ass dude literally said “might makes right” on a live TV interview.
Which is why I won’t feel any sympathy for him when someone finally gives him his comeuppance
Time to show them just how fit they really are.
And why thr Geneva conventions exist.
We live in a society
I’m not sure that’s true anymore.
Was your comment intended to suggest a better term than “civilization” was “society”? That is probably a valid correction and I need to brush up on my vocabulary before I have angry anti fascism outbursts on the interwebs.
ICE was the reason why I did not visit the US. Now it is ICE and the unbelievable violation of privacy at the border.
The collection of biometrics all over the world that went from being something you needed at least serious suspicion of to being extremely common and routine for literally everything is just shit.
Exactly this, I was supposed to be in the US for work. I had everything prepared and then this shit show started.
I can’t see how any reasonable jury would convict.
That’s either a violent thug that believes they cannot be held accountable for anything they do. Or it’s someone PRETENDING to be that ICE agent and hoping to benefit from that same lack of accountability. In either case, your life is at risk if you let them get close.
Well, they should be worried.
It’s almost as if they’re projecting since they know that it’s standard practice for them to jump in front of moving vehicles so they have an excuse to open fire and claim self defense.
They’re literally accusing people of what they have been doing for at least a decade now.
ICE officials worried citizens may treat them the same way they treat people. Welcome to bizarro land.
Shoot ICE. On sight.
If they’re just shooting random moms in minivans then nobody is safe.
Yes every ice/police vehicle is considered hostile.
We should call it the Good Initiative
That’s exactly what should be happening regardless.
Your constitution means nothing it seems people in power wipe their arses with it and citizens barely defend it handing over more and more freedoms every year. Ice clearly isn’t about that they sold it to you as.
I seriously doubt you’re making it to the jury stage of the trial if you open fire on police
Renee Good didn’t open fire on police and still didn’t make it to a jury trial. When unarmed, peaceful people are executed as though they’re violent protesters, there’s no longer any real reason to be unarmed, peaceful people.
This federal government wants people to open fire on police. This would justify a further police state, martial law, and cancelling the midterm elections that they’re definitely on pace to lose disastrously. Natural causes is taking its sweet time, but even if it weren’t I don’t think the next guy would change a thing unless his owners told him to.
Protesters also don’t deserve to be executed
Agreed, but they’ll try to argue that violent protesters could kill thousands of innocent people, so killing them is the morally right thing to do. Here, they’re arguing that Renee Good was a domestic terrorist that was using her vehicle as a weapon to try to kill the ICE guy, even though it’s blatantly obvious that that’s not what was happening in the slightest.
I’m just saying that they’re escalating. They’re hoping that people either stay home because they’re afraid of being executed just for being outside, or retaliate and permit them to escalate further. And even an extreme retaliation will not eradicate the fascism, so I’m not sure what the right move is now that we’re at this point.
They will escalate regardless of what we do. They already have been.
How’s work?
They got us shooting women now
How’s the pay?
Well there’s a bonus if you’re wanting in
How’s the hours?
We shoot them in the daylight
And then we steal them away in the dark of the night
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible. They make violent revolution inevitable
- JFK, 1962
ICE aren’t police
There is zero ideology gap between cops and ice.
Law enforcement then?
They are not that either.
Nazi Punks Fuck Off.
Trump is the biggest threat to the world since hitler fr, americans should strike, put the american economy on pause so they can DEMAND the dissolution of this terror regime. And for all the other basic human rights they deserve. They literally only care about the economy, so just make a deal with everyone to stop working for one day as a start, set up strike funds.
