Whoa there!

The world would be a much better place if that (and the inverse) was true…

Oh yeah! I remember that too, now that you mentioned it! That frog was hella polite-looking! As is his capy successor 😁

that the moment a physical book is published and sold through it immediately becomes “not available for sale”

Because that specific book now has a new owner who can keep it or sell it as they see fit. Like people still do with physical games.

If you mean that a book becomes generally unavailable when it’s between printings, though, you’re wrong.

Publishers overlap print runs and begin selling the first paperbacks before they’ve sold out the initial hard cover prints PRECISELY to avoid the situation you seem to think happens with every single book.

Such as insisting on doing a bunch of reprehensible things that your base hates while you’re running for public office?

Yes, exactly! That is a counterproductive action. And I levy my criticisms regarding that action to the actors themselves, in my direct communication to them.

You have a direct line of communication with the president and vice president of the United States? That’s impressive, but I don’t. Hence the need to express my critiques to peers in stead.

Two things can be true: it is in the best interest of the DNC to more effectively court their base, and it is in the best interest of leftists for the lesser evil of the duopoly to win until we can break the duopoly.

Yes, but I have at no point argued that the lesser evil shouldn’t win.

That’s what you keep refusing to understand: I want them to change their actions both because the actions are themselves atrocious AND because I wanted them to win and those actions were causing them to lose.

That’s why my correspondence with my representatives is focused entirely on their failings

First of all, I still don’t have a direct line of communications to the white house. Second of all, I guarantee that, if I had, my complaints and warnings would not be heeded. Like those you pretend to have made were.

and my correspondence with other voters is focused entirely on their virtues.

Well that’s just obsequious serf bullshit. Pretending in public that “your team” is always perfect and can do no wrong doesn’t convince anyone. It just makes you a bootlicker whose perspective only fellow bootlickers will relate to.

It’s amazing how you keep holding the meaningful actions of the most powerful people in the most powerful country in the world to a much lower standard of responsibility than me, a regular poor person, expressing a reasonable opinion.

I hold them responsible for their actions,

No you fucking don’t! You claim that you have a private line where you get to discuss all your concerns with the White House, but we both know that that’s bullshit.

You may leave a message for your congressperson and/or senator to ignore, but that’s it. That’s the extent of your options for expressing dissent ay we both know that won’t stop the support for genocide any more than me voicing my displeasure in a public forum. If anything, it’s LESS effective, as public dissent is much harder to ignore.

and I hold you responsible for yours

My actions of checks notes making my opinion on committing the most heinous crimes against humanity and (correctly, it unfortunately turned out) warning that continuing to ignore the people could cost the election and lead to the fascists taking over

Ooh, such transgression! Ever heard of the first amendment to the US constitution? It has a few sentences specifically about this kind of thing.

It’s not that my standard for them is lower, my standard for them is irrelevant to the actions of others.

That would normally make sense, but in the specific case of arguing that it’s wrong to ever criticize the Biden administration in public, that’s absolute counterfactual nonsense.

Be better and demand better from the people supposed to represent you, please.

You are allowed to be counterproductive, it’s just a stupid thing to do.

Such as insisting on doing a bunch of reprehensible things that your base hates while you’re running for public office?

It’s amazing how you keep holding the meaningful actions of the most powerful people in the most powerful country in the world to a much lower standard of responsibility than me, a regular poor person, expressing a reasonable opinion.

Do you REALLY not see how ass-backwards that is??

There’s a time and a place for criticism, a close race between bad and worse is not that time,

The only reason why the two overlapped at all was because the ones aiding and abetting genocide have been refusing to even acknowledge any wrongdoing for over a year!

A blindingly obvious example of this “not listening to their base” problem I mentioned.

online leftist spaces are not that place

Where else would you suggest?

Far right places like Truth social where everyone will agree for the wrong reasons, wrongly thinking that it’s about making sure that Trump wins?

“Centrist” places where everyone will automatically disagree, wrongly thinking that it’s about making sure that Trump wins?

