I’ve worked 2nd (afternoon), swing (evening), and 3rd (overnight) shifts for the majority of my life. I recently moved into a training position where I’m Monday through Friday, 8am to ~5:30pm (I get OT while I’m cleaning up and writing reports).
As much as the 2nd/swing/3rd shifts screw with your life in other ways, the difficulty in scheduling any kind of life services outside of working hours is maddening. Doctor’s appointment? Nope. DMV? Maybe Saturday, if you’re lucky. Chaperone your kids field trip? Hahahhah no.
I don’t want to burn sick time for a doctor’s appointment (I need to save those for when my kid is actually sick), and I sure as hell don’t want to use up a “vacation” day for it. How tf are you supposed to get anything done?
Scrolling down to this actually made me burst out with a laugh. Well done.
It’s so fucn true though haha
That’s the neat part. You don’t.
Okay but really, you have to take time off.
Also depends on the country you’re in. In my case “sick leave” doesn’t have a limit. If you’re sick or you need to take care of someone who is, you just don’t work. There’s no day limit.
Also, if you need to go to a bank appointment or something like that, most places will either not even ask you to “recover” those hours or (at worst) you’ll just work an extra hour a few days.
In addition to what you’ve mentioned, in my country if you have a government job doctor appointments count as work. And works days are 7.75 hours a day in winter and 7 in summer, including lunch.
The concept of burning vacation / sick time for a doctor’s appointment is weird to me (canada). I just say “hey boss, doc appointment this day” and he says “okay”.
I feel like it depends on the company here, but I don’t think I’d stay long if they made me use my time off for that.
Same thing here in Europe. You can then get a special permit from the doctor to show your employer that you were actually at a medical appointment and not smoking weed
This feels personal… I’ll have you know I can smoke weed AND go to the doctor.
In United States of Shit, you can get a doctor’s note to show employers. Most times I’ll make an appointment and get the date on a doctors card and show my manager. All unpaid of course
Ey! My GP’s notes don’t mention I wasn’t smoking weed. I’ll have to ask them to include it next time.
The concept of burning vacation / sick time for a doctor’s appointment is weird to me (canada). I just say “hey boss, doc appointment this day” and he says “okay”.
Look, I get that you live in a civilized country, but stop gloating.
Where I work, they don’t really give a shit if you have to go to an appointment or whatever. You just let people know you’re going to be out at such and such time and that’s it. No micromanaging of time since we’re all adults and know what our deadlines and deliverables are. It’s a salaried position, though.
If I had no flexibility at all that would definitely be pretty miserable.
I come from a decade of high flexibility and autonomy. I now have a boss who basically breathes down my neck until the moment i need help, then is a ghost.
The “you have to be sitting at your desk the whole day, every day” thing is fucking insane. I can’t believe how much I dislike this job because of it
Same, brother. After working at a job that really doesn’t want you to randomly be absent by any reason to a job where you can come and leave any time as long as you got 40h a week - that is life changing.
Unfortunately, not all jobs can be like this. My previous job, just because of it’s nature, would never allow this freedom.
Yes exactly. And all of those appointments are even considerd work time.
In our company we also get a splndid lunch for €5 every day. I honestly can’t complain about my work life balance with this much planinf freedom.
Same here, middle of the road salary but as long as I can stand on business in meetings people generally dont care. The difference is I’ll finish early to collect the kids and then do an hour or two when they are in bed.
Thats the neat part, we dont.
We don’t. We just exist. And then we die. It’s monstrous.
We don’t. We come home around 7 and start doing the bare minimum to keep up the household letting daycares and schools raise our kids.
We clean and cook and pay our bills then we go to sleep irritated and tired and sick of the rat race.
We have sex once or twice a month and go to fucking florida once a year. That’s it.
I see you, stranger. I hope you can find some flavor in the shit that life has become.
This is why the rich don’t understand how the poor “can’t work”. They have kids yo. And lower end jobs oftenhave very strict hours. But the upper end jobs have lots of flexibility. And the rich of course just don’t volunteer at their kids school, or they have a parent home with the kids to do all those things.
Last month, I was looking for advice for burnout.
The advice I found was inevitably “take a leave of absence from work and get a therapist.”
What a sick fucking joke.
My solution has been THC and exercise. Your mileage may vary.
Wonderful combo that.
Maybe this is my pedantry showing – I would say not THC alone, but cannabis in general. I like my THC at a low-ish level, and balanced out by the other cannabinoids and terpenes, for a full-spectrum entourage effect.
why dont you just go to your summer home for a few months???
Have you considered forming a homeless band?
Burn PTO. Already get up at 6 to get the kids off to school, straight to work, straight to dinner, pick one chore until i pass out, get up at 6
If you have PTO. Contractors do not. Finding full time employment these days is hard. Finding full-time contracts is a lot easier.
Companies love contractors. No benefits to pay and doesn’t count as a full time hire.
If you can’t take time off as a contractor then you aren’t actually a contractor.
PTO, not unpaid time off
our contractors take UTO :/
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Nice office jobs you can slip out for doctors appointments, but you kinda sorta still have to make up some of the time.
Yeah, this. You schedule of days or you ask your boss if it’s cool if you come in at 10 so you can get a new glasses prescription.
It depends a lot on the work culture where you are.
This is also a big reason people get married. It helps a lot if you have two people juggling this stuff.
I had a boss tell us we should forget about work-life balance.
That’s a weird way to pronounce “we’re an abusive workplace and I advise you to form a union.”
The correct way is to say that the company is like family.
Lol fuck that. It was either a really shit pahing job or a really high paying job. If it was inbetween tat company fuck can jump off a cliff.
It doesn’t work for anyone. People use up their vacation days.
That’s the neat thing, you don’t.
Use up vacation days. Yes, really.
You don’t take vacation days to work without meetings?
I work from home, and I’m paid based on various billable tasks. I work up to three times as fast as they think those tasks should take, and I only really work from 11am-3pm most days.
You’re doin’ it right!
