Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) today announced Senate votes on his two Joint Resolutions of Disapproval (JRDs) to block the sale of $8.8 billion in U.S. bombs and other munitions to Israel, including more than 35,000 massive 2,000-pound bombs. Floor debate on Sanders’ JRDs will begin around 1:30 p.m. ET, subject to change based on the Senate schedule.
How did Mr Booker vote? I’m just kidding.
17 hours later “And that’s why I’m voting to keep sending arms to our valued partners in the IDF”
Sales. What sales? So we give these nutbags our tax payer money to them buy arms from us. Let me repeat that again, we gave them 19 billion dollar so that they can buy weapon for us.
Has your government given u any money to spend money in US.
Israel is just getting allowance from US and our hard earned tax money.
Israel is just getting allowance from US and our hard earned tax money.
To conduct a genocide against anyone of Arab appearance or Muslim faith, though. Which is what many people in America genuinely support.
Surprising nobody:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-senate-rejects-effort-block-arms-sales-israel-2025-04-03/
“The Senate voted 82-15 and 83-15 to reject two resolutions of disapproval over sales of massive bombs and other offensive military equipment.”
You don’t vote against AIPAC. Not if you want to stay in office.
Tell that to Harris.
Who?
Exactly.
Harris lost because she offered no real economic change. Most voters didn’t care about the genocide, or voted for even more genocide. For all we know, Harris might have lost by even more without AIPAC campaign contributions.
While her economic plan wasn’t strong, it did exist. The more telling thing, though, is that a lot of leftists decided that Trump would somehow be better for Gazans than Harris, and decided to “stick it to the dems” by either not voting or going for Trump.
And now those people are silent lol
If you’re buying the democratic system of a country as big as the US, of course, you’ll allow the illusion of choice. Otherwise, you lose your soft power and your ability to shape the division among the people.
Democrats were never trying to get reelected. They were in on it with the Republicans.
Harris may not have been the mastermind behind such a political strategy, but she was certainly in the know. Biden was senile from the start, anyone with a functioning brain would have expected that running for a second term was doomed from the beginning. They offered no solutions, rushed Harris’s campaign without due process, had no meaningful platform, and their endorsements were sickening and outright stupid.
Believing it was a fair election is naive, it’s like believing trump’s words and actions are his own.
There are powerful players in this political game whose names we will never know. They manipulate both sides, using politicians as mere faces to craft an alternative reality that serves their agenda.
We must stop falling into their cheap traps.
Beautifully said
Unfortunately, there are lots of ostriches in this thread who are going to think I’m promoting accelerationism, trump dictatorship, or putin.
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It’s referred to as Escalation of Commitment (at least in business school).
Some people have a really hard time admitting when they’ve been wrong. Especially if they feel tricked/bamboozled. So instead, they double down with their original premise. In other words, there’s just no convincing someone who doesn’t have an open mind.
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Ask the progressives how going against AIPAC worked out for them:
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/13/progressives-aipac-elections-threat-00173709
Not even national races, local races too:
You seem almost joyous that a foreign interest straight up buys candidates.
Oh, no, it’s an absolute disaster for our country. But it’s a simple fact that any US politican who dares defy AIPAC will be denied office. They will move heaven and earth to make that happen.
Keep spreading the word, this is the first I’m hearing of it.
Democrats are never there when it comes to protect their own country, but always there to protect israel.
This resolution is an israeli advertising displaying how efficient AIPAC is and how they own the senate.
Kind of crazy how much noise people make on baseless claims of Trump being a Russian asset, but AIPAC is bragging in broad daylight about their control on US government.
Anyone else who considers themselves pretty progressive feel like they’re purposely being pushed away from this site by ml users and other barely literate trolls? Usually users who barely speak English, but spend 8-10 hours per day shitting on the US left, and (they think stealthily) promoting Donald Trump?
Just me?
I think you might be mistaking criticism coming from the left with criticism by the right. ML people are likely to the left of you. The general criticism from the left is that the current Democratic party is so-not-left that it’s enabling Republican power and often collaborates with it. A recent example was passing the CR bill. I think the intent is to shift people who believe the current Democratic party is doing all it can to understand that it isn’t, and that it’s far from enough, and that supporting the mainstream Democratic party wing is going to produce more of the same insufficiency, ultimately leading more Republican power, perpetuating the poor-to-rich wealth transfer till it comes to a violent end of some sort. To be clear, the violence has already started but it will get worse as more people get poorer.
