Has this been covered anywhere?

Those people would be unemployed, or (WAY more generously) need to be retrained and transferred to other jobs.

I don’t find “the orphan grinder technicians would need to find new jobs” a very compelling argument, but I imagine the orphan grinder technicians and their families do.

We should probably have basic income and stronger social programs, too. But we have a republican party that would rather die of measles than see their outgroup have one iota of comfort.

Also, “it would be expensive to improve our quality of life, so let’s leave the nightmare in place” is a bonkers view.

I’m skeptical that cost overall is a good argument in favor of single payer, at least in the short/medium term.

But maybe this is the important part. An argument for who? I think most of the people who oppose single payer health care are doing so for emotional reasons, so facts and charts won’t compel them. They might lie to you and themselves about how the money doesn’t work out, but those are lies.

Some people are really concerned with fitting in. Probably a survival trait from early humans

Who has money to spend on a subscription?

Also even when I had money, I don’t want to keep buying the game every month. It’s stressful, and sometimes I like playing other things.

When this comes up, which isn’t that often, I typically ask them where the line is. Like, presumably there’s something a company could do that’s so evil that they wouldn’t support it. What is it, for them? Crushing babies live on TV? That’s probably too far, right? So then we can sort of do a binary search between that line and where we are, and try to find what is too much for them. I suspect for many people it’s “am I personally, immediately, harmed by this, in a way I can’t rationalize?”

I don’t know why it’s so hard to get people to care about things. It’s not like twitter is some vital service. But people are just like, “meh, it’s funny.” What tepid slop do these people have where their soul should be?

It just seems like there are so many people in the US that are like “we can’t have more mandated vacation days! Chad doesn’t work as hard as I do and if he has something nice, I’ll die! Also my boss said the company is really depending on me- if I put in the extra hours he can buy another sports car this quarter!”

There’s shockingly low class solidarity among labor.

5 weeks is an insult and harmful to the child. Also not something to brag about.

gives you the right to 12 whole fucking unpaid

unpaid

That’s not really something to brag about. But poe’s law is real, and maybe you’re doing a bit?

Many people are just scared all the time. No one’s smart when they’re scared. The body doesn’t let you. They think the police will protect them.

Right wing media is largely to blame. And segregation and under funded education, public spaces. And suburbs + car culture isolating everyone.

Pretty much every right wing idea is bad.

I think when you entered a channel you didn’t get any of its history.

My ‘needs’ include what makes me want to continue living, regardless of what it looks like from your perspective

My parents would fight about this sometimes. They would blur “need” and “want” together, and that caused difficulties. It’s imprecise and, in my opinion, immature, to conflate the two categories. If you’re looking at a budget and you smush everything into “needs”, how are you going to know what to cut? The electric bill by any reasonable metric is more important than another lego death star, assuming you plan to continue living in society.

Furthermore, “I can’t quit my job at [evil megacorp], because then I might not be able to do luxury dining experiences as often” is laughable. Like, sure, there’s no way to live pure in our capitalist hellscape. We all have bills to pay. But highlighting “I like broadway” as the justification for “I help build AI used by ICE to deport people”? Come on. I’d respect it more if they just said out right that they don’t give a shit about other people. At least that’d be honest.

I don’t think most people could live on 65% of their current income. Many people are poor and can’t handle a surprise $500 expense.

I could live happily on the median income of my area (NYC) - $113,400. Even if I got a more expensive apartment, I could make that work.

I do wonder about people’s budgets sometimes. One of my friends has crushing medical, student, and credit card debt so they’re always struggling. But another friend was like “I can’t leave my job at [evil megacorp]! I need the money!” But when pressed slightly, their “needs” included broadway plays, fine dining, and every hot new game on steam (that they don’t even play). Most people are probably between those two extremes.

Many men are emotionally unable to accept things like this. I think the reasoning goes like

• i’m a good person
• i like my hobby
• someone is saying bad things about my hobby
• this makes me feel bad, so it must be false
• furthermore, the person bringing it up is attacking me

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belief_perseverance

Facts don’t matter. There’s really nothing you can do if you’re not someone they like.

I also think about this comic a lot: https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1151.html - Some people are too cowardly to grow.

Suozzi should eat shit and die. Guess we can’t all get what we want

Inspiring

Have you tried explaining something to someone lately? A lot of people don’t care and don’t understand. About anything

How many of the bosses can you walk in and just wipe the floor with on the first try

A pretty good amount, though that’s confounded by playing lots of similar games over the years. But, like, I see the boss lift his weapon way up and I go “I bet he’s going to swing. I should get out of the way.” Sure, there is an element to “I’ve seen this before - I know if I run behind him after the big butt stomp I can hit him easily”, but that’s hardly unique to fromsoft.

What sort of games don’t have enemies that you learn their moves? Like, you play Baldur’s Gate 3 and you learn “ok, that wizard has Sleep prepared, I should keep my HP up.” Or you play Hades and learn “ok, these guys like to charge but then take a second to recover”. This complaint is not unique to souls-likes but I don’t know if I’ve heard it brought against any other game.

I think it’s important to remember there are a lot of stupid people. Like Patrick in the wallet meme. I don’t know how to fix that.

“there must be in-groups for the law to protect but not bind, and out groups for the law to bind but not protect”