I don’t like Hasan, but I don’t think “rabid ultra-zionist pigs” is particularly insulting. That’s some reddit level censorship where anything they want to construe as harassment, is.
Curious to people that are leftist that “don’t like Hasan”. I see this comment a lot always when defending him but starting with that prerequisite. Do you mean you just don’t enjoy his content style? If so, I can understand that.
There are things I don’t like about him. But I don’t really judge content creators by whether I’d be friends with them or not or whether their style is for me. For him, I like him because he serves a purpose of countering right wing and racist propaganda in a way that is most attractive to the people that are most vulnerable to it (young men). And he is clearly good at that.
I like him for that alone. He’s a huge net positive in my opinion.
He’s a political pundit. Part of his job is, at all times, to be entertaining and attention-grabbing. That means his appeal and success are directly tied to how abrasive he sounds at any given time. That’s the unavoidable pitfall of the profession, and it’s been true since long before the internet and even before television.
Punditry content is not for me personally, but I do think it is filling a niche. Especially as very very few online American content creators have been willing to engage with politics directly.
I’m not on the left so I can’t answer.
Hasan constantly debates in bad faith, and is often closer to a left wing grifter than an activist. He doesnt argue " I think your analysis is wrong because xyz" rather he says “If you beleive this you are evil, stupid, or captured by propoganda.”
The worst part is his preloading conclusions to arguments and failing to accurately respond to his opposition, more often than not endlessly reframing/deflecting the argument to get to his own conclusion without adressing what his opponent has put forth. To anyone in the debate scene, its almost anti-dialectic.
Alot of his rhetoric is moral spectacle, filled with rage, absolutist rhetoric, and purity language. This not being paired with humility, mutual aid, or coalition-building makes critics see him as someone who cosplays revolutionary ethics while living like a celebrity pundit. Not because he is rich, but because he uses the aesthetics of struggle without practicing its discipline.
For many leftists, Hasan represents the worst of online politics. Moral grandstanding, idealogical bullying, and content-first ethics. His style trains people to perform righteousness instead of doing politics.
I can literally tell you don’t watch Hasan because you said “Hasan debates”. He literally never does debates. You’re talking about something that happens maybe once a year.
Like, none of what you are saying here is at all resembling of his content either. It sounds like your only experience with his content is via watching someone else criticize him in a YouTube video.
I do watch his streams and clips every once in awhile, and I’m using “debates” loosely to mean adversarial political exchanges, whether that’s call-ins, panel arguments, reacting to critics, or sparring with chat/other creators.
My critique isn’t about frequency, it’s about style. The pattern I’m talking about, preloading moral conclusions, reframing opponents into caricatures, and using moral condemnation instead of engaging the actual claim, shows up in those exchanges too.
You can disagree with that assessment, but saying “you don’t watch him” doesn’t really address the substance of what I wrote.
There is nothing of substance to address in what you said. You can say
preloading moral conclusions, reframing opponents into caricatures, and using moral condemnation instead of engaging the actual claim
But you have to actually provide an example of what you are talking about. Otherwise you’re literally just spitting out word salad. I’m not going to pretend you’re actually critizing someone when you speak like that.
I’m supposed to infer your use of “debate” being loosely defined. But now you spit out another criticism without any examples and I’m supposed to “address the substance”?
It’s Jello. There is no substance.
You’re shifting from “this isn’t true” to “this doesn’t exist unless you cite a clip.” Those are different claims.
I’m not arguing that one isolated moment proves my case. I’m criticizing a style of engagement that shows up across all of his content, where moral condemnation precedes analysis and critques/arguments are reframed instead of answered.
You’re free to disagree with that description. But dismissing it as “Jello” doesn’t make it go away, it just sidesteps what I am getting at.
You haven’t gotten anywhere. Here, let me make this clear. I’ll use an extreme example.
During a debate I could say “you’re using a Strawman argument”. If I simply state that as a reason for why the person I’m talking to is wrong and do nothing else but just state a falacy they supposedly made and declare victory then I’m the idiot. I haven’t actually discussed anything. It may “look smart” to someone that just wants to watch someone they already agree with. But I’m not. I’m just stating a conclusion without going through the steps to actually declare it.
People that actually want to have a discussion of debate don’t do this. They are aware of fallacies or bad faith arguments. But they don’t just “declare” them. Actually, I’d say no intelligent or good faith person does that. That’s internet debate slop.
That’s essentially what you are doing though. You made some vague criticism about his use of morality. But didn’t actually bring any evidence or examples.
All I can say is “huh, I guess you believe that”. Like, what am I supposed to say? Are you just use to people that jump to disagree with you based on your vague criticisms? I have no idea. Maybe I would even agree with you. Why would I rebut to something you haven’t even explained.
You have no substance because you are just stating your conclusion. If you can’t actually build that conclusion why would you expect me to engage?
Hey, I heard you and I agree with your assessment. Block the guy youre arguing with in this comment thread. Its meant to exhaust and frustrate you.
Wrong. He absolutely explains xyz, and the moment he gets flooded with mouthbreathers who still double down on wrong ideas like “all immigrants are criminals” and shit like that, he loses his cool and starts insulting them. I can easily prove you wrong if you bring any talking point you think he hasn’t explained xyz about from the past year, I can tell you what his stance is on it and why would he insult some of the people that keep doubling down
Even I’m not terminally online enough for this but from the few things I’ve seen it seems like he ends up being generally ish correct, but he didn’t arrive there through actual logic. ex: https://youtu.be/knMyMxXeoDY?t=37m38s
Like come on dude just say “yes maybe it’s because he’s Jewish and it was about hummus.” I’ve seen him talk to other people about political things and he essentially does this same bit where he makes weird sounds and then tries to grandstand something unrelated to what the person said.
