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Assembly Bill 2164 authored by Assemblymember Rebecca Bauer-Kahan (D-Orinda) would have prohibited California’s governor from recognizing a request for extradition of a person related to their providing a legally protected healthcare activity in the Golden State to transgender individuals, or if they provide reproductive services. It provided certain exemptions, such as an extradition required by federal law.
I have no idea what the red line is for “leftists” defending this guy both as governor and a presidential candidate.
Do people who call themselves leftists support him?
They don’t
As a leftist, I would vote for him for the same reason I’d vote for Hilary Clinton. To prevent the Republicans from taking over. That’s about it.
As a leftist, he’s the same as voting for right wing if he’s not a queer ally. I don’t give a shit about muh economee or gas. We can easily crash the economy by rejecting consumerism to make the capital class suffer.
If he’s against vulnerable groups, he’s a fascist like the rest.
And this is how the rufhr wins. Because they are not the same.
No the furher won because people weren’t willing to stand up to him across the board. They appeased and compromised.
A liberal democracy focused on money cannot stop the rising tide of fascism. History proves this.
It’s not your privileged body being sold out for votes.
Who says he’s not a queer ally? I’ve seen him say and do plenty of things that are pro lgbtq. He disagrees with you on one issue and loses all credibility? This is how you lose allies and give power to people that genuinely want what’s worse for you.
A sell out to the queer community will absolutely negotiate with fascists to maintain their power, if they’re willing to do it while seeking power.
A true leader of character has a spine and is willing to fight for the rights of vulnerable populations and refuse any notions of taking their rights. I don’t care how many neat things he’s said before. He’s backtracked like every other slimy politician and can no longer be trusted.
He’s only a queer ally when it’s convenient for him to be one.
Stop. Trying. To. Appeal. To. Fascists. It’s like people completely fail at learning from history.
Or maybe he just disagrees with you on this one issue. I don’t think the Trans community has done a good enough job convincing people why they’re right. Which is why over the past few years polling data, even amongst democrats, is moving away from the Trans community.
The trans community just wants to be treated like human beings and not have their rights to their bodies stripped away. How is that not convincing? What more of an explanation do people need?
If the Dem community is drifting away, it’s because someone is enabling their latent transphobia.
And most of these people want the same thing. It’s possible to disagree on individual issues.
About what? Our existence? That we should be given the same rights, privileges, and privacy as any other group of people?
Polling is showing that people increasingly succumb to conservative rhetoric and agree that we’re subhuman, second-class citizens. It does not show that we actually deserve that treatment.
Not everybody has every right, privilege and privacy that they feel they deserve. This is one issue where most people disagree that you should have this right. But many people agree on everything else.
When you say “Our existence?” I can’t help but feel this is either disingenuous, or maybe it’s just childish.
Somebody can agree with EVERYTHING else you say, but this one issue, they do not agree that you should have this right. And your reaction is “they’re calling us second class citizens. They don’t want us to exist. They’re bigots”.
Or you say “succumb to conservative rhetoric” as though it isn’t a genuine opinion people have.
He’s already thrown trans people under the bus. If it’s him or Vance I’m voting for him, but if you’re willing to sacrifice trans kids you’re not an ally. He’s not an ally.
If he wins the Republicans take over anyway
If Hilary had won, we would still have pro choice rights along with ALL the other awful decisions th 6-3 majority has made.
Not the same at all.
It’s often used interchangeably everywhere.