neither accessible nor feasible for the average computer user.
Absolute hogwash. Learning like five short words is absolutely not unfeasible for any literate person, if a user can’t do that, you can be sure they aren’t actually an average user, they can’t do anything with gui either. And probably need help tying their shoes.
A two years old child can learn 5 short words. A grown up can write them on a sticky note and plop them on a screen.
It’s not either-or. You can install KDE on Arch with one button in the archinstall you mentioned, and it will be a GUI based distro, you can happily live moving your mouse around the coloured buttons if that’s your fancy.
as a parent it is still not your job to make it easy, yeah?
As a parent it’s your job to make it safe. They will do it, you can’t stop it. But if you allow it, if any problem arise they will not hesitate to ask for help immediately, and that’s the most important.
You can provide them contraception and morning pills and not rely on their teenage hormone filled brains to get it themselves. If they’re doing it in your home, they will less likely to do it while drunk under the bridge.
It is similar to alcohol situation. If your teenager wants to drink alcohol, it’s better you give them guidelines and help, and it’s better they get a six pack of beers with their friend in your home, than a bottle of moonshine with their 29 years old buddy Craig they met in a toilet of a waffle house.
This is also a “you” problem. Fix that at your earliest convenience.
3 or 5 was always my goto. That being said, I didn’t have to write anything by hand in the last 15 years, and I’m pretty much forgot how it’s done
Yeah, the way Google doesn’t make a Linux version of their product is indeed bad. They say it’s because they want us all using their web version, and it would be probably even a valid excuse, but they make their soft for Windows, but not for Linux for some reason.
Thankfully they are in minority, and you can just ditch them and use different, more user-friendly clouds. Or, as you mentioned, cool working tools that community made for free, since Google is apparently incapable.
Edit: back to the previous point, you managed to do it first time without help, which kind of confirms my point. There is a Russian proverb “while the eyes are afraid, the hands are already at work”, which is very apt here.
None of that is code.
It’s possible that when you ask for help you don’t even use the words correctly, like you demonstrated here, so you expect people to help you without doing a bare minimum of even understanding the terms. If this is true, it’s on you.
So many times I saw people comming hot, asking for help, and when given a command to run, getting angry that it’s some words they don’t understand, and asking for a different solution, one that doesn’t require commands.
I don’t know, for example, what problem you had that required you to “understand filesystem” whatever you mean by that, and if so, what solution to it you expected.
In the 15 years of me using Linux as my main system both for work and for fun, I have never experienced this situation. Never. I seriously don’t know what you guys doing that not only requires you to type 30 lines of commands - insane amount of commands, you can setup a complicated server from scratch with this amount if commands - that can also be accomplished with two clicks.
Give me at least couple of examples, I’m very curious
If you’re getting coding advice, you might be on the wrong forums, which can explain the snark.
You don’t need to do code to use Linux. You can use Bash if you want, but it’s not a necessity
Nothing really shady about it, it’s quite obvious, they support Putin and his war against the world. Do they do it for free or because they’re payed operatives remains unknown, but does it really matter at this point
Proton owner came out as big creep, so don’t really recommend.
Absolutely aggree about KDE, I helped a bunch of people switch to Linux, and for experienced users, KDE was the key. Not only it works better, but it also follows the logic people are used to, but with more freedom.
Americacentrism never stops to amaze me. Do you believe that anything happens without your say in it?
The things I am talking about are applied to the development process before you start writing code. Rules from NASA’s the power of 10, MISRA, ISO-26262, DO-178C, and so on, as well as the general experience and understanding of the data flow or memory management. Stuff like that you fundamentally can’t apply to a system that takes random pieces of text from the Internet and puts it into a string until it looks like something.
There is an enormous gray zone between so called good code (which might actually not exist), and bad code that doesn’t work and has obvious problems from the beginning. That’s the most dangerous part of it, when your code looks like something that can pass your “Turing test”, that’s where the most insidious parts get introduced, and since you completely removed that planning part and all the written in blood rules it introduced, and you eliminated experience element, you basically have to treat all the code as the most malicious parts of it, and since it’s impossible, you just dropped your standards to the ground.
It’s like pouring sugar into concrete. When there is a lot of it, it’s obvious and concrete will never set. When there is just enough of it, it will, but structurally it will be undetectably weaker, and you have no idea when it will crack.
Is it possible that all of that is in your head and it’s just your insecurities talking? It’s actually super common to feel like your friends don’t like you because you were super awkward, when in reality it’s exclusively in your head. I’ve been on both sides of this situation multiple times, and 100% of the time it was absolutely a false feeling.
Authoritarian governments very rarely got overthrown, and if they do it’s almost never from the inside. Almost exclusively it takes some outside events.
And if they do, it’s usually done by some powerful group like army.
The situations when people rise up and overthrow autocracy are so rare, it’s not worth talking about. And it also takes completely different population. Americans are ingranely conditioned to obey the power, especially those who boast about freedom the most.
This is the whole problem. When it’s too late, it’s too late, definitionally. You can’t do shit against full on authoritarian government. You can’t do shit even if you have community. And you don’t have community, Americans hate each other more than anything, and it turned out most of them aren’t smart, so they’re ripe for the picking for every asshole imaginable to fuck them sideways.
I mean, there are a lot of projects that were supported by like one guy that stopped updating it 10 years ago, that’s true. But more often than not, if the software is useful enough, there will be a modern fork of it, or someone rebuilt it from scratch, or the functionality was repeated by some later project, or at the very least it’s very easy to patch some modern dependencies, and there is a very easily googlable helpful instruction on that.
Personally, I know of only two big products for which this isn’t the case, and they require 20 years old kernel to run, but those are esoteric outliers, and I’m not even sure people are still using it.
If you ever had to teach anyone anything, properly teach, you would know it’s a myth. It’s self-explanatory to you because you’re already familiar with the logic, language, conventions. I’m guessing, you grew up with all that from childhood, and you just forgot how you had to learn all that, and now you assume this knowledge didn’t need to be taught. You think cog is a universally understood language for settings because you always had it in front of you. Just like a lot of people think/thought that 3.5 floppy is a universally understood icon for “save”, and people who grow up now have no idea what I am talking about.
And then you assume that you are the average person, and start measuring everyone by this mark.
But if several years of teaching people of different skills, motivations, and ages, how to work with computers taught me anything, it’s that there is no universal language, there is no, and cannot be anything self-explanatory, and intuitive interface is a myth perpetuated by people who newer used anything other that one OS they grew up with. There is no amount of skeuomorphism you can employ that doesn’t require at least some amount of learning.
And when it comes to learning, let me tell you, there is nothing more straightforward to teach than “you type words and then read what the computer typed you back.”
And if several years of tech support taught me anything, it’s that if a regular person who doesn’t care about a computer encounters a problem, they don’t have inherently better time fixing it with GUI, never, not at all, not in a million years. I however always have way better time helping them, if it’s Linux and I can tell them what to type and they can read me the response. This actually true even if people are good with computers and know their OS.