No shit, America is 300 million people and Ireland is 5 million people… smaller than NYC. There will ALWAYS be more Americans going to Ireland than Irish going to America.
This article infuriates me I can’t even.
Next in news “More people die of rabies in USA than New Zealand! Wow!”
My son wants to go.
understandable, have a good day.
Why the fook would you move to a third world shit hole country on purpose???
Seriously. Don’t move to the US right now.
the golf courses in ireland are pretty good
Depending on your field, pay. Where else do software engineers make around 200k?
That number is completely meaningless, as it does not include cost of living. Especially health insurance and lack thereof
It’s definitely not meaningless.
You can take 200,000 for a few years, and go back and ruin your old local housing market.
That said - this comment aged like milk. CS is not a great career to be in rn thanks to AI
I recently knew two people who came to the US recently.
One was from India, and he came for the money. He has a low six figure job as a “product manager” and the CEO’s toady. He’s quite ignorant of US politics and history, so he’s not really concerned.
The other came from canada, but also has EU residency (or citizenship? unclear). He said he makes more money here. He’s making mid six figures as a software engineer at a startup, with poor work/life balance. He can always leave, since his parents own a house in germany.
Neither were coming here like an old timey tale of immigrants trying to find a better life.
You never heard the story of the salt of the earth computer programmer who came to Ellis Island with nothing but a github portfolio and a dream?
Love it! Well done.
I mean, wasn’t the old time reasons for coming mostly about “money”?
I feel like we tend to sorta play up the migrations from the past. I’m sure, especially earlier in history, there were more people looking for some type of freedom, but lots of people migrated for “opportunity”.
its because they can flee if things get bad, indians are likely wanted in other countries as well so its little loss. Its just the high income that draws them here. indians that are migrating that arnt coming from money or not in tech might have more problems.
I volunteered - worked in a hospital laboratory in Haiti for three years. I went to help.
Time to build a wall
There’s 5.35 million Irish people and 348 million Americans. The article is saying the rates are changing, and that’s understandable due to the current political climate. But, it’s just not feasible for most Americans.
Natalia Lange, a migrant support worker based in Crosshaven, county Cork, moved there from Michigan with her husband after the 2024 US election. Lange, who is half-Hungarian and has an EU passport
Step 1 to becoming an EU citizen: Be an EU citizen.
I can confirm. 90% of companies don’t want to go through the Blue Card process no matter how qualified you are.
Didn’t fancy Hungary at the time though. Odd.
Dang, Cyst O’Donavan was really onto something here
Certainly don’t blame anyone with the means to get the fuck out of here, I sure would.
I do. Unless you are in immediate danger, to me, it’s running for the hills instead of getting involved and fighting back. It’s a cop out. But to each their own I suppose.
Some people are in immediate danger, although those probably aren’t the ones who have the means to expatriate, and yeah I do understand that point of view and it’s valid, but some people are just tired, you know. You have to weigh your options and choose where you want to put your energy.
A third of the country voted for fascists and a third didn’t care. What exactly would anyone be fighting for?
Idk, getting rid of fascism so that maybe people have a chance at suffering less? You know, caring about someone other than yourself? Beating it while it’s still incompetent and we still have a chance? But ya, let’s advocate for leaving the country, screw that third of people that voted with you would so easily abandon. You’re a coward and a cuck if you give up the fight to run, especially when the election was so dubious and their grasp on power so weak.
I mean, I get that. Fighting the good fight, etc.
But my point being- not enough people give a flying fuck. I don’t begrudge anyone not wasting more of their life let alone their kids’ lives trying to fight for something that people who are in it clearly don’t think is important enough to fight against.
I’m honestly just tired of it all. Fight so long and people can’t do the bare minimum to vote and you’re telling people who don’t sacrifice even more than they already have that they’re a cuck? Pathetic attitude IMO.
I mean here- https://www.npr.org/2026/04/16/nx-s1-5781002/georgia-focus-groups-trump-iran-war
Look at the level of people we’re working with here.
Lol what the fuck have you sacrificed? Your time? Your convenience? You haven’t sacrificed anything so yes, your unwillingness to fight back when you still live in comfort and relative safety is the peak of cuckdom
OK man. Keep yelling at internet strangers telling them they haven’t done enough. Maybe ill read about you in the papers one day doing something worth while. Probably not.
Reading two comments and you know anything about me. Fuck off.
On probability, and informed a little extra by your profile, you’re a white male who makes above the national average salary, probably quite a bit above based on your active participation in curling, not a very accessible sport. You’re on Lemmy, which by probability means you likely work in IT or tech or programming or similar. So I’m pretty god damn confident I know enough to know you haven’t sacrificed shit and leaving the country would be as big a bitch move as is possible to make. Being exhausted from reading social media and feeling burned out by the news and MAGAts isn’t sacrifice.
I’m not yelling at your for not having done enough, I’m chastising you for advocating for running away to another country. Very dishonest of you. Stay cucky cuckboi.
