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  • 1: what the frick are you doing in Excel that needs even 10^2 columns? Rows go up to 2^20 (~10^6), and the thing starts to run like ass way before that.

    2: Excel does have a RXCX format, if you really do need to go out hundreds of columns.)

    3: feel free to ignore. Bitching about being forced to use the wrong tool is definitely more stress than anyone needs.






  • Are you an atheist, a neo-pagan, or just a protesting with an anti-papal bias?

    I ignored most of your anti-catholic bullshit because that’s what it is – anti-catholic bullshit. You asked where I got my assertion from, and I answered. If you want to get into more detail, sure, let’s do that.

    Go ahead and rebut how millions of lives were lost by actively sabotaging condom use

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_HIV/AIDS

    Condoms are very effective at stopping the spread of HIV, but they do fuckall to keep anyone infected with HIV from developing AIDS and dying. If the catholics are providing 25% of the world healthcare for people with AIDS, that means that there are “millions” of people alive today because of the roman church. And if celebrities like Princess Diana or Magic Johnson get credit for humanizing victims of the AIDS epidemic, so does the catholic church.

    I don’t want to defend their wrongheaded opposition to prophylactics due to their family planning usage, but how much blame they get for the spread of HIV and how much credit they get for research and healthcare is, like I said. complex as fuck.

    Between 500-1000AD the Church systematically destroyed classical libraries and learning centers.

    To paraphrase wikipedia, “citation fucking needed.” Here’s some random links I found, starting with two biased statements.

    https://churchandstate.org.uk/2023/01/christian-vandalism-of-the-classical-world/ https://www.christian-thinktank.com/qburnbx.html

    The first is a pop-formatted article by a rather obviously biased author, who doesn’t seem to have any actual citations for his claims. The second is a more scholarly formatted article from someone with a more pro-christian bias, but numerous citations are included. Here’s a less biased take, whose short form is “no”:

    https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/20453/did-christians-burn-the-great-library-of-alexandria

    The Church burned books, destroyed manuscripts, and executed or exiled intellectuals who challenged religious orthodoxy.

    I’m going to infer that you’re alluding to the story of Galileo Galilei here. In short, Galileo was condemned by the church not because he was an “intellectual who challenged religious orthodoxy”, but because he didn’t even try and hide his anti-catholic bias. There’s a world of difference between telling the king he’s wrong and telling the king that he should abdicate.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei


    To paraphrase what I said before, if you want to assert as a matter of faith that Christianity in general or the roman church in particular are bad and evil, then there’s no way I could convince you otherwise. If your perspective is more religiously agnostic, however, I encourage you to do a bit more research before you repeat the biased accusations of others as if they were objective fact.


  • I’m basing it on an understand of history and nuance.

    The roman catholic church is at least sixteen centuries old. I dare you to name any human organization of which endured for over a millennium and did not partake in something odious to modern sensibilities.

    I could probably go point-for-point with a rebuttal to each bad things you noted, but the only one that really merits rebuttal is “dark ages”. The term is out-of-vouge in modern scholarship largely because it was essentially an anti-theistic smear from the start; the roman catholic church’s obsessive need to keep books and insist that the world was made by a rational intelligence laid the fundamental foundation for the renaissance, and the era between the fall of Rome and the enlightenment was far more advanced than the term you used implies.

    Like I said, whether the roman catholic church is a net-good in 2025 is entirely based on how you weight the value of both the good and bad things they do. You’re free to assign them an arbitrarily high negative value because you have religious differences with them if you like, but pretending that they’ve never done anything good and aren’t doing anything good today is a position of willful ignorance.

    Come to think of it, I doubt you can find a single organization that was even a century old which doesn’t have at least one black mark against them.


  • The catholic church has been a considerable “force for good” for centuries. Whether or not the bad they do outweighs that is a question of how much value you assign to the bad things they do and how much credit you give them for good intentions.

    Sure, they’re anti-abortion and implicitly sexist, but they’re also pro-mercy, anti-war, anti-death-penalty, and possibly the most pro-science of all theistic churches. Bishops in the USA are obnoxious right-wing partisans, but in other countries they’re firmly in the local center or on the bleeding edge of the local left. (There’s a reason why the first American-born pop wasn’t a working priest in the USA.)