I haven’t seen anyone here shit on Sanders, and he represents the US left.
But regardless, ml users shouldn’t push you away from this site because you can just block whole instances.
Do you have any examples?
Maybe stop spending time on .ml
that Will never pass, Americans love when brown people die on mass, especially Christians
That terrorist state doesn’t need any more arms.
This applies to both terrorist states, Israel and the US
Well I’m gonna say blocking sales of US arms to the US might be difficult.
😐
It shouldn’t be. Dont pass the NDAA. Problem solved.
See you say that, but the amount of steel we import makes me think otherwise
AnTiSeMiTe!11!1
I am assuming your post is sarcasm. Just in case anyone didn’t know, Bernie Sanders is Jewish.
he is, he’s doing the zionists work
Why does someone that’s not American feel the need to comment on so many American political posts? Hmmmmm…
Right? The language used in a lot of those comments reads like a tankie who failed to read the instance they were signing up for.
you can read?
Sure you’re murican?
Because it’s a great source of humor.
Like watching monkees in the zoo.
Fuck off
scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds
Read your comments and lose a brain cell 🤡
I’m sure in your case it’s not possible
Hey oh!
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sweet summer child
How so?
He’s the sheepdog luring the gullible libs away from possibly running to an actual left 3rd party and keeping them in the imperialist uniparty by larping as a leftist and a lot of talk, all this while he votes for every US war and supports most of their horrible policies.
fuck off with your accelerationist insanity, if you want to lead us to some glorious leftist future do some propaganda of the deed yourself instead of accusing the good people of slowing the revolution by doing what little good they can
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slowing the revolution
LOL
That is exactly what the sheepdog’s function is.
I’m not American so I have a normal Overton window and can see he’s just a POS faker imperialist warmonger.
And actually IDC that you’re all too stupid to realise it.
Trump is really doing a great job at destroying your cancer country so you’re right, I should really fuck off and let you clowns bungle on. You’revolutionaries’ are all doing a great job.
Have another ‘buy nothing from Wallmart’ day.this is exactly why i called you an accelerationist
Call me whatever you like, that is not going to help you one bit.
Continue what you’re doing with your futile ‘resistance’ and I’ll further enjoy the long awaited demise of the US cancer country.
Never thought Donnie would be such a gift to the world.
you know he consistently votes against, right? and isn’t bart of the democratic party, he just coalitions with them in opposition to republicans
This looks like a perfect time to post my comment from 2 days ago: https://lemm.ee/post/60079584/19361770
He knows his virtue signaling proposition hasn’t got a chance since support for the genociders is a bipartisan given.
And he’s never in opposition when it concerns every imperialist war also a bipartisan given.
He voted for every last one of them.
At the end he endorses whatever Dem candidate is running.
From the ghoul Hillary to Copmala.
And not true leftists from actual 3rd parties.
If he did he would be shunned like them.
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This looks like a perfect time to post my comment from 2 days ago:
https://lemm.ee/post/60079584/1936177080% against, looks like a safe bet: https://truthout.org/articles/senate-overwhelmingly-rejects-sanders-resolutions-to-block-arms-sales-to-israel/
Over 2 years later, now he’s concerned about weapons to Israel?
LOL ok
Here’s Bernie in 1988 talking about Israeli war crimes against Palestine: https://youtu.be/TocimL0AT1w
Don’t bother. These people thought Gaza was the place in Egypt with the big pyramid prior to Oct 7
As always, with your kind… tokenism.
Someone who wasn’t born with infinite knowledge of the universe is dismissed simply for disagreeing with this hollow virtue signaling that serves more as an advertisement for israel than anything substantive.
If he were truly anti-fascist, he’d be fighting fascists rather than throwing his frail fists at the wind.
Wake up and realize that your political system is flawed and has been bought out for a long time. The sooner you see this, the more time you’ll have to prepare for what comes next, because as you can see, it’s coming really fast.
Also, dismissing the opinions of non-americans even though your president and your government are actively threatening violence, undermining governments, and propping up fascists around the world only proves how disconnected and egocentric you are.
So you had to go back to 1988? Not a word the last 3 years
You’re either purposely trying to turn people against Sanders or willfully ignorant. He’s been speaking against Israel forever.
Voted for US intervention in the following nations: Afghanistan, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Yemen, Yugoslavia,2, Bosnia, Haiti, Congo, Liberia, Sudan, and Ukraine.