Kind reminder for everyone, that this is Ethan Klein in one of the most infuriating and evil videos I have seen in my life: https://old.reddit.com/r/youtubedrama/comments/1bg1xzs/old_and_horrifying_video_of_h3h3_resurfaces/
Had to use old reddit (you don’t need an account to see NSFW stuff here) because he successfully got it censored in YouTube.
This is the dude you are using as a moral compass right now. A dude who literally joked about raping a Boston Bomb victim while he was 28 years old and being filmed by the Raider of Ramallah. The dude who calls everyone a pedophile repeatedly until they ruin their life and career. This is who you are asking us to show a shred of attention to.
He is a Zionist who wants innocent Palestinians dead because he hates Arabs. His dad was an actual pedo, didn’t he impregnate his mom while she was still underage and with a massive gap of like 10 years between the two? The fact Ethan calls others a pedophile as an automatic insult says a lot about him, it is a massive red flag, and the fact he had to move from Israel or whatever in his early 20s doesn’t help the suspicion either. Ethan Klein has a high chance of being an actual pedophile himself.
I am not using him as a moral compass, he made an argument that something is antisemitic. If I don’t care who made the argument because it’s immaterial to the point of “why are the only 2 Jewish people in F tier in a video about a Jewish hummus?” Ethan is a react farmer and always has terrible arguments and was part of the gamer gate movement of just making fun of women and saying “politics(that disagree with me) bad”, but that doesn’t mean what he said here was wrong.
My dude. You’re using the genocide supporting Zionist podcaster as your means to criticize Hasan? Might want to just rethink how you even got here. I’m not wasting my time talking about fucking Sabra Hummus.
wow you almost exactly replicated how he would respond lol
You criticized someone for “not using actual logic” and then followed it up with a Zionist crying about racism while he defends a genocide.
You really want to engage in the facts of this with that as your backing?
I don’t care the politics of either person, I literally do not care about either of these people. If Bernie sanders said to use coal and Trump says we need to use solar I will say Trump is correct and Bernie isn’t using logic. Someone put 2 Jewish people in F tier on a hummus tier list and put the Jewish owned company’s hummus in that tier. I can see that being antisemitic, I can see it just being a meme, but either way it’s not an insane thing to question it, and Hasan dances around it for 10 minutes and says “well I’m not in their brain so I can’t say what they meant by it.” Here is the response from a normal person who is being honest: “Yes I could see how that could seem antisemitic to put 2 specifically Jewish people in F tier, but I think it was just a gaff or a joke and not meant to be antisemitic.” The person making the argument is irrelevant here, if you want to say Ethan is horrible go ahead, that doesn’t make Hasan correct here.
You don’t even understand what they are discussing in the clip you linked to. I can’t believe I am am typing out this response to someone that doesn’t even understand what they linked. But fuck it…
What is being discussed is why Ben Shapiro was put in F tier in the thumbnail even though he wasn’t on the tier list in the actual video. The obvious answer to me (if I’m not trying to label all criticisms of Jewish people being because the critic is antisemitic) is: Ben Shapiro was a popular figure at that time and putting him in the thumbnail was for click bait. He was also a supporter/denier of the Palestinian genocide.
So, your “obvious answer” doesn’t even make sense.
You’re picking a part of a longer discussion on the topic and not even understanding what is being discussed.
You picked the exact moment where Ethan gives up arguing about the actual tier list. (An Iranian women is literally sitting on the same tier as him btw. Do you think that’s because the panel was bigoted against her?)
He pivots to talking about the thumbnail because he’s losing the argument on the tier list. And then starts saying the appearance of a famous right wing commentor in the thumbnail is because he’s Jewish and therefore they hate Jews.
It’s such a bad faith argument. He’s literally treating Ben Shapiro like his only identity is “Jew” and there is no other reason to maybe put him in a thumbnail.
It’s such a ridiculous point to pivot to. Hasan literally does the best thing he can do and just ignore it. “I don’t know why”. It’s so far off from the topic. There is no reason to engage with it and keep following the chain of pivots.
Hasan -> Hasan Moderator (Frogan) -> Frogan doing a video -> The unknown video editor that made the thumbnail for the video.
Like, this is how far you gotta go? Sure, he could have gave an explanation like I did. But, then what? Ethan pivots again or just keep arguing it? Hasan isn’t dancing around it. He’s not allowing Ethan to control the conversation into something completely irrelevant like a click bait thumbnail.
There. I wasted my time explaining something that you could have gotten from actually watching the video you linked.
Jewish people can be criticized and their Jewish identity be irrelevant. Ben Shapiro and Ethan Klein are both racist genocide supporters. Why would I or anyone else hate them for being Jewish? I hate them because they supported a genocide.
AHAHAHA holy shit
“Hasan always debates in bad faith” pulls up Ethan Klein
You witless dishcloth
Sadly I care about the substance of someone’s argument not who they are. I also do not care about either of these people. If trump made a good argument against Hasan I would post that too.
he didn’t arrive there through actual logic
Jesus fucking Christ
He literally said himself he doesn’t care if what he says is true so long as it furthers the goals of the left, which fair enough but you can’t have your cake and eat it too.
Reddit banned me for responding to the bullies and refusing to delete those comments, didn’t know Reddit was so censorial.
Ghislaine Maxwell was a powermod on reddit for
yearsdecades.https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/hnfx0r/not_confirmed_but_research_suggests_that/
She had the 8th most link related karma of any account as of 6 years ago, and was the first reddit account to hit a million karma, she’d been there since basically the beginning in 06.
We’ve known this since before even this most recent drop of Epstein files.
Yeah, yeah, reddit has been completely fucked for a long time.
Go look into how Aaron Schwartz, one of reddit’s founders, suicided over doing what major tech firms are arguing they have every right to do to train their LLMs.
reddit has always been a heavily manipulated tool for elites to gaslight people with, and we are just recently realizing how much that is and has always been the case.