In what will become known as The Great Immigration Rubberbanding.
Boomeranging?
Nobody wants to be associated with Boomer-anything…
That’s when all the Americans try to go to Australia.
My dad missed out on this by one generation. Our family came over during the Gold Rush, and he wasn’t born until after WW2, so, yeah.
Wish I could go. I’m only a stuntman though, no fucking way I’d be brought over any other way than a program like this. =(
I’m only a stuntman though
“Only”… That is cool as fuck tbh. How did you get into it? You should do an AMA
Ha! I’m not a ‘big time’ stunt guy I got into it a few years ago!
I literally was acting in a small movie playing ice hockey, and the stunt coordinator was like ‘you actually played right?’ “Yeah man I played in college” ‘Oh cool can I have you take a few big hits?’
I was like hell yeah lets do it, and he showed me how we could pretend to do big hits instead of actually doing them, and then he was like ‘hey you’re pretty good at this you should do stunts!’ so, I linked up with some stunt people and started learning to do fights and how to fall and all that fun stuff.
Now, I’m ‘in the wings’ of one of the bigger action companies (you’ve definitely seen their movies), so I’m waiting for the call up to get to do their pictures!
That’s awesome! Very best of luck with it!
Thanks man! When I do a bigger project I’ll do an AMA after that’s a good idea! Any other film industry people on here feel free to reach out I love meeting other business people!
It’s only been the other way around for 249 years.
The Irish need to build a wall or something. And this is coming from an American.
Well, there are a few big cliffs, I suppose. But that sounds like a lot of work. Hopefully the shitty weather and constant banter should keep most of ye away.
While I get what you are saying I would argue that the Americans that are leaving and becoming immigrants aren’t the shitty Americans that would never think of such a thing.
True, it’s the educated that leave. People who have traveled outside the country.
PHD /md specifically fled like years ago, they are smart enough to know winds changed at the beginning .
Two ways you get to leave this country “easily”:
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unattached with little to lose. Go work abroad and establish residency. Cost of the plane ticket to get there.
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lots of money. Buy a golden visa.
For the rest of us it’s a major undertaking with lots of sacrifice, upheaval, risk, and difficulty.
(Yes, this is a simplification and there are exceptions, but for the most part this is true)
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americans that vote for any side of their uniparty are shitty americans.
The fact they don’t understand that is more proof they need to build that wall.
America is quickly becoming a dystopia for anyone with some semblance of a conscience.
or for everyone without a shitload of money
From Ireland the way it looks to me: It has always been like that for the original inhabitants since Europeans arrived. Just that white privilege isn’t what it used to be now.
You’re not wrong. I’d say the biggest difference is that the oppression is now more overt and intense.
I’d love to. The Irish seem like lovely people. Y’all don’t happen to need a dude good with electronics but no degree, would ya?
Realistically you’d need to get sponsored by a company unless any of your grandparents were Irish citizens (in which case it’s straightforward).
Edit: there are a decent number of tech jobs though so worth a look if you’re genuinely interested.
I’m technically eligible as my grandparents were both Irish citizens. The one negative is my wife and kids are not. My cousin who actually works for the Irish consulate said that if I had started the paperwork prior to getting married and having kids, they would be eligible. So like I can bounce out and leave my family behind, but I really don’t want to do that.
I don’t think it matters if they are a citizen or not. Every EU member state has some form of spousal and dependent program to bring them in, and if not, they could likely apply without and still get granted to stay. Just get the citizenship for yourself first and go from there.
Good call, I know an immigration lawyer. I might reach out to him, but I think he mostly deals with deportation stuff domestically, but he might know a bit or at least be able to put me in touch with someone who does.
What if you divorced, became a citizen, then remarried her in Ireland? Would she and the kids be able to get permanent residency then?
At least y’all would pass the “do you actually know each other” test.
Immigration: so how did you meet this woman?
You: well you see, it all started before we got married the first time…
That is a move. I’d imagine they probably thought about that though
Might be worth getting the passport anyway. It’s very solid and gives you access to support from any EU consulate if you’re abroad.
Wait so it is better for my partner if I get my EU citizenship through Ireland then get married than to get married before citizenship?
I was going to work on getting my Irish citizenship, though the thought of many American going there makes Ireland less attractive.
it is better for my partner if I get my EU citizenship through Ireland then get married than to get married before citizenship?
That’s my understanding. Are you doing it through the grandparents rule?
I was going to work on getting my Irish citizenship, though the thought of many American going there makes Ireland less attractive.
I wouldn’t worry about it. There aren’t any noticeable number here tbh and any I’ve come across who have moved here are sound.
Well my grandfather was Irish but also my mother was born in Ireland so it is either a parent or grandparent option.
Oh nice. I think it’s fairly straightforward in that case, though obviously I’ve never done it. Your nearest embassy will be able to fill you in handy enough.
If you do take the plunge and have questions drop me a line by all means but with an Irish parent I’m sure you’ll have plenty of family here willing to help.
