I have a hard time keeping up with all the names in American politics so I went ahead and looked this guy up
Cuomo served as the 56th governor of New York from 2011 until his resignation in 2021 following numerous reports of sexual harassment.
This is like the third sentence on his Wikipedia page.
It’s why centrists love him so dearly. They think that “just do what republicans do but less” wins votes.
It demonstrably does. Voting Americans are deeply conservative. Conservative Americans are voting.
Leftists are also voting, when they have candidates and policies on the ballot. But both parties are pretty openly against the leftists.
Nah, they don’t. They sometimes pretend they do, but they don’t. They sit around, waiting for magical leftist candidates to appear from thin air, but they never vote for them locally, they never vote for them in primaries, so they never had a chance to not vote for them in generals.
Hell, Bernie Sanders lost popular vote in primaries twice, once to pokemon-go-to-the-polls corporate lady, and once for nothing-will-fundamentally-change old guy.
Leftist in america either don’t exist an mass, or don’t vote, or have no idea how political process in their country works, and I let you decide what is worse.Yes they do. Leftists get votes all the time. Sanders, AOC, Sawant, Mamdani, etc all get tons of votes. Go look at the numbers.
Sanders lost the primaries because the DNC openly screwed him over, not because he didn’t get votes.
Sanders lost both presidential primaries he was in. AOC is a member of House of Representatives. Sawant is on a city council. Mamdani is the only example in recent history of a progressive candidate beating a conservative candidate in direct primaries. I struggle to think of someone else from your “etc” list who also did that. Maybe there is someone. In any scenario, the list is very short.
openly screwed him over
“The sun was in my eyes” is also a good excuse. In any regard, he didn’t get the votes. The DNC was also in his eyes, but he didn’t get the votes, that’s what is important here. If he did, if he would get more votes than other candidates, the situation might be different, and the excuse that DNC didn’t go with him even though he’s more popular might hold the water, but that’s not what happened. What happened is he got less votes than other candidates.
If you voted for Sanders at least as much as NY democrats voted for Mamdani (which is not that much actually, he barely got 10% more votes than the criminal he was against), the DNC would not be able to stop him, but you didn’t, so they didn’t even have to.
So your argument is “Nu uh. The people who continuously get more votes don’t really count” ?
lol, k
Conservatives won’t vote for a pale imitation.
They do, demonstrably. Conservatives from conservative party, conservatives from democratic party, all of them do.
They do, demonstrably.
Then show your work. How many conservatives preferred harris over trump? Which of harris’ actions brought them in?
Hint: Zero. It’s fucking zero. You’re advocating moving to the right because you want to move to the right and no other reason at all.
That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that there are conservative democrats who prefer more conservative democrats over progressive anyone, and there are conservative republicans who don’t want to vote for Trump but wouldn’t vote for any progressives either. The work that demonstrates that is every single democratic primaries, and all the conservative ones.
Also, I am explicitly not advocating for moving to the right, if you need me to spell it out. I don’t think it’s a good decision morally, and I don’t think it’s a good decision politically.
What I’m advocating for, is for progressives to participate in democracy, and not wait for democracy to happen to them. Conservatives vote more than progressives. Democratic party consistently interprets it as a call to move to the right, that’s how democracy works. That’s bad. The only way to fix that is to outvote conservatives.
You didn’t make it to the deaths he was covering up in nursing homes yet?
Not just covering up but iirc he had a direct role in them via a policy that forced nursing homes to accept covid patients to free up hospital beds, leading to a high number of nursing home outbreaks.
Then this was followed by ignoring or avoiding questions about it during his daily covid press release updates.
Yeah, I thought there was more to it, but I couldn’t remember what and didn’t want to spend the time looking it up, lol.
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Yeah, a lot of people here seem to have proverbial goldfish memories. A candidate can do something really bad a couple years ago, run again, and people are like “oh they seem cool”. I don’t know what it is.
He can’t help it - he’s Italian!
Yesterday, here in Mexico, we received the most recent stats on poverty. After electing a progressive president, in charge from 2018 to 2024, the first progressive in ~80 years, with an actual leftwing social policy, almost 13.5 millions of Mexicans are out of poverty. That’s 10% of our population, even in the middle of the COVID-19 pandemic. Don’t be afraid, New Yorkers, I mean, you are fucking New Yorkers for Christ sake!
Yeah, but the rich Mexicans aren’t rich enough, and that’s un-American!
De dónde eres? Saludos desde GDL.
Cuomo sounds like an absolute weasel.
There’s a reason for that.
He’s the quintessential establishment Democrat. Basically Republican Lite. It’s people like him, the Clintons, Obama, Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, Jeffries, etc. who allowed MAGA to grow and steal our country, while they all scratched their asses.
