The 24-year-old was born in Phoenix and is a member of Arizona’s Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community. She was booked into the Polk County Jail in Des Moines, Iowa, where she currently lives, in September for allegedly driving with a suspended license. Jacobo was scheduled to be released on Nov. 11, but what should have been a routine process was complicated and delayed by an erroneously issued ICE detainer. She was ultimately allowed to leave just before 4:30 a.m. on Nov. 12.
Yeah, sure, a “mistake.” Only because they didn’t get away with it.
Let’s make no mistake ourselves: they deported hundreds of thousands of Native/Mexican-American US citizens a century ago, and they are absolutely itching to do it again.
Eh, I don’t think they give a shit about the natives to be honest. There isn’t enough of them to warrant the attention.
This is just regular old racism. Anyone with a slight tan to their skin can be whatever the authorities decide they are. Once that is normalized they can expand it to include other ‘undesirables’ until eventually everyone is included.
“we’ve got an illegal Mexican here!” “I’m very clearly white” “Mexican with vitiligo here!”
I mean they’re actually are white Mexicans out there.
Blasphemy!! /s
They don’t know that word. It would just be a white Mexican ( or the pejorative)
Eh, I don’t think they give a shit about the natives to be honest.
Jews were only 1% of the pre-Nazi German population. Trans people are only 1% of the US population.
Nazi germany very vocally targeted Jewish people. Current IS administration is not. We don’t need to make up targeted racism when general racism explains it and has significant evidence
The first piece of legislation passed by the newly formed California government was the “Chinese Exclusion Act” which among other things,
“prohibiting all immigration of Chinese laborers for 10 years… The Act also denied Chinese residents already in the US the ability to become citizens and Chinese people traveling in or out of the country were required to carry a certificate identifying their status or risk deportation. It was the first major US law implemented to prevent all members of a specific national group from immigrating to the United States, and therefore helped shape twentieth-century immigration policy.”
Let’s not just limit it to native Americans and Californios(native Mexicans who lived in California before it was stolen), that racist core of the US has been there since day 1. A contributing factor to a lot of the westward migration in the US was that “lower ladder” white immigrant national groups like the Irish, Italian and others who were bottom rung on the east coast could move West and finally have someone further down the ladder to kick.
This is one of the sustaining reasons for racism in general used to manipulate groups who feel tenuous control and power in a society; give them a line about an “other” group, tell them they’re better than that group and wham, you have folks ready to kill to preserve their perception of a precious advantage in society–when of course in reality they’re no better and in fact worse off as the weak fall or rise together.
If you are interested in learning more, the history of California is incredibly useful as a proxy to understand why certain legislation, perceptions and other things still alive in the US that propagate racism exist. Look at immigration quotas the US sets for different nations for example; much, much higher in predominantly white, western European nations while Asia (see California influence), despite MUCH larger populations are allowed lower numbers of immigrants/refugees, visas, etc.
wait…they kept her in jail for 2 fucking months just for a suspended license?
“routine process” 2 FUCKING MONTHS FOR A SUSPENDED LICENSE!?! and the article is all “yeah but because of ICE she had to spend ONE MORE DAY in jail”
fuck all this shit. US, get your shit together man.
OP linked to a shitty article. I just read another that said it was for probation violation and the license thing.
there’s a solid chance it’s sovcit nonsense
these guys are AMAZING at turning what ought to be a citation and a fine into a full blown arrest + jail time via being generally disruptive, uncooperative, wasting the court’s time on complete legal nonsense and overall idiocy.
There’s -several- youtube channels making a living out of reporting and commenting these cases.
I mean Native American tribes are literally sovereign nations within the US so I’ll give them a pass if that is what it was.
Regardless please explain under what circumstances it is necessary to not only take someone’s freedom for 2 months but to also have the tax payers pay for their detainment all over a suspended license?
This whole long drawn out argument you two had could have been completely skipped if you two had read the article. She was in jail for violating her probation from a previous sentence.
I was more so arguing against his idea that being difficult with the police means you deserve 2 months or more in jail. That’s just ludicrous
I don’t know if the SovCit BS I see posted is real but I can believe it. It’s not just being obstinate but all sorts of ways they can talk themselves into trouble.
Let’s take the obvious issue of ID. You are required to identify yourself and as a driver you must have proof. But what happens if a SovCit doesn’t recognize that and either refuses or gives a made up ID, registration, license plate?
Or if you don’t recognize the authority of police or of the court, you could easily talk yourself into the maximum penalty for the actual infraction. And if you’re not going to spend money on a lawyer for a court you don’t recognize, you won’t have anyone to tell you to “just shut up”
It’s not necessary to keep them 2 months in jail, they do it to themselves.
