Police now want to drop charges against a man they arrested last year for wearing a F*** Israel F*** Zionism t-shirt. But the man, Andrew Brown, wants his day in court. Michael West reports on a big test for free speech.
If I wore a “Fuck the USA, Fuck MAGA” shirt would I get arrested? No. Complete overreach.
That’s a pretty bold assumption considering they’ve already arrested people for less.
Heck there have been people arrested for posting Trump or Charlie Kirk comments unedited.
It’s still overreach but they’re definitely getting away with walking all over the law.
Heck there have been people arrested for posting Trump or Charlie Kirk comments unedited.
In Australia?
I had no idea there were so many Far Right American MAGA’s at Bondi Beach?
In order to offend someone, there has to be someone to offend ;)
Pro-Palestine Bondi Beach protest turns violent | 7NEWS
https://youtu.be/BS_5_4wyLFk?t=24
On the other hand we do know that if you attempt to even walk near Muslims they will threaten to arrest you:
Activist reporter Lauren Southern who is currently touring Australia with popular alt-media philosopher Stefan Molyneux, was warned by police not to visit a mosque in Lakemba, a predominantly Muslim area in Sydney’s western suburbs. Her plan was to observe the “culture” in Lakemba and to interview people outside of the mosque.
But before she could get there, she was apprehended by a senior police officer, who warned her that if she continued, her actions may incite a serious breach of the peace. His first line of questioning included asking her where she planned to walk next. In a video of the exchange, the flatfoot is seen to tell her that he has “grave concerns” that she will cause an “imminent breach of the peace” if she continues on towards the mosque and asks her not to go there.
https://www.spectator.com.au/2018/08/how-lauren-southern-exposes-a-double-standard/
So yeah, if there was a large group of MAGA’s and far right Americans in Bondi (instead of Jews) and you wore that shirt you too would probably get moved on
I feel like if you approach a mosque on behalf of a far-right, white supremacist cult, to “investigate them” for your far-right, white supremacist friends, your intentions are not likely to be peaceful and honourable.
That sounds like the correct call from the police.
your intentions are not likely to be peaceful and honourable.
Well we’ll never know because she accepted what the police had to say and moved on, but I do have to admit it is quite odd that Muslims can’t simply reply to a white woman asking questions? Are Muslims unable to handle criticism?
Oh right…
(Also Sydney)
Anyway…
That sounds like the correct call from the police.
Agreed, the guy was being an offensive dickhead, glad we’re both on the same page.
It sounds like the police over reacted. Hope he wins
Haven’t read the article yet but was the shirt “fuck Jews” or “fuck Israel?”
Edit : It was a “fuck Israel, fuck Zionism” shirt.
Looks like this. Who knows where the money goes.
“Zionist” is a term used by anti-semites in an attempt to make anti-semitsm acceptable in polite circles.
Just as anti-semitism was created by the anti-judaic crowd in the late 19th century to make hating Jews cool back then too.
Antisemites have been playing this game of swapping terminology for a long time. Maybe this guy was fooled by it, and maybe you dear reader, have been fooled by it as well. But don’t expect the rest of society to be fooled by the same anti-semitic bullshit that has been going on for centuries as you have. Trying to force the rest of society to go along with your anti-semitc terminology is not going to go well.
Just because it’s cool in your circles to hate on Jews, and you may think you’re fooling people with your “clever” change in terminology (even if you were fooled by it yourself) it’s just not a good look for you.
Zionist is an explicit term with an explicit meaning, not a euphemism or dogwhistle.
Zionism is an organised ethnocultural nationalist movement for the creation of a Jewish state through the complete colonization of the Palestinian state. The term “Zionist” was explicitly created by Jews - not anyone anti-Judeic or anti-Semitic. See for example the First Zionist Congress created by Theodor Herzl.
Zionism is a political movement, not a religious or race.
Nobody cares much nowadays for hearing the lie that to be anti-Zionist is the same as being anti-Semitic, because it’s a lie told to deflect any criticism of Zionist politicians and the Israeli government.