If it walks like a weasel and talks like a weasel, it’s probably a politician who takes billionaire money.
and the billionaires are going to try to scorched earth him. Like we are supposed to be mad at a rent controlled apartment when Cuomo and Trump are rapists
Bernie dropped his grey nutz in cuomo’s mouth.
Nice
I hope this guy isn’t another Fetterman. Talks a good talk but once elected turns into someone else.
Fetterman had a lot of baggage already going in against Oz. He is a good case study on what happens when a run for office is based on opposition alone. He was elected to not be Dr Oz, so that’s what he is.
Zohran on the other hand’s main (and only) baggage is are the actual policies he is promoting and supporting. Which is hugely different. But at the same time that means Zohran’s actual safety is a real concern.
Zohran comes from wealth. That’s baggage in my book. I mean, I still hope he wins, but wealth has done us no favors.
I’d say he comes from intelligensia more than wealth, which is somewhat adjacent I’ll concede for the sake of it.
However I wouldn’t saddle a politician with their origin so much as things within their capacity to control, like their (proposed) policies and actions.
As an adult he did social work and made silly music, neither of which are politically problematic.
Don’t fret. I don’t doubt this man at all. There are other “progressives” I’m more concerned about.
Every person who’s compromised is pro Israel.
I wouldn’t put your hopes on Zohran but for now he’s done an excellent job of not budging and instead arguing his way out of traps. Let’s see how far it can get him.
As long as he doesn’t have a brain injury, he’ll be okay. No other progressives have flipped like that.
yup! that’s shit, but politics is politics… i’d probably say the same: an nyc mayor has very little that they can change about foreign policy
so what are you gonna be? a populist that says a bunch of shit that you can’t actually change or won’t address the issue, or someone who talks about policy and what you’re going to do if elected in concrete terms?
no point in pissing off israel and having them spend against you just to protect their soft power if you can’t even do anything about it
… and everyone now knows cuomo is the israel shill, and mamdani supports palestine… he’s won that conversation already. nothing to be gained by further pushing in that direction
Nah man. Going “moderate” would be a huge mistake. AIPAC is always going to finance whoever is the most loudly pro-Zionist. People don’t want careful political maneuvering, they want firm principles.
nyc mayoral races uses ranked choice voting
don’t make the mistake of applying first past the post logic to ranked choice… the difference in ballot mechanics has a really huge difference: ranked choice leads to nicer, more moderate elections because it’s bad to be extreme (and i’m not saying being anti-israel is extreme) - you don’t just need to capture “your base” (what we usually call the “primary vote” or “first preference” in RCV systems), but you also need to worry about 2nd, 3rd etc runoff votes… you need to be generally likeable to all your opponents voters too, because those votes matter
But if you dilute your politics in order to win… then what’s the point of winning? It won’t even be “you” that’s won, it will be some gray, moderate shadow of yourself. Anyway, I think my point is still relevant no matter the election style. There are a whole lot of people out there that put a high value on (perceived) integrity. Trump and Bernie are good examples where they brought in a lot of voters who thought “I may not agree with him on a lot of things, but he tells it like it is and he maintains his positions, even when they aren’t popular”.
nobody with extreme views should win (and i do not think mamdanis views are extreme - they’re what people want!) anyone who wins an election to represent people should represent the views of the people, and that absolutely means being moderate: not in the toxic way that it’s come to mean in the US, but truly government should, as one of its primary missions, be a moderated representation of the constituents it serves: it should never (as much as possible) represent only a single group
How do you tell the difference between the kind of ‘moderate’ that you want, and the ‘toxic’ kind we have in the US? I don’t want to “split the difference” within a population that skews fascist. If opposing a genocide is extreme (it apparently is, in the US), then call me extreme.
HAH! Suck it Cuomo
No fear! Liz Warren and Obama are on the job!
But who are they going to drone strike?
Meanwhile in middle america: THAT NEW YORK PERSON IS A COMMUNIST! HE KILLS BABIES!!!
good thing he doesn’t have to run in middle america, just new york, since this is for a political position in new york
Unless something’s gone horribly wrong and his team’s accidentally filed the paperwork for a run for mayor of New York, Missouri…
sadly this seems to be high profile enough that national politics has gotten involved, which means people’s families and friends from elsewhere are talking about it… that’s a powerful
ideally, yes, it’d be just people from in the region being represented would have their opinions and everyone else would shut up… but that’s not going to happen!
just like i’m australian and i don’t shut up trying to convince many americans that their political opinions and climate are largely immoral, unrealistic, or (and?) abnormal
Even Bernie stopped fighting billionaires, at least he’s trying to prop up the youth.
So does OP not hate Sanders anymore, or has OP started hating Mamdani too?
Three Trump candidates in NYC.
Mamdani fucks.