There was a massive pro Zionist campaign in the year after the start of the Palestinian genocide. Tons of Zionist funded accounts meant to bait and report anyone that spoke out against the genocide. A lot of pro Palestine people ended up on Lemmy for this very reason though. Which is a nice plus.
I got a ban for ‘inciting hatred or violence’ calling someone a “Human piece of garbage” for thinking only vulnerable or old people died of Covid. I knew a number of people in their 20s and 30s personally who died who were otherwise healthy. They doubled down after I challenged his statement by saying “They must have had some underlying condition. Healthy people didn’t die to Covid”. I called him what I called him and got banned. I checked a day later and he was still posting in other subs.
Ended up just deleting all my accounts and came here.
the super mods of reddit are super antivaxx, they did banned plenty of people who tells off the antivaxxers
For more evidence against it only affecting old people, 2 million Americans now have long covid and are essentially completely disabled and out of work because of it. For most It’s 12+ hours in bed a day and having no energy to even make food, for the unlucky ones it’s constant shortness of breath and other not so nice symptoms. The vaccine has been shown to prevent long covid, so any person regardless of age is taking a huge risk by not getting the vaccine.
I got banned for threatening violence for saying like… constant escalating tensions will eventually lead to someone getting shot.
I appealed and it was reversed then I was banned for ban evasion because my other account was logged in while the ban was being reviewed.
That appeal was denied… That pissed me off more than it should have.
I just don’t like reddit that is all. Come to think if I never truly used it until recently, why would i even want to keep using it? My first contact with reddit was the Donald forum thinghy. At the time i thought it was just a platform for weirdos. I was right all along…
May I ask, how many violations was it on that particular account? Because I always dropped them after a 3-day ban, which is the second offense, and out of spite I wait to start a new account, which is what I’m doing right now, the first time I waited a year and a half, I think I might mostly quit now, but they don’t seem to care until your account gets hot. Like if you make a new account which you can do with it temporary email like guerilla mail, they are like wink wink, for now.
Dont bother with a new account. You’ll just get banned randomly for having a different opinion than a mod on some shitty hobby sub.
Reddit is useful for getting information for troubleshooting and stuff when your search engine directs you there, but its not somewhere you want to actually be.
Common L Twitch.
Ban was for 7 days, and Hasan appealed it to 3 days after taking a quiz.
In the meantime, he streamed on YouTube for the first time in like 7 years, had 140k viewers at the peak, and made a TON of money from super chats, all while being able to stream his regular news coverage AND attend the ICE Out of LA protest in solidarity.
Israel dick riders really got him good.
The only times Hasan has been banned from Twitch was for insulting racist white people. And they say he’s doing hate speech. Pathetic.
My wife was watching that stream and just in shock. He made something like
7 million dollars*$18,000 *from superchats on his first(?) YouTube stream. He started it bashing the platform and by the end he was talking about his plan for what he’ll be posting/streaming to YouTube in the long term. The temp ban definitely backfired by pushing him to a platform where he immediately got 10x the viewers he’d normally expectEdit: I had remembered a completely incorrect number for his superchat income
Is there a public source for where you got that super chats number?
Its just a number he mentioned during his stream. I don’t have a timestamp but the VOD is here
Apparently it’s $18,000 not $7,000,000, and Hasan donated it all to the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights (CHIRLA).
Well shit I wonder where that number came from. Either way that’s a pretty dang good payout for the first stream on YouTube in 8 years
This guy is one the best grifters in the game. Right wing grifters hate him because he’s beating them at their own game.
Hasan is a grifter. Right.
Success = Grifter
That’s terminal capitalism brain for you
Yes he is by the very definition of the word
Grifters change what they say according to what’s popular. They can say one thing one week according to the news cycle, then say the exact opposite thing the next.
Assmanmold for instance is a grifter because he’s contradicts his beliefs as he follows what his audience believes the most. Most recent example of this was with Renee Good and Alex Pretti. Assman praised ICE in the former case and said they should do more of what they did to Renee. Then he condemned ICE in the latter case and demanded accountability.
Hasan has stayed true to his beliefs over the past 10-15 years he’s been doing political commentary. He’s believed certain things especially when it wasn’t popular, and suffered the consequences. Good example of this was October 7th when HAMAS bombed that music festival in Israel. Hasan explained the event as blowback of an oppressed nation against the oppressor regime, Israel, that had been committing apartheid and ethnic cleansing for decades. Hasan lost a third of his community as a result of his beliefs on October 7th, but he’s been clawing back a lot of those losses.
Hasan isn’t a grifter. He’s a left winger. And it just so happens that the right wing in America are fucking shit up so hard that the popular response in the American citizenry is to push left.
You’re an idiot if you don’t know the difference.
Grifters change what they say according to what’s popular. They can say one thing one week according to the news cycle, then say the exact opposite thing the next.
That’s not necessarily true. You can be very consistent as a grifters, a la, Ben Shapiro. The thing that’s a makes a grifter that is hypocrisy. They preach something for financial gain, but then use the money for something else. Hasan falls into this camp.
You’re an idiot if you don’t know the difference.
The fact that all his stans have resorted to insulting me right off the bat let’s me know that I am indeed correct
Ben Shapiro
Ben Shapiro is actually losing prominence in contemporary politics, or at least American Republican politics, precisely because he won’t grift further to the right his other contemporaries like Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes. Shapiro is seeing more spotlight from the American Liberal media these days because he is consistent in his views, yet Liberals are approaching his positions.
Ben Shapiro is a counter argument to your position.
right off the bat
Oh I didn’t insult you right off the bat. I rejected your position.
Then you showed to the rest of us how much of a dumbass you were, to which I seized the moment.
Keep coping that you’re right though
Oh really. Exactly what does he grift people out of, oh wise one?
Money, how is that even a question?
Don’t you have to sell some junk supplements or something to be a grifter? Just cause you don’t like the guy doesn’t make him a grifter.