Just admit that there’s no time and no place where you would actually take constructive criticism from the left seriously and pretending that there is is a pretense for making people sit down and shut up.

Every leftist voter who chooses to abstain contributes to the fascists’ margin.

Again with the classics bootlicker role reversal.

It’s the job of politicians to earn the confidence and thus the votes of the people.

It’s NOT the job of the people to meekly go along with politicians with ethically and morally compromised politicians with bad ideas unquestioningly, even IF they’re still the least bad option.

The politicians failed the people, not the other way around.

The difference is that you don’t control the DNC’s strategy, you do control your actions.

The irony of telling the that I’m only allowed to voice dissent at specific times and places where it would be ignored and then saying I’m in control 🤦

Newsflash: the people is SUPPOSED to control the DNC’s strategy! They’re public servants paid through public means to enact the will of the people FFS! That’s literally what they’re there for!

Thanks, I will now that I’m hopefully done with your nonsense for the day.

I was employing obvious hyperbole to make a point. That you chose to take it literally in spite of that in order to build yet another strawman is on you.

Thanks for the weird threat to my day tho?

Wishes aren’t threats. If I was powerful enough to wish things into existence, Trump would never have become president and we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

Now go bother someone else with your bad faith nonsense.

Says the moral “GeNoCiDe” warrior

you started this thread ranting about how if someone ever pushed back on you, it means they are fully intolerant of ANY criticism of ANY Democrat, ever.

Nope, sure didn’t. That’s just you projecting.

I can explain it for you, and I have, but I can’t understand it for you. Have the day you deserve.

No, that’s the exact opposite of what I wanted, which I have made clear from the start.

Please either at least TRY to argue in good faith or stop arguing at all.

screaming GeNoCiDe for a year

Yeah, because being at all critical about active complicity in the worst crimes against humanity possible is the same as advocating for fascism! 🤦

and pretended Trump being worse was irrelevant

Yet another strawman. I did no such thing at any point.

I’m sure that of the record number who stayed home, none did it because of the GeNoCiDe frauds.

And I’m equally sure that nobody stayed home because even the lesser evil refused to listen to the vast majority of the people they’re supposed to represent. That’s not at ALL something that could suppress voter participation! 🙄

Again with the false dichotomy: it is in fact possible to vote for someone without holding them blameless no matter what they do or don’t do.

You’re not just allowed but REQUIRED to hold the ones meant to represent you to a high standard if you want anything to improve.

“Anything better than Trump is good enough” is not how you end up with people accurately representing the will of the people or even PRETENDING to.

Yes, really. That’s how they lost to the most unqualified, dishonest, and mentally unhinged presidential candidate in modern history. Twice.

It just means we didn’t want orange Hitler act 2. Ds aren’t good but they’re objectively better than any R. I do what I want in the primary then what I must in the general

No, that part is self evident. Everyone sane and not the victim of intense brainwashing agrees on that.

Where we differ is your false framing.

To pretend that you either support one side unconditionally and never criticize ANYTHING about it no matter what or you’re on the other side is absolute lunacy. That or deliberate gaslighting.

If you can’t get behind that well

Again with that stupid false dichotomy strawman combo 🤦

Arrogance and obstinate refusal to listen like that from the Dem leadership and obsequious serfs like you is how the fascists won.

Probably because overall, this app collection treats you like a machine in need of precise optimization and maintenance of everything including relaxation?

That’s what creeps ME out about it, at least 🤷

Oh wow, that’s seriously one of the best protest songs I’ve heard in DECADES!

The seemingly impossible but very apparent mix of dripping sarcasm and absolute sincerity really elevates what’s already a great song in its own right to an absolute fucking masterpiece! 😘👌✊

Jesse welles is a treasure

Would be fun if one of the victims of that judge were to literally body slam Biden, though. Hypothetically.

Normally when people quote me I think they are arguing with me idk

That’s usually the case here, yeah 🤷 Glad to be the exception today, though 😁

fistbump

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