Supports drone bombing: “They have, at times, been effective.”. Another interview: “Drones have done some good things. They’ve been selective; they’ve taken out people who should be taken out”
Bernie is against open borders, believes in strong border and anti-immigration policies.
Supports GW Bush. Supported warmonger John McCain after his death.He is a POS snake
Ukraine
There it is
Oh no, are you triggered about those Banderite US proxies? Fuck them
What’s wrong with a strong border and well-regulated immigration?
Funny how you dismissed 85% of his comment.
When someone makes a gish gallop, you’re not obligated to address every point.
Is it funny? They obviously just want to fling shit around; I have better things to do.
Yes, keeping refugees out (caused by his own miserable shithole BTW) bcs it would make the US poorer is definitely a very left -wing social stance.
If you have that shitty right-wing opinion then fine.
He can too but then he should stop pretending with his progressive act.You’re not even answering a question. You’re just lashing out to soothe your ego because you can’t actually do anything.
speaking, there you have it.
And he was also against the ceasefire.
Voted in favor of moving the coloniser capital to Jerusalem, etc.
not the word genocide, that’s for sure.
A lot of israhell has the right to defend itself! and Hamas bad!Because he’s said multiple times that that word should instead be attributed by the international court of justice
https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/09/politics/video/israel-genocide-bernie-sanders-collins-source-digvid
Its intentional that he doesn’t say genocide, because its a powerful legal word and he believes its not his place to apply it - however his stance and his actions are clear - abundantly clear - latching onto this one point, that he explicitly has a rationale for is silly at best, and deceptive at worst.
IDC about his BS laughable explanation.
So you care about what he dosent say, but dont care about what he actually says and does.
Got it.
This book should fulfill all your goals - it doesn’t leave a single word unsaid: https://shop.merriam-webster.com/products/websters-third-new-international-dictionary-unabridged?_pos=1&_fid=95a7efe7f&_ss=c
says and does.
those are two different things. Not a difficult concept to grasp. Say one thing and do another, that’s what politicians do.
This US imperialist warmonger fake leftists is no different.And I certainly do care that he DID say shitrael has the right to defend itself over and over again.
You’ve both mentioned the same “Israel has a right to defend itself” quote. I’d be curious to know when/where he said that.
I’d be curious why TF you can’t look that up yourself in 2 seconds and ask a loaded question as to imply he didn’t?
Because other people are reading this and the burden of proof is on you.
What you mean this what everyone can Google?
Just to make him out as the clown he is:
https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/1g8973g/bernie_sanders_condemns_hamas_and_says_that/
https://www.instagram.com/cbsnews/reel/C0K4QQfrZcd/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/bernie-sanders-rejects-ceasefire-calls-says-israel-must-defend-itself-against-hamas/
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Bernie-Sanders-supportive-of-Israels-right-to-defend-itself-but-critical-of-its-response-to-Hamas
https://x.com/SenSanders/status/1717325958149963925
He’ll still be the liberal darling as long as he doesn’t challenge their right wing world view.
He’s tried to block arms sales before. He’s only one senator.
It’s about the gesture, last time he ‘tried’ it was 80% against.
He knows this, he wouldn’t do it if it had a real chance.
This larper can’t even bring himself to use the word genocide.
Are you new? You don’t know who Sanders is?
Perfect face for a controlled opposition: old, weak-looking, peaceful in the face of extreme violence and fascism, never achieved any meaningful political success for years, calming yet ineffective, projecting an image of resistance while ensuring no substantial change occurs, suppress genuine dissent by emasculating opposition into harmless and useless protests.
He’s only relevant because he present a façade of resistance in order to disarm public outrage and prevent mobilization for systemic change.
He’s so dangerous for the ruling entities yet was never removed. Why?
They removed him from the presidency in 2016.
Almost like democrats wanted trump to win.
I recognize a pattern.
I know who Mr ‘Israel has a right to defend itself’ Sanders is
do you even know who bernie sanders is?
A person liberals hated until he fell in line
Going for the record of most total downvotes on Lemmy?
Don’t care about down votes from victims of propaganda
You poor thing. You have an incredibly unfounded and skewed version of reality. I hope you one day learn to think critically.
Nah that’s just basic trolling. .ML and a consistent contrarian .
I need to pay more attention to the instances.
You shouldn’t have to and from my experience is a very small amount on that specific instance. When i see someone repeating the same thing though, consistently, multiple times in a post i just block and move on.
Yep, done.