No, a grifter is a con artist who uses charm, deception, and manipulation to swindle people out of money or possession. Hasan fits this definition down to the letter.
It was people and comments like yours that made me discover, watch and like Hasan.
You are an imbecile for thinking that he is grifting. He is not. He is consistent with his core ideas. You must be one of those morons who think he should be broke because he calls himself a socialist/communist, no? Is that what it is? Because if so, you are so goddamn stupid if you still hold that argument in your hands. You will never defeat billionaires by being poor, dude. We need some people of our own with the same amount of power, do you understand that? I mean, Hasan likely has less than 100 million USD as a net worth, comparing him to Penguinz0’s 46M he has made with all his YouTube videos alone, both very active content creators, but Penguinz0 has way more people watching him everyday, because he attracts normies, Hasan attracts those obsessed with politics, which are more rare and few, especially leftists. Even yet, if he donated it all like you want him to, then how the fuck is he going to spread his core ideas further?
People who want him to self-host, to abandon Twitch because it belongs to Amazon, are also some of the dumbest people I have come across in my god damn life. I can go on and on about why that’d be incredibly unfeasible, incredibly outside Hasan’s or any other content creator’s hands. The amount of money you need to build the infrastructure is immense. If he cannot use AWS, he’d need to use CDN (which hold and behold, also have evil rich people owning the services), which is incredibly expensive to hold the bandwidth of 40,000 regular viewers everyday for 8 hours everyday. Then the marketing or means to gain traffic, it’s an incredibly absurd suggestion, I seriously hope you are not another one of those.
I have never given him a cent, yet I have enjoyed countless hours of his content, learning about how evil the Trump administration is, how evil Israel is, and which products, from popular brands owned by evil people I should avoid and convince my family of 100+ people to do the same.
You complain that he donates money for “PR”, which is also fucking stupid. The amount Hasan has donated, if measured by proportion of his total wealth, is higher than all the other millionaires and billionaires. At this point, if we are constantly surrounded by children like you, nobody is ever going to donate anymore, because people will ALWAYS call it fake. Congratulations, bub. You made donating a much less common practice. It was people like you that convinced rich people to hate us even more than they already do, and pushed them to do us more harm. We could’ve at least made it a little easier if it wasn’t for morons like you. Fuck donating, right? It will never be sincere, it will always be a waste of time and resources you could instead use to further damage the rich.
You criticized someone by saying “you’re literally incapable of producing a coherent, logical response” yet your response to this: “When has Hasan manipulated people?” was “All the time. How can you not see it?” You literally talk and sound like a MAGA, dude. You both use the same style of arguing: substance-less, empty, hollow, repeated NPC one-liners, insults, “do your own research” type of answer. It’s so fucking gross.
I am glad people like you leave these comments, though. They are great opportunities to display how fucking stupid Hasan’s haters are to the silent readers like me. No one does a better job at convincing people to listen to him than stupid morons like you. So, seriously, thank you so much for that. Every idiot you see repeating the “he shocks his dog” bullshit, is not that different from seeing Ethan Klein’s community constantly calling others a “pedophile, pedophile, pedophile” to ruin their lives and careers. You are disgusting and stupid as fuck if you really think talking like that is convincing anybody to like you or your favorite content creator / news anchor / politician / celebrity / ideology. You are only scaring people away, especially when you don’t offer anything convincing or logical, Mr. “All the time. How can you not see it?”
By the way, no one has asked you this, but why don’t you recommend us who to listen to? After all, you claimed this: “I like you unironically think that these 3 shithead grifters are the only role models out there for young men.”
What other content creators are you encouraging us to watch instead? Come on, tell us. It’s going to be so funny to see your own hypocrisy at full display.
When has Hasan conned people?
When has Hasan deceived people?
When has Hasan manipulated people?
You say Hasan swindles people of their money. How come he donates so much of what he makes then?
You are a shit-lib libtard that has no working brain. Either that, or you’re a troll or bot paid by foreign actors. Either way, your propaganda isn’t working as can be clearly seen in this comment section.
Hasan is a beacon of hope for young men that don’t have many other high profile male role models to look to, in a sea of Andrew Tate’s and Nick Fuentes’s. He believes in an alternative to the destructive system of capitalism that most of the world lives under. He is the answer for progressive politics in at least the US and really the whole world.
As soon as the winds shift his direction, you won’t be calling him out. You’ll be supporting him. And then you’ll be the mindless, grifting minion you hope no one will notice that you are now.
When has Hasan conned people?
When has Hasan deceived people?
When has Hasan manipulated people?
All the time. How can you not see it?
You say Hasan swindles people of their money. How come he donates so much of what he makes then?
Why do billionaires donate money? It’s for PR.
You are a shit-lib libtard that has no working brain. Either that, or you’re a troll or bot paid by foreign actors. Either way, your propaganda isn’t working as can be clearly seen in this comment section.
I like how you’re so mentally inept that you’re literally incapable of producing a coherent, logical response. I guess your brain collapsed at the thought of doing something like that and this verbal vomit of a response is what it produced instead.
Hasan is a beacon of hope for young men that don’t have many other high profile male role models to look to, in a sea of Andrew Tate’s and Nick Fuentes’s.
I like you unironically think that these 3 shithead grifters are the only role models out there for young men. I was just trying to insult you before, but you might actually be mentally inept.
He is the answer for progressive politics in at least the US and really the whole world.
He’s not going to let you tap lil bro
As soon as the winds shift his direction, you won’t be calling him out. You’ll be supporting him. And then you’ll be the mindless, grifting minion you hope no one will notice that you are now.
Please leave me out of your weird fanfics. I’m merely calling out grifters as they for what they are. If that ruffled your feathers then that’s on you.
All the time.
Feel free to drop evidence that supports your claims. Shouldn’t be hard to find since you say he does this quite regularly. Almost all of Hasan’s life is on camera, so again you should have plenty of clips.
In the meantime, Hitchen’s Razor bitch.