You’re a Zionist, yet you’re not Jewish. So how does that work then?
I am disgusted by what you stand for, in exactly the same way, and for the exact same reasons that I abhor what Netanyahu stands for. Only one of you is Jewish. The target of my opposition is genocidal settler colonialism, not race, not religion. So how can my anti-Zionism equate to antisemitism?Once again SpaceCowboy, you are talking absolute arse gravy of the lowest calibre.
I’ve read history books and I see people saying the same kinds of bullshit antisemitic rationalizations being used today as was used in the past.
If you were willing to learn history you wouldn’t be so prone to repeat the mistakes of the past. Many of us have and we recognize the pattern you’re following.
That’s a load of vague finger pointing you’re doing there.
Nothing of any substance at all.You’re not the first to find alternate way of labeling Jews to make antisemitism palatable. Read a history book FFS, you’re following a pattern.
Man you want to be a victim so badly.
I’m labelling YOU, and you’re not Jewish. I don’t apply the label “Zionist” to Jews who aren’t in support of Israel’s genocidal policies.
So, again, I am not labelling Jews.
It’s a term created by Jews to self-identify as being anti-Palestinean. Are you a liar or just stupid? I think we know.
No, you made that up.
It is merely a term for having a state for (primarily) Jews in the Levant.
Some Zionists want all of the Levant including parts of Egypt, Jordan, Syria. Unfortunately there a few of these in government currently.
https://www.annefrank.org/en/topics/antisemitism/are-all-jews-zionists/
You could take 10 seconds to google “origin of the word antisemitism” if you don’t want to look silly.
But methinks you’re afraid to learn anything about the history of antisemitism since you might find out you’re following the exact pattern of racists in the past.
You should take your own advice and look up what and where “zionist” means and came from. 🤦♂️
You should look up the word “rootless cosmopolitan” and “globalist”. Your little hate group isn’t the first to come up with an alternate term for Jews in an attempt to popularize antisemitism. Nothing you’re doing is new or clever. It’s the same old shit that has happened throughout history again and again. You think hairsplitting over the terminology you’re using is going to make people not see your pattern of behaviour?
You can talk about the origin. But we all know exactly what it means now: people who want to expand Israel land area to encompass more (or all) of Palestine.
This isn’t some ambiguous political term. It is quite simple. If you think it is offensive, stop advocating for that future.
ProPals are the ones who redefined it. Just because you are essentially in an echo chamber here doesn’t make you correct.
You’re pre-supposing what other people think to rationalize your hatred. This is the tactic of a hate group.
The very first time i herd the term zionist used was by a pro zionist jewish man. So clearly your asssertion isnt 100% accurate.
Yeah this is my experience as well. Also were im from people can have all sorts of things on shirts and maybe a restaurant may not let you dine if they find it offensive but the police can’t just arrest you for your shirt.
Yes, 7000$ checks has finally and openly hit Lemmy, and fake history lessons, mixed with hollow sounding words, to make an absolute zio scum sounds anything else than he/she is really is, a zio scum
Looking at his comment history, he manage to be hated even in technical posts, plus everything else.
Apparently some people are really just naturally like that, no financial incentive required. I can’t understand why.
Or he’s really just a troll and doesn’t even believe what he says. He just enjoy the many posts that follow his comments.
You actually make a great point, I think he just likes to post shit comments and thrives on being down voted and humiliated at the same time, it doesn’t seem like he actually holds any actual opinions, not even once he tried to engage or at least defend his point of view
100% They don’t even hide it:
In the video the nurses threatened to harm and kill Israelis
“The frustration and anger directed at Israel is a direct response to its violent and inhumane policies — not an expression of hatred toward Jewish people.”
🤣
Murder some more kids. Nothing your sde ever does or says is wrong, you’re always the victim you’re right.
i haven’t murdered any kids? are you confused or having fantasies about who i am because you live in a left wing echo chamber online?
what a dickhead
“I was sitting on the wall at Bondi, doing nothing more dramatic than wearing a shirt.
Shit stirrer playing the fool, what a surprise
