“Democracy sustains capitalism. Capitalism thrives in a democracy. And, right now, we are dealing with, as I called him at my speech on the Ellipse, a tyrant,” she said, referencing her rally last year on the White House Ellipse in Washington. “We used to compare the strength of our democracy to communist dictators. That’s what we’re dealing with right now in Donald Trump. And these titans of industry are not speaking up,”
Except they have actually started seizing parts of businesses. Is that not literally communism? Honest question. Because if it’s not, I don’t know what it is.
It’s communism when the workers seize the means of production. The thing is, this is not a workers’ government.
So the split hairs is that technically it’s not communism because it’s not helping the workers?
This really feels like “no true Scotsman”. The government that workers chose, seized the means of production. This is communism.
It’s not even under the illusion of communism you nonce. So no, it’s not communism.
Might as well call Trump the real “woke librul antifa” if you don’t care about the meaning words.
I guess what @degen@midwest.social is trying to point at is that worker’s don’t truly control the government and so when the current government seizes the means of production it’s closer to a change of hands between different groups of capitalists than anything envisioned by communists.
I’d also like to say that although the government has “seized” 10% of Intel shares for example it has no control over Intel’s decisions. Those shares only provide dividends.
THIS ISNT REAL COMMUNISMM REEEEEEEE
-no shit Sherlock we know it’s not an imaginary classless utopia because I’m still poor
I’m happy you do, others might not be so wise
Oh my fucking god shut the fuck up Kamala.
Well. That tells me all I need to hear. The DNC had decided to lose. Again.
Good luck. You’re gonna need it.
She a little confused but she got the spirit
She can’t say fascist because fascism is the merger of corporate and state power which is what the US has been building since forever.
I mean so close, I do understand what she’s trying to get across with things like Intel, yet absolutely dumb messaging.
Even when attacking Trump, Democrats can’t resist taking swipes at leftists…
It’s too easy lmao look at these comments. I’m so disappointed in all of you commies I thought you had more fight in ya! Poor you! Utopia delayed!
As much as I dislike it, this is the right messaging.
Anyone with half a brain will say “… This isn’t communism” but only the tankies who vote for Putin will really care.
But all the children of immigrants who fled horrifically evil “communist” regimes? The people who side eye the college kids wearing dictators on their chests? THIS speaks to them.
And… things are looking a lot like a 20th century “communist” dictatorship. So…
Why would this speak to them? They didn’t grow up under communism. All they know is that their parents say it’s bad, but they don’t actually know why it’s bad. Chances are they don’t really care that Trump is likened to a communist because they don’t understand the implied meaning behind the word. It’s the same with calling Trump a fascist. The average American doesn’t care because they don’t know anything about fascism beyond “it’s a bad thing”. It’s just a bad word which makes it the equivalent of calling Trump an asshole.
Speaks to me: commies hated free speech, they hated free markets, they had ample corruption, cronyism, and were full of contradictions and human rights violations. The USA government spent 50 years and billions of dollars on propaganda that disparaged everything trumps America is doing. Time to call upon it before the boomers die
commies hated free speech, they hated free markets, they had ample corruption, cronyism, and were full of contradictions and human rights violations.
That sounds like America these past few years.
Yes that’s the point in Kamala calling trump a commie: and yes our decaying empire went through the same stages the USSR did 30 years later with help from Putin: and YES. None of this is actually communism or capitalism it’s just stealing from people.
This feels similar to what Biden tried to do (which failed spectacularly, btw) when he tried to outflank Trump on the border from the right, the summer before the election.
Its not clear understands what she’s doing here and is confusing the language of communism with that of authoritarianism. So she’s saying Trump isn’t capitalist enough? Like who is it she thinks this rhetoric is going to move? Who is this argument designed to work on?
No, she is actually correct. He has taken some very communist steps. The government has taken stake in Nvidia and Intel, as well as received voting shares in Nippon Steel. His government has literally started seizing the means of production. His supporters are usually very anti communist yet, here he is doing what communists would do. If the message was conveyed correctly it might work. However, coming from Harris it just sounds like a sore loser. Bernie has actually praised these specific moves and that should really rattle his base. Instead the DNC will probably use this as a way to attack progressives by saying they supported Trump.
“Dogs have ears. I have ears. Therefore I am a dog.”
So says the featherless biped.
What an incredibly stupid thing to say as one of the only public statements since losing an election to a bozo.
hilarious to hear Americans use terms like Socialist, Communist, Fascist even at the levels of supposedly highly educated and clearly they have no idea what they are talking about.
Libs love losing and blue MAGA will eat all of this shit she’s saying while advertising her crappy book up.
What a stupid fucking person
A fascist dictator, not a communist dictator.
No need to compliment him by calling him a communist. He’s a dictator who operates a system built around a cult of personality where he delegates authority to sycophants not based on ability to do the job well, but on shared ideology, capacity to serve within the cult of personality, and his personal liking of them, alongside an economic policy built around society serving capital which serves the cult of personality. English actually has a word for such a system but it’s legally questionable to refer to the current regime using it at the moment.
Harris is certainly well educated enough to know that Trump is not a communist; presumably these dipshit comments are for right-wingers, because she’s trying to appeal to them again.
Goddamned neoliberals
I think she’s parroting her donor’s concerns. They don’t like the direction the wind is blowing. Mamdani has them spooked.
They literally exist just to kill leftism in the united states now. No other benefits offered
