Why to sell? Insulin is not an adiction, it is life saving and life prolonging medicine. I am not paying for insulin, I am getting 6 pens per month for free. Insulin must be free for everyone that need it.
$11
As it should be
No it’s not, all necessary healthcare should be free at the point of use. As should be basic housing and food.
To me it sounds insane that you have to pay for insulin, which you must have in order to survive. If anything, I would think that $11 per pen is still at or above the cost price for the manufacturer, insulin is dirt cheap to make once you have the production line.
All that said, this is of course a step in the right direction. I won’t be surprised if there’s a wave of media attacks on him a month from now, all suspiciously linked to some shady ad firm with ties to big pharma.
We’ll see how many red-staters cross state lines to buy their evil, demonic $11 insulin.
and still spit fire und fury about that bein communism or something
“I deserve-it/actually-need-it not like those other free loaders” is a very real attitude that many Americans have.
Watch them take advantage of this while acting like “California is the worst state”
I have family that loves to say this. They moved from CA to live in a red, welfare state that siphons more federal funding than they generate.
I remind them often that my state pays for their state.
Holy shit, I can’t believe this is real
What took them so long?
Go away.
“Myeeeeh I have to find something to complain about this objectively good thing that is occuring”
Controversial take (though maybe not in this community):
If it’s needed for survival, it should be free. No exceptions.
I would much prefer my taxes go toward making insulin to give away than bombs to give away.
I’d even, gasp, go so far as to say I’d happily give it away to citizens and illegal immigrants alike. Oh hell, everyone on the planet. No strings attached.
This is where my taxes should go. I can’t stand the rhetoric that it’s bad tax payers are footing the bill for those without insurance and those here illegally. That’s what a society is supposed to do.
Devil’s advocate: Medi-CAL (California’s Medicaid program, already known for being very permissive) will likely already cover it for the eligible, and should the $11 be used in aggregate to cover distribution and manufacturing for all of California’s citizens, it would be a reasonable rate to keep the program self-sustaining.
Allotting an exception for the payment for those who may have difficulty seems like a reasonable way to cover any gaps while making sure it never runs into the red.
Well America voted against food being considered essential for survival…
that’s how it works in most of europe with our socialist healthcare system
Of course, but what California is doing is awesome, so why shit all over it?
I’m not. It’s a step in the right direction.
$11 per month, that’s only about double what it costs in most of the world. Wait… Still $11 PER PEN
Wtf did it cost before!!??
At 3ml/pen and 100units/ml, that puts it on par (retail price) with Canada and Germany and around 50% more than France and UK.
As with a lot of US health prices, listed prices are massively inflated compared to average out of pocket expenses, creating horrible holes for uninsured people. In the US there are some recent caps for insulin cost of $35/month at the low end, and other caps in the $100/month range from what I’ve read.
Here is a good price comparison https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11147642/
As a former pharmacy worker in California, anywhere from $40 to $200, depending on the patient’s insurance. There’s a reason Eli Lily and other companies monitor the supply truck drivers and call the cops if they stop.
As a Newsom hater, I have to admit this is a big win for everyone. While he’s still very far from an actual solution to the country’s root problems - you can vote for him (if that’s an option), and then continue protesting and pushing for more reforms. I’m not quite as optimistic to believe this will happen, let alone succeed, but it’s an idea.
Newsom can be shamed into doing the right thing. Trump/Vance/Miller will disappear the shamers. Completely different realities.
The most transphobic version of Newsom is a return to needing several doctors to write a letter saying you are trans. We’re already seeing Trump denying the right to exist and forcing the next generation of trans kids into navigating black markets for T shots or forced to grow with the wrong hormones.
No need to stop at insulin.
Gotta start somewhere.
What I don’t like is that it follows the piecemeal approach that centrist liberals do where it is always too little and ineffective for the entire population which makes it mostly invisible.
“Let’s do socialism for 11% of the people while everyone else gets to pay taxes and get nothing”.
“Perfect is the enemy of the good”
Yeah no progress until we can instantly have 100% goal attainment!
Don’t forget to not vote next midterms or primaries to show Newsom and the Dems we mean business!
I’m getting really tired of defending progress from attacks by progressives.
Like I said: gotta start somewhere.
My point is that the start is so small that it allows republicans to demonize and ultimately kill it since it doesn’t help the vast majority of people.
Edit: as pointed out below, these numbers are for type 1 and 2, so the population is requiring insulin is much lower than this.
Among the U.S. population overall, crude estimates for 2021 were:
• 38.4 million people of all ages—or 11.6% of the U.S. population—had diabetes.
• 38.1 million adults aged 18 years or older—or 14.7% of all U.S. adults—had diabetes (Table 1a; Table 1b).
https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/php/data-research/index.html
Sure, the majority of folks don’t have diabetes, but come on, this affects a huge number of people, and I would bet that a vast, vast majority of people at least know someone with diabetes.
And yes, those are national whereas this is California—but it’s also about changing hearts and minds. When someone from Texas, struggling to pay for their kid’s insulin, learns about this, they might just question some things.
Sometimes that may be true but neurologically, empathy is often driven by experience and most people have a relative with diabetes and many people have a diabetic relative who struggles financially with it. This would be hard to demonize.
You’ve given up before you’ve even began (believe me, I know that feeling).
But don’t let your paralysis leak out to other people. If you see someone taking baby steps to make this world better, you be their cheerleader. You give them your energy so that they can take bigger strides.
And who knows, maybe in the process you’ll have taken your first baby steps too.
I don’t want to go down the rabbit hole, but I’m wondering is this ia CA paying the difference on what would be price gouging, or CA actually controlling the process, to erase any opportunity for that price gouging. That latter would likely be permanent, the former would last only as long as the administration isn’t seeking budget cuts.
They’re partnering with a non-profit 501©(3) generic manufacturer that was set up by groups of hospitals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civica_Rx
Seems as legit as you’re going to find in the US.
Congratulations, you barely achieved the bare fucking minimum. Go fuck yourself, free healthcare for everyone!
Do you comprehend the complexity of the shitty system we exist in?
If you want finger snap type shit you only need to look at trump for how well it actually works in the capitalistic world we live in.
All or nothing, right. /s
Hard to know how youse all end up with nothing so often
Congratulations, you achieved a good first step. This could the beginning of the pathway to free healthcare for everyone!
FTFY
Perfect is the enemy of good.
Real, and people wonder why Kamala lost.
The way people like OP spit in the face of everything that’s remote progress, I literally can’t tell them apart from MAGA commenters the majority of the time.
They oppose the exact same policies.
CA is 175 years old as a US state.
1 socialized prescription drug per 175 years with over 19,000 prescription drugs regulated by the FDA.
We will have socialized prescription drugs in 3,325,000 years in n CA. 175/1 = 3,325,000/19,000
This is now perfectly organized for the people that believe in centrist liberal baby steps.
