Details of post-summit call were leaked in which US president supports plan for Kyiv to give up Donbas region
Donald Trump will back a plan to cede unoccupied Ukrainian territory to Russia to secure an end to the war between the two countries, it was reported on Saturday, after details of his post-summit call with European leaders leaked out.
Trump told European leaders that he believed a peace deal could be negotiated if the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, agreed to give up the Donbas region, which Russian invaders have not been able to seize in over three years of fighting, the New York Times reported, citing to two senior European officials.
Two sources with direct knowledge of the talks in Alaska told the Guardian that Putin demanded Ukraine withdraw from Donbas, which is made up of the Donestk and Luhansk regions, as a condition for ending the war, but offered Trump a freeze along the remaining frontline.
I back ceding Donald Trump and Mar a Lago to Putin.
Only if we can send the building over to them. Maybe drop it right on top of Putin’s house.
European intervention is looking like the only option now. because America is a captured state. there are only bad options now. and Europe is more than a year behind reality,
they sat on their hands hoping Kamala would win, and that they’d be allowed to continue offshoring their own defense matters to America, she didnt
so they sat on their hands hoping Trump wouldn’t be who everyone thought he would be, He was exactly what everyone thought he’d be.
so they sat on their hands hoping he would change with time. He didn’t, he accelerated his agenda and threw kerosone on the world by Parroting Putin, advocating Bibi, and Bombing Iran.
So they sat on their hands hoping he’d have a change of heart. And he rolled out the red carpet for the most honored guest, VVP.
Trump is an Ally of the Russian Mafia, Article 5 is already useless in terms of America, America wont go to war with Russia even if a KAB landed in Berlin tonight. Europe ought to consider their choices ahead.
Option 1 > Stop Bleating at America, Stop insisting that America Negotiate on Ukraines behalf in a specific way, and show some fucking teeth, and prepare for war.
Option 2 > Keep bleating at America, and accept Russia controls your politics now, and probably watch as your alliance disintegrates in 3 years when a military conflict breaks out in Latvia and no one wants to go to war with Russia.
Zelenskyy says NO. So does EU
Neither of them have the resources to continue the fight. This was always on America’s dime, because national security had been outsourced to private American businesses
I guess. Yeah. That’s why Trunp can call the shots. Which he appears to be doing. The EU is in a world of hurt given that Trump fluffs Putin.
Go fuck yourself with an umbrella, cheeto
He was talking so tough before he saw his pimp, now he’s got his tail between his leg and he changed his tune
What the hell do you expect when two criminals meet. Fuck Vlad and and his orange sock puppet. The EU and Ukraine already know they will have to contain the Russians without the MAGAt fuckers.
I like how you call him a sock puppet. It’s a perfect analogy since his other use is to be Putin’s cum sock.
Trump is an imbecile. His grave is going to be a gender neutral bathroom for the rest of human history.
I would use that bathroom.
who the fuck does he think he is to “negotiate” ceding someone else’s territory? (I’m not expecting any answers, the oompa loompa simply defies all logic)
something something, Alpha country, Beta country, Having cards, not having cards.
In all seriousness. these are people who have been parroting the same Kremlin lies that were confidentley asserting that Ukraine was already defeated like 1 month in and that everything after that was just prolonged suffering. These people are either Cowards, or Complicit. or both.
It’s comically and frustratingly obvious that his “ideas” are simply “whatever the last guy he talked to said”
That’s the dementia. At this point he is increasingly acting senile.
Yup. If you had Trump’s ear for a few minutes, he is incredibly easy to manipulate.
Yup, upcoming summit with Zelenskyy and the EU, and his tone will change after that.
No, Trumps team will insist on going forward with the deal they arranged with Vlad. Europe (which includes Ukraine) will say fuck that, and team Trump will then use it as political ammo to justifiy more tarriffs and more energy into the Asia pivot. IE they will say they’re pulling out and leaving Russia to have its fun.
When trump met with Zelenskyy in the Vatican he changed his tune real quick. I guess we will see how it goes.
He who drinks with the enemy while his ally bleeds is no hero but a fool. You grant him honor while he seeks to burn your and your ally’s home. No word of peace holds meaning while his sword is still raised against those who stand with you.
Install troops in Ukraine and show Putin already god damn it. That makes putin mad? Good that will make EU more unified. And its not like putin is gonna drop nuclear bombs cause thats suicide :) So bring him to his knees.
To be fair, appeasement worked quite well in the 1930s…
Every day, guillotines become more attractive.
This’ll be the second time they’ve taken territory from Ukraine and gotten away with it. They’ll probably take Belarus once that dictator dies, and they’ll eventually take Moldova since they already control part of it. They’ll keep trying to take all of Ukraine until it happens.
Belarus is already taken. Fully.
It benefits Russia to keep Belarus as a phoney, pretend sovereign state because its another vote and voice in international matters, it lends legitimacy to their arguments when they’re at a stage like the UN and fighting with whomever, to have a bunch of warlord states voting alongside them.
And don’t forget Georgia.
Ofc he does. Surprised he can even talk while gargling so much Russian balls…
Okay, well, the last time I made this joke it came true, so I’m going to throw some salt over my shoulder after I say it, but how about instead of that, we just give Russia about 20,000 square miles of Alaska. We can start with the entirety of the Aleutian Island chain (about 6,800 sq. miles), and then work out some chunk of the mainland for the rest. That seems reasonable.
And if that does come true, then by God I’m going to go out and buy a lottery ticket.
I mean, that does makes perfect sense, if we are suddenly thinking of giving Russia back parts it’s given to others in the past…
If that comes true, I’ll also buy a lottery ticket, for the first time in my life, after 32 years of never gambling (despite having lived in Nevada for 30 years).