Go back to reddit bro.
Nah
Ken Klippenstein is awesome
He didn’t get banned, this is paid administrative leave.
paid administrative leave
I wouldn’t say paid. Twitch temporary bans stop autorenewals of subscriptions during the ban period. So 7 days ban means a bit under a quarter of his subscribers would drop from autorenewal. But it’s hard to estimate what share would notice and manually resubscribe, and what share of his normal twitch revenue is from bits rather than subs.
deleted by creator
Youre not even joking.
Why is anyone with a functioning brain still on twatter???
Fucking delete your accounts! It’s a fascist propaganda hate-filled trash media. You are basically saying you are ok with that pedo muskrat by keeping your account.
Is Twitch and twitter/X the same thing? Because the article says Twitch.
they are not. but they ultimately present similar problems since twitch is owned by amazon
Why is anyone with a functioning brain still on twatter???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect
In economics, a network effect (also called network externality or demand-side economies of scale) is the phenomenon by which the value or utility a user derives from a good or service depends on the number of users of compatible products. Network effects are typically positive feedback systems, resulting in users deriving more and more value from a product as more users join the same network. The adoption of a product by an additional user can be broken into two effects: an increase in the value to all other users (total effect) and also the enhancement of other non-users’ motivation for using the product (marginal effect).
So network captured, non properly functioning brains.
Because other platforms censor pro-Palestine content much harder.
I’m using Upscrolled a bit now but the lack of desktop client is annoying.
i’ve stopped using twitter years ago. i sometimes use twitch when im bored. i suggest trying owncast for people that are political dissidents because it’s free and open source. but i know not many will because most of the userspace is on twitch and youtube.
Yes, but we should also defend his right to use twitch. Because they will come for the server hosters if you’re annoying and use owncast.
banned old school in 3 months. sucked anyway. banned for;
I don’t get this post, apparently he was talking about watchlists for anti-israel protesters, what does it have to to with ICE?
ICE serves Israel. Rumeysa Ozturk was also abducted through “anti-Israel” trackers, and that was long ago now.
The 2nd paragraph of the image.
Edit: assuming he somehow linked them while getting banned.
Better start looking or setting up new platforms now, they are all going to get censored for the regime. The corpos love Donny too.
Twitch was a gaming platform… Im ashamed and insulted that it devolved to the point of being a political censor. In the sense it should not be politically focused at all.
Refuse to be upset about it because no one else was upset when the slop took over.
Wild/scary how easily people latched on to collar gate. Or just shows how much people are targeting hasan.
Especially considering this ban is as dumb as when they banned him for cracker or the Rick Scott stuff. Silly him should have just been like the other big streamers and only say terrible things about Muslims or immigrants
Clinged onto collar gate? The guy shocks his dog and no evidence has been provided to prove otherwise.
Twitch bans are always superfluous and hasan dodges them like neo from the matrix.
There is no evidence that he does shock his dog.
“BUT SHE YELPED” and her backleg moved strangely, you never caught a nail or twisted your ankle?
“BUT HE REACHED OFF SCREEN” to touch what? To touch what? Did you see it? No?
Everything you have is circumstantial at best, but you FUCKING FELL FOR IT. You fell for LSF SLOP and the narrative spun around the clip. You fell for reddit again. Good job dumbass, Destiny fucking controls you.
ALL CAPS YELLING AND SCREAMING BLAGEURIJSNNNN YOU FELL FOR IT IT WAS YOUR DESTINY
AHAHAHAHAHA
This is your rebuttal? and you post the Westside Tyler video? You truly are an easily mislead troglodyte. Get the fuck outta here dude, that video doesn’t show a single shred of proof. It’s 100% speculation and lying.
“You can see here where his hand reaches out of frame, vain lying sociopath grifter fake leftist baby-eating Hasan could ONLY have been going for a shock remote, as nothing else would possibly have been out of frame except this narrative i’ve been dying to craft because I don’t like socialism or being told that gambling is for scumbags”
He framed a narrative around you like he was building a house and you took out a mortgage on it. Truly no fucking hope for this world.
…
Youre very weird
Says the one thinking collar gate is real and hasan is constantly doing ban worthy things
Dont threaten me with a good time.
Streamers should have an owncast as a back up
He streamed last night on YouTube. Supposedly it peaked at 150k viewers.
I personally saw it hit 100k but I dipped in and out.
And when he turned on super chats he probably made a few thousand dollars in the first 3 minutes. I’ve never seen anything like it.
We need a leftist alternative to Twitch, and fast. Seriously!
The challenge is the bandwidth required is prohibitively expensive. From hyperscalers like AWS we’re talking 5-10 cents per GB of egress.
Lets do some quick math! Suppose we have a 2 hour live stream with 1000 viewers
2 hours of 720p 30fps h.264 video at 10mbps bitrate would be about 9GB. at 5 cents per gigabyte of bandwidth that’s $0.45 for each viewer who watches the whole stream.
Lets supposed 25% of viewers watched the whole stream, 25% saw an hour of it and 50% watched only 15 minutes of it
250*0.45=112.5 250*0.225=56.25 250*0.05625=28.125 112.5+56.25+28.125=196.875So that 2 hour stream cost the platform about $200 in bandwidth alone.
If we extrapolate this to match Hassanabi’s first YouTube stream numbers where he had around 140k concurrent viewers, and triple the length to match his normal 6 hour stream length, that comes out to a cost of about $84k in bandwidth costs alone for that single stream. The real cost is probably 2-3x that once you factor in all other infrastructure and engineering costs. Lets call it 250k for some easy math (and we’re well beyond the point of back of the envelope math making any sense). Assuming a similar stream is hosted 5 days a week, that’s a cost of 65 million dollars per year. Will Hassan pay at least $65 million in platform fees during that year? Maybe! But there’s a reason Twitch is losing money hand over fist
But lets be honest with ourselves, any open alternative to Twitch would either be so small as to be hosted on a cheap VPS setup with fixed costs or big enough to be just as bad as Twitch is about things. And since a given person has about as good a chance at winning the lottery as they do at becoming a professional streamer, we aren’t talking even a thousand viewers, we’re talking a few hundred probably at best. At that scale, peertube is a very good option (especially with its brilliant bandwidth sharing features)
TL;DR Feel free to go build your leftist alternative to Twitch on Peertube!