Normal people, when they get arrested by a police officer, provide their ID, take whatever citation, pay the fine, and then move on.
Meanwhile, the typical interaction with a sovtard goes like this
Police officer “Hello sir, we stopped you because you were over the speed limit, and it seems your plates are expired, can you provide me with id, drivers license, proof of insurance?”
Sovtard: <insert nonsense about traveling not in commerce, maritime law, morrocan kings, etc.>
Police officer: “Please provide me with id, drivers license, proof of insurance, so I can give you a citation and we go our merry way”
Sovtard: <insert nonsense about not contracting, black’s law dictionary, judges are a corporation, etc.>
Police officer: “You are legally obliged to provide these, if you don’t, it’s obstruction, and you’ll be arrested”
Sovtard: <insert nonsense about bonds, secret bank accounts with trillions of dollars, etc.>
Police officer: <arrests sovtard, searches car, finds ID - runs it: no insurance, suspended license, etc.>
This goes on and on and on in front of judges the same pattern applies. Challenge jurisdiction every 15 minutes, refuse legal counsel, refuse to plead, ‘I am the living Man’, constantly interrupt the court’s proceedings, fuck up at every corner, waste time with, general incompetence, general stupidity, ‘I am not the allcaps representation of my name’, etc etc
This is why these idiots spend 2+ months in jail over a citation and a ticket. They watched a youtube or tiktok retardfluencer selling them legal nonsense, bought it hook line and sinker. Some even go and surrender their driver’s license if they had any, cancel their insurance, buy “PRIVATE not for commerce” license plates.
It’s full blown stupidity.
i think what you’re doing here is rationalizing our fucked up legal system.
2 months over a suspended license isn’t unheard of… if it was suspended over a dui, she was on probation, or she had multiple offenses….
and of course, her skin is brown.
them sovcits are dumb but they’re not really that commonAmazing your wrote several paragraphs and not once did you justify the cost or length of 2 months in jail.
Sorry but being annoying, wrong, and stupid isn’t a good reason
There’s nothing that justifies them spending 2 months in jail.
It’s a thing they put themselves through. They get themselves arrested for obstuction, and then delay everything by continuing the sovcit nonsense.
I’ve watched videos of sovcits somehow managing to make their arraignment (a normally short procedure where you simply get told the alleged charges, the potential penalties, get asked if you understand them, and what do you plead, and whether you wish to proceed for a jury or a bench trial) last hours (plural)
Sovcits usually decide to go for jury trial (because you can’t make law from the bench or something…), which, well, take time. Time they spent in jail, because they were arrested.
Yeah still not very convincing. Can you demonstrate they were also stinky? Then I may consider your point.
But in all seriousness, there’s no reason to keep them. In prison. Release them from jail and if they don’t show up issue a warrant. This isn’t a big deal at all. I’d rather someone get away with having a suspended license than spending tax payer money on this.
Plus let’s back up for a second. We have no evidence that this is even what happened in this case. You got on your soap box rather quickly
I said “solid chance they might just be a sovcit.”, then had to explain to people what a sovcit is and why they spend stupid amount of time in jail for things nobody should spend time in jail.
She might very well not be a sovcit. I wouldn’t bet on it though. You don’t spend that long in jail over a suspended license unless you do something excessively stupid in the process.
But in all seriousness, there’s no reason to keep them. In prison. Release them from jail and if they don’t show up issue a warrant.
Sovcit are not in jail because of the suspended license, but for the obstruction charges. They then stay in there because legal things take time, and the fact they do everything you shouldn’t be doing if you want to get out of jail.
It’s stupid, but it is what it is.
Yes but… they could just hand them the sitation and let them go at the arraingment. They don’t have to spend tax payer money and keep them in jail. They do that part out of spite.
I’ve watched videos of sovcits somehow managing to make their arraignment (a normally short procedure where you simply get told the alleged charges, the potential penalties, get asked if you understand them, and what do you plead, and whether you wish to proceed for a jury or a bench trial) last hours
Sovcits usually decide to go for jury trial (because you can’t make law from the bench or something…) over something that’s a ticket, which, well, take time. Time they spent in jail, because they were arrested for obstruction in the first place. When they get released on bond, they violate their bond and don’t show up in court and then get issued a bench warrant and end up in jail.
Sovcits do everything that can be done to end up in jail, and then act shocked when that happens.
