Which of these isn’t real?
You keep saying I’m divorced from reality, but which of these things do you think isn’t real?
The alternative was Trump. Harris posing for some photo ops to try to pick up some GOP moderate votes doesn’t change the fact her opponent was Trump.
If some people wouldn’t vote for Harris because of some photo ops with Cheney, those would be people in the ignorant group I’m talking about.
It’s internet real…
Somebody really posted that on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/shitizdogra_firing-layoffs-job-activity-7271758403717214211-l-FG/
And if you search on LinkedIn for “Ashu Arora Jha” there is an account that looks real.
Whether or not it actually real and not just internet real is anybody’s guess. But it’s not something OP made up anyway.
Been using hotmail a lot lately to figure out why some emails my company is sending out on behalf of one of our customers aren’t being delivered to hotmail.com (and outlook.com, live.com, msn.com, etc) accounts. The customer we’re sending email for is Microsoft.
Hey they got good spam detection at least.
The campaign was fine. Americans are the problem. They’re too ignorant.
If we’re going to blame this ignorance on anyone we might consider blaming the media. Odd how we aren’t seeing a lot of articles from the media saying the media failing to give information to people about how bad Trump is. But linked above is something from the media blaming a political campaign for not doing their jobs for them.
Still not doing any introspection about waiting until after the election to explain why Trump’s “economic plan” will be a disaster, huh? Didn’t bother to explain anything about what causes inflation. Wouldn’t want people to think it’s something to do with it being a free market, and not caused by the government. Nope, it’s up to the campaigns to explain economics to people in 30 second TV spots.
So the media will continue blame the Democrats for all the problems, while wondering “why couldn’t the democrats win the election”? Must be the democrats fault! It’s like we’ve always been saying, it’s always their fault! We should never think about what the effect of us blaming one party for everything might be.
But mostly it was just Americans taking democracy for granted. Don’t know what you got until you’ve lost it I guess.
So basically spambots are fine as long as they are spouting something political?
It’s a firehouse of falsehood kind of thing. Fragment people’s concept of reality to the point where people can’t even have a conversation.
The “question your beliefs” crowd is just people trying to create an alternate (and false) narrative so they can control you.
And that’s all hexbear ever does. People not as naive as you are about these things find them to be a waste of time and they do nothing other than interrupt actual conversations based in reality. Which isn’t healthy for a discussion forum.
So you don’t believe that George Washington owned slaves? Talk about making up a reality in your head.
You were indoctrinated from a young age to believe in the myth of the Founding Fathers. Everything you heard in school, all the the monuments, the faces printed on your currency all reinforce your beliefs. So I understand that it’s not easy to accept that these guys were the Elon Musks and Donald Trumps of their times. But it’s not some dead slave masters that guarantee your rights. This mentality results in apathy and taking rights for granted which made the US susceptible to fascism. Mythologizing a false past leads to people wanting to go back to that false past.
I wouldn’t go so far as to say MAGA is about wanting to go back to full on slavery, but there is a feeling there that people of certain ethnicities should “know their place”. And people certainly “knew their place” when the Founding Fathers were running things didn’t they?
Yes, people that already agree with Michael Moore like him. But to anyone that doesn’t already agree with him, he’s smug and obnoxious. I agree with most of what he says, but find him grating, he’s not going to change anyone’s mind about anything.
Both exist in their own circle jerk, and neither groups are able to talk and listen to each other.
The nature of social media. People don’t talk to each other on social media. They talk at each other. People aren’t trying to change people’s minds about anything, they’re writing things to prove to people that are already on “their side” how loyal they are to a cause by insulting those who aren’t. People write their opinions under their own names and what they wrote in the past is always there because nothing on the internet can ever really be deleted. This calcifies people’s opinions. Add followers to the mix then you have your own personal audience that’s there because they like what you’ve said in the past. So there’s a strong disincentive to never change, and a strong incentive to attack those not within the group.
It takes effort to get out of this rut and actually talk to people. Social media has deluded us into thinking that it can result in a positive change, but it’s only endless arguments that accomplish nothing because nobody in the social media rut will ever change. And because people feel like they’re making positive change for dunking on the whateverists that are incompatible with mywhateverism, less happens through more productive channels of activism.
Kinda sad that it takes a murder to break people out of their respective bubbles. And I’m not optimistic about people not returning to their respective bubbles as soon as the next thing to be angry at each other over is offered up.
Couldn’t agree more. Socialists with their hammers and sickles and Che Guevara t-shirts are accomplishing nothing. People need to let go of their fantasy of having people they disagree with them someday saying “I was completely wrong about socialism, you were right, I will never doubt you again!”
Though at this point Americans don’t even like the term “New Deal” because they’ve been told the economic policies of FDR (which pulled the country out of the Great Depression) were bad. So “Great America Deal” may not work. Biden tried “Build Back Better” but that was too lame. But yeah, gotta find a phrase people like and put it on a hat.
We’re already paying for their private jets and super yachts. At least making them paying for a security team means some more jobs for regular people. And they will need to pay their Praetorians well if they don’t want those guys to turn on them.
If capitalism were working correctly, this would be a great business opportunity for smaller companies which wouldn’t have CEOs with expensive private jets and praetorians. But capitalism isn’t working so well at the moment.
Yes it’s typical of the modern “socialist movement” to consider the entire working class to be “nobodies”.
This is why socialism is a joke. Capitalism has successfully packaged it as product to be sold to edgy teenagers.