The only way that scales is letting viewers pay for it. It happens anyway, either through watching ads or by paying for an ad-free subscription. Why not just pay for the bandwidth you use?
The problem is, bandwidth is simply so dang expensive that every company which hosts video content struggles with it. Netflix goes so far as to offer cache servers that ISPs can install in their networks to reduce bandwidth costs for both Netflix and the ISP, because again, bandwidth is expensive as hell!
Peertube seems like the most viable solution because individuals can host instances for small numbers of users keeping the collective bandwidth costs reasonable (some VPSes offer up to 1TB of bandwidth per month bundled into their contracts for example) while federation permits access to an extremely wide catalogue of content
So like do a stream on PeerTube?
Yup! Exactly my too long didn’t read conclusion
Maybe there could be something like torrents but for streaming, where by watching you’re forwarding that stream to others.
This is one of the core features of Peertube, although it doesn’t work 100% on all browsers/devices/networks. It also necessitates sharing your IP with others in order to actually save any bandwidth for the host
IP has Multicast built-in but its disabled on the open internet because no one every bothered to make it secure
Better put it in a country that is not susceptible to US influence, which is about none of them. 2024 was our last fucking chance. We have a wild card in 2028 and you motherfuckers are blowing it trusting these establishment democrats, we need a white dude the talks like mandami that knows how to build and run a political machine.
Or figure out how to do it in a fundamentally distributed way.
PeerTube, build a video platform on I2P, something like that.
Won’t be fast or high resolution unless someone figures out an entirely new kind of video codec, but it would be much, much harder to censor.
Are you one of those electoral doomer people who thinks “we’re NOT gonna get an election in 2028”
2028 is last chance, in the succession, uphill with the cheating they are doing.
Call it doomer or no, it is the fucking truth, face it so we can meet it.
Gee, I wonder who?
Jon stewart, as front man to take the preheat, then sean fain, uaw boss.
2028?
Do you think we’ll get mid terms?
Yes. But it is gerrymandered to hell for the house. Obviously half or more of states reject these democrats they offer too even without cheating.
The fact that its owned by Amazon it should be protested to oblivion.
I know an excellent leftist alternative to Twitch, it’s called Twitch.
Yeah go find some other platform devoted to a specific format and create a rats nest of grifting there.
He’s livestreaming on YouTube at the time of this comment posting. I like it better on YouTube than twitch personally because YouTube Vanced is OP. But the comments aren’t working.
I checked and Youtube vanced comments are working for me. Maybe you need to patch it with a new apk.
Thanks. I didn’t think updating from 20.14.41 to 20.14.43 would do much, but I was wrong! Working.
I disabled comments on Vanced and I feel so much better
social media is fantastic when other people don’t ruin it
For anyone curious, he’ll be streaming on YouTube today at 11am PST
Fuck Hassan, he’s so incredibly undifferentiated in his stances and opinions. And he’s stanning china waaay to much…
China is flexing on the US with cheap electric cars, high speed rail, and literal cyberpunk looking cities they built in a decade. I want that shit here. I’ll Stan China until the SS troops stop door knocking and we get some public transit and healthcare.
he’s so incredibly undifferentiated in his stances and opinions
What does this even mean
that he’s just another reactionary nepo baby, producing low brow bait content in a narcissistic effort to feed his own ego, presumably?
i haven’t watched any of his streams, just piecing together what bits and bobs i’v been exposed to.
his entire persona is both fake and uninteresting, if your gonna be a streamer instead of getting an actual job you could atleast do something unique instead of just pretending to be relatable
I haven’t watched any of his streams
So you saw out of context clips and base your opinion on that?
…
eh, i know a staged room when i see one. he’s nepo baby playing a character and a lame one at that, and the dog was obviously distressed.
looks like a duck and quacks like a fuck etc.
Well, sorry to tell you this, but you are so god damn wrong for everything you said here. I too used to think like you year and a half ago, when everything I heard about Hasan was through people who hated him, including Penguinz0 whom I watch a lot. But then I tuned in, I watched him, and realized that people like you lied to me so bad. In some way, I thank you for that, because you pushed me to discover him and also see a lot of evil and ignorance around me. I probably would have never done that if I wasn’t constantly bombed with negative clips and comments about him, sparking my curiosity once and for all, you know?
The only difference between you and I is that I don’t speak about people I haven’t at least watched and heard myself for at least a few hours. Asmongold, Ethan Klein, Andrew Tate, Trump, JD Vance, Nick Fuentes, I have watched all of them and “met” them myself to see if what people say it’s true before I open my mouth and share something completely biased or wrong.
shrug
big world, lotta “influencers” most arent all that complicated and i don’t see much of a reason to waste the time/effort “getting to know them”. not worth it to try and keep track of everything
least we got some good memes out of the situation though
I don’t watch him but my wife does and I’ll certainly listen in while I do other things if I’m in the same room. There’s definitely people who want nothing but to tear him down and will invent scandals, but also he definitely leans into the controversy, just like how he seems to enjoy highlighting some of the worst takes by his chatters.
just another reactionary
He’s been doing this for over a decade now, and provides valuable commentary to the news coverage he’s covering, and also he’ll do debates & interviews with folks, encourages viewers to check out the works of certain journalists, etc.
nepo baby
He’s addressed this before, basically stating that yes he did get his start thanks to his uncle’s success with The Young Turks. He doesn’t pretend that he succeeded in a vacuum based entirely on his charm/smarts/etc. and he runs his company as a coop with employee pay directly related to the company’s income rather than whatever is the “industry standard”
producing low brow bait content
Honestly he tends to do a better job reporting on current events and providing relevant context than [insert national cable news network here] does
narcissistic effort to feed his own ego
Yeah probably
i haven’t watched any of his streams, just piecing together what bits and bobs i’v been exposed to
So you don’t have anything to base your opinions on. Want something to base opinions off of? Here’s him interviewing the attorney general of Minnesota after attending one of the anti-ice rallies immediately following Alex Pretti’s execution or here he is interviewing prisoner firefighters in LA during the fires in early 2025
the dog was obviously distressed.