Of course not all sovcits are the same. But I have heard the real ones are no fan of these youtube wannabe sovcits. That said. Sounds like they are playing on the judges egos. There is a default answer to all of those initial questions if the person refuses to answer with y/n or guilty/not… The judge doesn’t have to lets it last for hours. But from my and others I knows experience with judges and jury duty, judges seem to be more than happy to waste time telling people how they should be respected and such. I am sure not all judges are like that of course. But they seem to be hell bent to establish thier power over people. Even at conferences outside the courthouse. The job doesn’t seem to attract a humble bunch.
It’s not about ego.
Rulebooks that pertain to court things are hundreds of pages long in a bid to be fair and equitable for everyone. Things are done in a way for a reason, you can’t just yolo justice. At an arraignment, the judge needs to determine a couple things:
- that you are who the person the prosecutor actually brings to justice
- that you know your rights
- that you understand what you are being charged with
- that you understand what are the potential penalties
- what do you plead
- a bunch more stuff
This is to prevent shenanigans
if the first step already takes 30 minutes because you refuse to even give your name, then when you finally ID yourself, you then proceed to constantly interrupt, delay, whinge, contest, refuse to understand, be a living man of morroco, etc, all the way when it’s time to plead and you spend an extra 45 minutes being like “I wish to be left alone” instead of pleading… then yeah. Either the judge takes the time for you to run out of bullshit and the arraingment ends with you arraigned, or they have a full docket and will send you to jail for contempt and try again the next day.
Those “Private Not for Commerce” plate make me laugh every time I see them. I work in freight and every time someone shows up with those to pick up their freight I can’t give them their freight due to DOT.
They also almost always don’t have a valid license of any kind as well, which means that even if they did show up in a valid vehicle I can’t release it because I can’t confirm the identity of whose picking it up.
I’m paid by the hour so I have a right proper giggle every time explaining it to them.
Or it could be the normal nonsense Native Americans still deal with.
being generally disruptive, uncooperative, wasting the court’s time on complete legal nonsense and overall idiocy.
Which one of the above are jailable offenses?
being disruptive and uncooperative (eg, failing to provide ID, license, proof of insurance) during a traffic stop will land you in jail for obstruction. It’s the sovcit play. This is how they end in jail.
being disruptive in court is also a good way to end up in jail for contempt
They then spend more and more time in them by doing the whole time wasting thing, refusing legal counsel, bringing up fake legal rulings, etc.
It did say suspended license. My understanding is that to claim sovcit you can’t ever have a license. But that might be specific to my state. We have some of the real sovcits. They were sovcits before the internet existed. Very very few of them left though.
My understanding is that to claim sovcit you can’t ever have a license
Since sovereign citizen is a baseless concept there can’t really be any requirements.
My understanding is that to claim sovcit you can’t ever have a license
your first mistake is trying to understand. Do not understand, never stand under.
Sovtard joke asides, it doesn’t actually matter to these single-braincelled organism. They just decide laws don’t apply to them. Some go even all the way to get their driving licenses revoked.
Yeah, this is true of anyone making life changes based on the advice of youtubers. Most people are just trying to take control of thier life from all the constraints society and capitalism puts on them to extract as much gdp from them as possible. If thier lives were stable and fullfilling, they wouldn’t feel the need to listen to the youtubbers.
Deported to where? She’s got more right than anyone to be here. Where is the group of Natives suiting up and deporting these ICE idiots?
Any country that will take the money.
She was booked into the Polk County Jail in Des Moines, Iowa, where she currently lives, in September for allegedly driving with a suspended license
September through November this person was held in jail before ICE showed up.
She was in jail for all that time for " violating probation and allegedly driving with a suspended license."
ICE showed up the day before she was supposed to be released on the November 11th and ordered her held pending deportation. She was released the next day when they got their heads out of their ass and figured out they were after someone else.
“sorry the content is not available in your region“
Too embarrassing for publication outside the US.
It’s probably a GDPR thing. Cheaper to region lock than implement the proper controls.
It’s pretty depressing as an American that most news websites choose to not be available in Europe because they cannot pass basic privacy requirements.
Of all the rightfully deserved criticism Florida gets, I’ll give them this, they don’t arrest for most driving infractions. I got a couple driving while license suspended tickets and they got dismissed once I got it sorted out. Meanwhile the state I moved to arrested me for failing to pay a seatbelt ticket! And what’s crazy is that I always use my seatbelt, I was just pulling out of the parking lot and was in the middle of putting it on when I got flashed.
I heard during the Mc Donald’s event today Trump called out a person that escaped Cuba to come to America. Does that mean he came into the country legally or no? Is he safe to due to some other laws I don’t understand.
I’m OOTL. McDonald’s event?
McDonald’s Impact Summit
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