George Washington also owned slaves. As did most of your Founding Fathers: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/sep/10/arlen-parsa/evidence-shows-most-47-men-famous-declaration-inde/
The founding principles of the USA were around rights and freedoms for land owning white men only. Everyone else were meant to serve them. Which is more consistent with the principles of Elon Musk than with your principles.
Though he’s still a significantly better man than Musk on the whole.
Thomas Jefferson literally owned slaves. Elon Musk offered to buy a horse for an employee to get a handy, while Jefferson raped his slaves. Jefferson was way more “flawed” than Elon Musk is.
Most of the founding father fucking owned slaves.
Elon Musk writes about rights and freedoms. Thomas Jefferson wrote about right and freedoms. Elon Musk is shit to the workers he gets his wealth from. Thomas Jefferson got his wealth from slaves. Elon Musk sexually harasses his female workers. Thomas Jefferson impregnated his slaves.
Elon Musk and the other billionaires are being 100% consistent with the Founding Fathers you idolize. This is why arguing that these billionaire assholes aren’t “in keeping with the Founding Fathers” is so weak. Deep down we all know that these guys are acting exactly like the Founding Fathers. It really makes sense for so many people to think Trump, Musk and all the other scumbags are like the Founding Fathers because they actually are. They just aren’t like the mythologized Founding Fathers that you believe in. But the Founding Fathers you believe in never existed.
The actual people were just a group of rich slave masters that wanted to take away more land from indigenous people. They wrote some nice words about rights and freedoms to fool people into being willing to die to serve their interests. Which is exactly what MAGA is all about isn’t it? Rich people talking big about rights and freedoms to get people to support them having more power.
No socialist movement will ever succeed if the working class isn’t onboard with it. A trust fund baby like Vaush doesn’t appeal to the working class.
Didn’t they teach that to you in your poli-sci classes?
I’m saying they’re in the same business. Sure Joe Rogan is more successful than Vaush, but they’re doing the same thing.
They both create para-social communities (which is why you feel the need to stick up for him) where they create controversy to generate revenue. Just because you have a para-social relationship with Vaush doesn’t make you any different than those that have a para-social relationship with Joe Rogan.
You honestly think Vaush would turn down a $250M contract with spotify if it were offered?
If you do then be sure go to https://vaush.gg/merch and buy some shit to support your “socialist” hero (who is currently worth over $2M) LOL. Maybe if Vaush has the same level of wealth as Joe Rogan we’ll be living in a socialist paradise, because that’s how things work, right?
Monetized socialism is the future!
The point is that you’re angry at some people and want them to be afraid of you?
Yeah I know the point, but it’s not a healthy way to think about things. A bit fashy.
I thought the purpose of the US founding fathers was to gain power to prevent the British government from having a say in abolishing slavery. Also so they could ignore the treaty the British made with the Indigenous peoples living to the west of the 13 colonies. They wanted that land and didn’t like those assholes in London preventing westward expansion via genocide.
These people have been so intent on gathering money and power, they haven’t realized why the founding fathers did the exact opposite.
You might be surprised about how consistent they are with the “Founding Fathers” by saying some nice words about “freedom” while their actions say the opposite. The American Revolution didn’t fundamentally alter things (slavery existed before and after the revolution) it only changed who was in power. Pretty words on a paper didn’t give people freedom. It was people voting, unionizing, and oh yeah, a bloody civil war that brought freedom. And then even more voting and unionizing and protesting for over a century.
The US is a weird place not too dissimilar from the society depicted in 1984, just with Big Brother replaced by Founding Father. Founding Father isn’t watching over you. Founding Father was hypocritical slave-master that would have more in common with the likes of Elon Musk than they would ever have with you.
Writing nice words about freedom while acquiring wealth from the work of slaves, isn’t that consistent with Elon Musk?
Image of a guy in an SS uniform being happy that a lifeform which was trying to defend it’s home from invasion is afraid.
I don’t think that image is saying what you think it’s saying.
The democrats that stayed home are most certainly in the group I called ignorant Americans. People couldn’t see the difference between Harris and Trump, “ignorant” is being generous.
If people understood how the economy worked at all, then it would have been a strength and she wouldn’t have been on the defensive about it. And do you think the majority of Americans who voted for Trump would have changed their mind if she was running on an “anti-business” platform? Trump who was proposing tariffs would solve inflation?
We literally had a candidate for President telling people to watch her opponents rallies. Why was that? Because the media only wanted to show pundits arguing over something because ratings. Everyone seeing him as the bat-shit lunatic he is doesn’t give them anything to debate. So they had to sane wash what he was saying to give the pundits something to talk about. Harris has to have an economic plan. Trump, well his plan is batshit so don’t talk about it. Why isn’t Harris doing more interviews? Trump… well he’s not doing interviews because he’s too batshit, nothing to discuss there.
But sure believe the media when they blame the democrats for not doing the media’s job. If I were more conspiracy minded I might say they didn’t want to explain anything so the dems would have to explain things via ad spots the media made money from. But never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence.
The media is failing to explain anything because they’ve been too distracted by Trump for a fucking decade. But as long as they can blame their failures on the democrats (which does have an impact on the dems getting elected ya know) they aren’t going to change.
This ain’t new either. I had to learn about how vaccines from a youtuber that plays Mario Maker. Despite the covid vaccine being one of the biggest stories of the decade, they didn’t bother to cover anything about it’s development and testing. It was just Trump Trump Trump Vaccine Trump Trump Trump… Why don’t people trust the vaccine? Why oh why don’t people know that the vaccine is safe?
Same fucking thing this year. Trump Trump Trump TRUMP ELECTED! Trump Trump… why don’t people understand that inflation has been handled and tariffs will only bring it back?