My wife happened to be watching that stream and she’s dropped streamers she’s watched religiously for far less than animal abuse. Literally nothing happened. You’re seeing edited/manipulated clips trying to make a scandal out of nothing.
Look, Hasanabi ain’t my cup of tea exactly, (I appreciate his content but I’m not going to seek it out) and I intentionally avoid getting attached to any public personality or person because all too often they end up being a piece of shit, but he’s out there doing good work covering real news and educating real people on how the real world works. Until he actually does something worth dropping him, I’ll keep paying attention whenever my wife watches him (and she’ll probably know before me if he does something terrible or some revelations come out)
TL;DR stop spreading misinformation!
Fellow Lemming, you’re wearing your stupidity on your sleeve.
Sit down. Shut up. And actually watch his streams for more than a day. Maybe you’ll learn something
It’s funny that the haters show up unwanted to give uneducated remarks that no one asked for.
The jealousy is on display.
Show us maos little red book again, that got us hard.
Let me show you these numbers instead. They always get me hard:
During Covid:
- US - 3,596 deaths per million with a population size of 335 million.
- Mexico - 2,605 deaths per million with a population size of 130 million.
- China - 85 deaths per million with a population size of 1.42 billion, 4x times the US’, which should’ve been harder to administrate or manage, but they did it efficiently anyway.
Which seems more responsible there? And by A LOT.
Every year, to general conflict:
- US - 20,000± people - rate of 5.7 due to its population size.
- Mexico - 30,000± people - rate of 24.85.
- China - 7,157 people - rate of 0.502, incredibly impressive for a country 4x times the size in population.
- UK - 684 people - rate of 1.14.
- Canada - 874 people - rate of 2.27.
- My favorite, this one always makes Americans go “no way that’s true. But the way they treat gays over there!!!” Saudi Arabia - 285 people - rate of 0.795.
Which are safer? China and Saudi Arabia.
Now, according to World Population Review, Our World Data, the UN and more regarding wealth inequality, the higher the number, the worse (Gini coefficient, 0 would mean everyone has the exact same amount of cash, so, expect it to be a minimum of 20~):
- South Africa - 63.0
- Brazil - 51.6
- Zimbabwe - 50.3
- Mexico - 43.5
- US - 41.8
- China - 35.7
- UK - 32.4
- Japan - 32.3
- Sweden - 31.6
- Iraq, bro - 29.8
- Norway - 26.9
- United Arab Emirates - 26.4
- India - 25.5
- Slovakia, the lowest, most “communist one” as Americans say - 24.1
- Couldn’t find the Gini for Saudi Arabia, but I am sure it’s similar to its neighbors, which dingle around the mid 20s or low 30s.
Now look at these 12 war crimes the USA has done:
- Iran 1953 - CIA + MI6 overthrew Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh after he nationalized oil.
- Guatemala 1954 - CIA toppled President Jacobo Árbenz after he pushed land reforms that were hated by U.S. corporations (United Fruit Company).
- Congo 1960 - The U.S. indirectly supported the removal and 86 of Patrice Lumumba and backed Mobutu’s dictatorship.
- South Vietnam 1963 - CIA green-lit the coup that ousted and 86 Ngo Dinh Diem.
- Brazil 1964 - CIA supported the right-wing military junta that removed President João Goulart.
- Chile 1970 - CIA spent millions trying to block Allende’s election, then supported the military coup that put Pinochet in power.
- Nicaragua 1980 - U.S. illegally funded the Contras to destabilize the Sandinista government.
- Afghanistan 1979 - U.S. funded and armed the mujahideen to bleed the Soviets, destabilizing the region for decades (and indirectly creating conditions for the Taliban).
- Iraq 2003 - Full-scale invasion removing Saddam Hussein, plunging country into chaos and sectarian war.
- Lybia 2011 - NATO intervention helped topple Gaddafi, leading to civil war, militias, and slave markets.
- Honduras 2009 - Not a CIA coup, but U.S. tacitly supported the military-backed ouster of President Zelaya by legitimizing the new government.
- Syria 2011 - CIA’s “Timber Sycamore” program armed various rebel factions, worsening the civil war.
Am I still supposed to believe America is good? If your goal is to make me despise it, I guess you are doing a good job then, lol. The USA is just Mexico 2.0, White Mexico as some us call it here. I am still heavily ashamed of admiring the USA for almost 20 years of my young life. I used to think it was our greatest chance, as humanity, to build a country that was diverse in culture, accepting and rich. I even cried for Bradley Cooper’s character in American Sniper. I swallowed all the propaganda movies and TV shows like Marvel fed us, games like Fallout or CoD that constantly portray the Chinese and Russians as evil in a white and black way. All that, I am glad I grew out of. The American Dream never existed, it was always a nightmare. All those Mexicans’ deaths are on Americans’ hands, for giving the cartels the weapons and the money. Americans are their biggest consumers. They forced us to join this pointless war on drugs and so on. To be honest, everything that is happening and is going to happen to America is well-deserved. Everything they enjoy is covered in blood.
You seem pretty mixed up.
Glorify china. Glorify america. I wouldn’t chose to do either.
I certainly wouldn’t chose to glorify Mao.
If you want to bring china to america, thats pretty misguided. Good luck to you. It will never be a reality I have to deal with.
