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Water is a chemical and crop dusters do actually dump other substances from aircraft. So, in a way, chemtrails are real. Just not in the way the conspiracy dumbasses think.
Those 8 states are a big contributor to the current shitshow
That reminds me of my favorite rock that prevents tiger attacks. I’ve had it with me for years and it works perfectly. Yet, whenever I bring it up, people make fun of me.
I remember that scene from an episode, too. Just not which episode it is. Pre season 10 I think?
Probably because you’re making references to a ~30 year old episode of a cartoon, as if it’s your own joke.
Oh, I forgot that every joke in the universe is supposed to be used just once.
STOP VOTING FOR IDIOTS
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Not voting is the reason you guys are in that mess down there.
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No i agree with that first sentence don’t get me wrong, but like the choice was Trump or not Trump… And a lot of people did nothing and let it happen
Also, are you saying not voting is how you get a life without rulers?
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My bad I thought I was conversing with a sane person, but this all reads like a bunch of brain dead ramblings of a sov-cit type person and I’m sorry but I just don’t have the time to wade through all of that.
Didn’t even answer my question
Yeah, that’s a lot of dumb ideas. Not paying taxes puts me in prison… all the rest of that goes out the fucking window after that. Your plan sucks.
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Let me get this straight. They are going to outlaw… water condensation. They are literally the grandpa from The Simpsons yelling at the clouds. Because chemtrails are basically just clouds. It’s just water vapor from the airplane engines condensing in cold atmosphere at high altitudes. Because it’s cold up there. They know it’s cold up there, right? Right? Imagine being a grown fucking adult and not knowing how this shit works. Go out in the winter and breathe with open mouth. You’re now breathing out chemtrails. you fucking dumbasses.
Ban dihydrogen monoxide!
Scientists have shown that those who come in contact with dihydrogen monoxide have a 100% fatality rate. Every single person that has come in contact with it dies.
It’s in all the food you eat! Big Food lobbies to protect their profits by using it in food production!
The real tragedy is the pollution. While there are areas of the world that are generally safe from dihydrogen monoxide in the environment, in my area there are literally rivers of the stuff with regular exposure to the air we breath.
It’s also extremely prevalent in areas of high humidity, further compounding sweaty asscrack syndrome.
Swamp-ass is real - raise awareness!
No no, you see, chemtrails look and behave exactly like contrails. They’re entirely, completely, 100% indistinguishable from contrails. So now that theyve banned them, you can be sure that all those trails you see in the sky are pure contrails and you’ve got your local Republican politician to thank for it!
Its definitely not just that they want an easy win without actually having to do anything, do not look at the man behind the curtain!
Well if you can see condensed water vapor in open air, it’s most likely nucleating around something. And that something is probably the combustion products from the jet fuel. I don’t know exactly what each of those thousands of molecular structures are, but burning fuels in general can produce a whole host of compounds including Polyaromatic Hydrocarbons (PAHs) that can be rather carcinogenic. And that pollution most likely settles somewhere on the planet surface eventually.
As takeda said in another comment, it might not be worse than more local sources like cars or trains or power plants, but it’s very unlikely to just be water, and probably not healthy.
I’m not saying it’s a deliberate spread of chemicals and it’s certainly not the mind control nonsense that conspiracy lunatics think. No, most combustion products are just waste with no real use. But calling it “just water” or “harmless clouds” can’t be entirely right unless you believe carbon atoms can just disappear.
The logic behind chemtrails is that evil governments or the rich Illuminati elite are intentionally spraying specific chemicals to control population. If argument was ecological impact of burning fuel, then we’d have to ban airplanes, not chemtrails. But that’s not the argument.
Also it’s not water droplets or vapor, it’s most likely crystalized water vapor or droplets. Commercial airplanes fly at around 10km above ground and temperatures can get very low, we’re talking -40°C. It’s literally those videos where someone throws a pot of hot water up in the air outside during cold winter. It instantly turns into a white mist. Hot jet engines, cold atmosphere, burned fuel and vapor during combustion, would you look at that… CHEMTRAILS!
Not to mention weight is incredible luxury metric on airplanes. If conspiracy people think commercial airlines would carry half the fuel on board and replace other half with chemicals for chemtrails, because reasons, yeah, they don’t do that. They actually rather not even fill the fuel tanks all the way if it’s not necessary for the flight and rather do it when airplane touches at the destination and they refuel it there. Because carrying additional weight consumes more fuel, even if that weight is the fuel itself.
Yep, I understand all that and agree with you. The chemtrail conspiracy people are unhinged.
I’m just criticizing the statement that fossil-fuel vehicles are only emitting water, when we know for a fact that the combustion products are pollutants.
Well, I never said it’s JUST water. I just said water is the main component that freezes and forms crystals that appear as smoke/clouds in the sky from airplanes because water tends to freeze pretty quickly at -40°C.
