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      The problem with realistic climate change solutions is, that they often involve things like “consume less” and “degrowth”, to which very rich and powerful people seem to be allergic.

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        Which is also why they pushed recycling so much. Doesn’t stop your consumption.

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        In fairness, the machine can not stop or go in reverse. It’ll tear itself apart violently

        It also can’t go forward much further before it runs out of gas, so… We could prepare for that, but I think we’re just going to cover up the fuel gauge and hope for the best

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          It could slow down. But people think we can have infinite growth in a finite system.

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            It can’t slow down, or you get increasingly large bubbles

            Like the AI bubble. The US economy has slowed down in nearly every other area, so everyone put the money into AI, the one growth area. Which made the bubble bigger, and more attractive for investment, and so on

            Now when the AI bubble pops, it’s going to create bills no one can pay. And if we manage through that crisis, the next one will be larger. It’s the nature of a debt based economy

            This ends in a jubilee, where the debts are forgiven, through hyperinflation, where the debts are shrunk into nothing, or the people in charge keep arguing about it until the starving peasants burst in

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    Every half generation, some unfortunate people discover carob cannot replace chocolate. Sometimes this causes real trauma during repeated attempts

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    As a child, some of mother’s friends were really into healthy alternatives and stuff. One day that one make carob cookies instead of chocolate chip cookies.

    I fucking CRIED as a kid eating them. They were so sad and wrong and these adults are telling me they taste exactly the same and they were lying why are they lying meltdown.

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        Only if you freeze it - and I’d freeze cocoa powder. Can’t leave it stored at room temperature - there’s too much cocoa butter solids, even in the powder, so it’s perishable.

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    Ugh, my kids were vegan for a while, so I did my best to make vegan alternatives for the things they loved. They were pretty happy with the vegan carob chip cookies, but they tasted like sadness to me. Like “Oh! This is vaguely like something wonderful… Too bad it misses the mark.”

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    given how they keep on adultering chocalate to a worse and worse taste I can see carob taking over from wherever it ends at.

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      the biggest fuck-you to chocolate is companies like Hersheys processing much of the cocoa butter out and replacing it with PGPR - poly glycerin poly ricinate - which is a castor bean derived oil… and it’s bitter and the texture is absolutely NOT similar to cocoa butter.

      Part of why I no longer eat Reese’s peanut butter cups. Can taste it and the chocolate isn’t nearly as smooth as it used to be. It’s nasty.

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    I enjoyed carob as a kid and would like to be able to find some in shops today. It’s not the same as chocolate, but I’m okay with the logic behind multiple food items differing.

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      I loved carob as a kid, tried some recently and it was pretty bad.

      I assume it’s something to do with how it’s processed, since it’s not like raw cocoa beans are very nice either.

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    For any candy that includes HFCS, might as well switch it to carob, stop ruining real chocolate.

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    No. It’s not a replacement.unless they make itess waxy.