If there was something worth fighting for, it wouldn’t be that.
Now, if you want to cause human suffering in the states, youre right on track.
I rather live in a country with a homicide rate of 0.5 than one with 5.7. Actually, I will combine USA and Mexico, because their deaths are on USA’s hands. That is about a rate of 30.0, which is insane, dude. Absolutely insane that you are fighting for that.
China is coming to Mexico. We have cut so many ties with American suppliers and businesses to instead open new deals with the Chinese. All thanks to the tariffs. We will allow and help them do whatever they want near the border too. We will support them with whatever they need to remove this lousy neighbor we have upstairs, and there will be nothing Americans can do about that without looking like Nazi Germany.
It is thanks to people like you that keep the American Dream alive in the heads of centrists and MAGAs that Mexican Cartels, Russians, Chinese, Arabs, Indians, Africans and some Europeans are sending thousands of their people into America all thanks to Trump’s Gold Cards. As that Russian General, Nikita Khrushchev once said: “We do not have to invade the United States, we will make it ours from within” and also “You Americans are so gullible. No, you won’t accept communism outright, but we’ll keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you’ll finally wake up and find you already have communism. We won’t have to fight you. We’ll so weaken your economy until you’ll fall like overripe fruit into our hands.” They were NOT joking at all. They nailed it so well.
How much money have you donated to promising candidates’ campaigns in your life? Less than 10,000$? That will never make an impact. We have an unfathomable amount of money, governments and cartels do, and we will use it to get our own politicians elected in every single State. We will force you to choose between politician A which appeals to empathy, or politician B which appeals to sympathy, and sometimes apathy too because Americans are mentally ill, rabid and violent. You don’t even have a quarter of what the average baby boomer had at your age, like 7+ children (in Mexico, in the USA the Fertility Rate was 6.0+), a big home for them, economics stability… No, instead, you keep crying about AAA videogames raising their price 10 or 20 mere bucks, about housing and healthcare costs, about RAM prices… You treat Steam Sales like ponds of water in a dry desert. You celebrate and feel genuine joy when you buy an indie game at a discount, from 15 dollars down to 10, because you are so fucking broke. People are getting their first home at an average of 54 years old today. The fertility rate in the USA, Mexico, China, Japan and more are below 2.1, which means the population is shrinking, people cannot afford to have a family of at least 3 children as they should, but at least China has 1.4 billion people already, they probably don’t need more right now, you in the other hand, you will, especially thanks to ICE. More and more people are lonely, don’t have a partner, have never had sex, have never experienced real genuine love, the warmth of a partner around your arms while you slide your hand under their underwear and have fun at the privacy of your own home. After people turn 30, the chances of having problems with pregnancies arise significantly, children come out with disabilities more often. The clock is ticking, and you are still using your time to try and convince people that China is worse or “equally bad” as the USA, so that people never get to see what they could be doing better themselves. You don’t need to invite China in, you just have to grab what works for them and apply it yourselves, but you won’t do that, because as I said, Americans are mentally ill. You see outsiders as enemies, as irredeemable demons you should never associate yourself with. You don’t learn other languages nor read books or a long post like this one because you think you are the center of the world, the smartest, the best, and that everyone should be sucking your dick, while in fact you have always been this monster. I mean, last night I saw that post that said there was a village called Seneca Village, a thriving black community your racist ass politicians demolished and erased from existence to build your famous Central Park out of spite. I investigated a little further and found out that you’ve done that to so many black communities around the country. Even the White House was built by black slaves. You have always been this disgusting racist evil monster that only cares about itself, money, and power. You did NOT join WWII to save the Jews or because you felt bad for them, you did it because you didn’t want Germany to become more powerful than you. You are not a savior, you only cause death and destruction everywhere you go. It was about time you elected Trump and removed the mask completely. Trump has been the best thing that has happened to American Haters and also American Patriots, because there is now no excuses left. You either fix the country, or die with it, and it seems it’s going to be the latter looking at how weakened and inactive Americans are. It’s over, dude. Just, sit down and enjoy your movies, your videogames, your TV shows until time catches up, because there is absolutely nothing else you can do about this. Soon, it’s going to be Trump Jr. the one who will run for the presidency, and he will win. And then his son, and the son of his son and so on…
Is that what you are fighting for? How are you going to fight like that? Are you going to keep people dreaming about what the “American Dream” should be like? You are the one causing more human suffering than I am. At least I have the balls to say these things that should help you if you know how to use it. You will keep telling people that China is worse than America, China is worse than America, China is worse than America, so they never ever look at what the other side of the world looks like. Keep them in their ignorance. Do not let them learn from others. That’s your goal and your mission here, to serve the oligarchs, to serve the interests of capitalists. This is why they made you hate China this bad, so that you keep rooting for that homicidal rate of 30.0+, for that Gini coefficient of 41.8. You are doing a great job at destroying America from within. People who hate America like me love people like you so much. Keep telling people that China is worse, please. I can’t wait to see America die, all thanks to people like you and your endless loyalty and support to us.
You could instead convince people that there are countries more powerful than theirs doing better, instead of feeding their ego and keeping them blind. I dislike so many things about the CCP myself, they are not perfect, but compared to America… Oh boy. You should be taking notes from them, not dismiss them like you constantly do. Otherwise, you will never get rid of billionaires or the elite class, and therefor you are fighting for absolutely nothing but keeping the world as it currently is. The fact is that you NEED socialism and communism to make a better world. An unchecked capitalism is destroying us. Stop trying to pretend that you can fix it. You will need communist and socialist policies to do that.
There is a livestreamfail on reddit that character assassinates this guy, because of israel surely.
The livestream fail Reddit is ran by Dan Saltman, a Zionist who bans all criticism of Israel and only leaves up right wing propaganda.
Don’t forget Saltman is a pedophile apologist. He’s likely a pedophile and rapist himself.