I was responding to this part.
Because chemtrails are basically just clouds. It’s just water vapor from the airplane engines condensing in cold atmosphere at high altitudes. […] Go out in the winter and breathe with open mouth. You’re now breathing out chemtrails.
I agree with your reaction to the chemtrail conspiracy crowd who are clueless on science, but this is too oversimplified IMO.
I mean, I was just describing the part that most likely creates “chemtrails”. We weren’t exactly talking exact exhaust composition of airplane engine, just the part that is the cause of “chemtrails” which is most likely just water. Of course there is some uncombusted jet fuel, CO2, water, probably some CO and other substances that are formed during combustion and sent out the exhaust of the engine. But most of those probably don’t affect formation of “chemtrails”.
Also all the CO2, clearly we should be banning these flying machines from spreading mass quantities of weather changing chemicals in our atmosphere.
We don’t have a good alternative to planes so it’s probably better to require the industry to offset its pollution. Not than anyone wants flights to be more expensive. But as usual the ultra-wealthy take the most flights yet don’t pay as much as they should.
I dont think this is true. My understanding is that its excess jet fuel being jettisoned before landing to reduce weight. Not that thats any better, but its for saftey.
My understanding…
You’ve misunderstood.
Only for emergency landings. Airplanes are only fueled for a planned flight plus some reserve for economic reasons (carrying excess fuel means you consume more fuel and that costs airlines money). If you’re making a regular planned approach you’ve already used most of planned fuel and airplane is ready to land as is. For emergency landings soon after takeoff, landing at that time would mean airplane is too heavy and would probably destroy landing gear and damage fuselage/wings on touchdown and you don’t want that when you already have other problems. Only then they dump the excess fuel to get to the right landing load (weight). Source: I watch a lot of air crash investigations on TV.
… this article is kinda shit.
Says 8 states but doesn’t tell you which ones, just that Tennessee and Florida are 2 of them.
Says 8, tells us 2.
WHO ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO POINT AT AND LAUGH???
It probably isn’t hard to extrapolate what the other 6 states are if you know that Tennessee and Florida are 2 of the 8.
We live in a post-reality political climate.
Conservatism was never a part of reality. The Dems just decided to join them in lala-land, and apparently the voters too…
Conservatism is just reactionary post modernism, nothing is real but their personal visceral reaction to some event, and historical events themselves are given innate mystical properties such as things “existing in a vacuum”, and the lovely “its just natural” analysis. Democrats are just really good slow walking reformists owned by capital interest.
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Yes, every terrorist in the history of mankind consumed DHMO! Ban this stuff immediately! /s
I heard that they found DHMO in hurricane Milton!
Prohibit dispersion of chemicals or substances into the atmosphere to alter weather… hmmmm… you mean like carbon dioxide? Maybe this lawmaker will inadvertently help fight climate change?
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So what you’re saying is, the law’s already working?
If it wasn’t so sad it’d be hilarious that all these states are banning imaginary ways to control the weather while at the same time gutting the EPA and air population controls, so real ways to influence the weather.
Without even looking, lemme guess on which states.
Are they the shit holes with low education rates and high rates of rampant stupidity who suckle the teat of all the blue states paying for them but then complain about it?
Likely Oklahoma too - current GOP platform wants to outlaw 5G.
They mentioned shitholes full of idiots.
One of the states is Florida, which is ranked #1 in the U.S. for higher education.
Louisiana and Tennessee I expect it from… But Desantis has done a number on Florida.
Who is ranking Florida #1 for higher education? Even before DeSantis, I only heard of Florida schools being part schools.
A lot of it is tied to “nice” weather and lower tuition costs. But the University of Central Florida is one of, if not the largest University in the U.S. and focused on engineering and computer science. Embry Riddle is the largest Aerospace/Aeronautical school in the world I believe. Florida State University and the University of Florida are likely where the party school stigma stems from, but there are 77 accredited Universities in Florida.
The tuition I’m sure effects it a lot:
Also states with very shallow gene pool…
shallow gene pool.
Next thing: “out law hurricanes” …good luck with all that
Stop fucking flying so much then. You could always put those planes on the ground, on tracks. Imagine that.
Wait, I thought it was the government that was putting the chemicals in the trails in the first place, and now their making their own actions illegal?
Well, that’s the federal government and these are state governments. Of course not THIS federal government, they mean the other federal government, the shadow government. You know the one that disobeys laws, kills millions of people for financial gain, covers up the pedofilia and drug problems of their membership, ignores the Constitution, and is trying to change the world for their own benefit? Well not that one, the other one that tries to keeps everything functioning, root out corruption, and write rules to try and protect people. THAT shadow government. It’s evil dontchaknow and these new laws will definitely show them that the states won’t stand for it any more!
