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Like many of its experimental products, Tesla’s Solar Roof — a solar panel array engineered to look like discreet roof tiles — has been a stunning failure. Nowhere is that flop more apparent than on the roof of Ambrose Conroy, a California homeowner who’s spent over six years battling with Tesla over the solar installation from hell.
According to Electrek, the whole saga began back in 2020, when Conroy entered an agreement to buy a 13.1 kW photovoltaic system from Tesla. Though the process was supposed to take a few weeks, it ran years late, as compounding errors and logistical disasters threw the project into chaos.
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Besides being a neo-Nazi shitbag, Leon Hitler is a fraudster too. Drag his ass into a courtroom and make him return the taxpayer he abused with a prison sentence, strip him of US citizenship and boot his ass out.
“blasts.”
How about “charges with fraud, orders Tesla to replace any inoperative panels sold with working models and have them installed for the customer free of charge, refunds the customer the original cost charged for said panels, and pays the customer interest on calculated electric service KWh savings lost while panels were inoperative/not installed by Tesla.”
BLASTS
Solar energy is supposed to be a long-term investment, not a disappointment. Trust and quality should always come first. What do you think Tesla should do to regain people’s confidence?
Get rid of their neo-nazi ceo for starters.
Then undo all the stupid damage he did. Like make the supervised driving system open so it can be audited by authorities and get the level 3-4 status. Upgrade the system to incorporate lidar. Remove all the meme-features like “Mad Max”, which basically make your a criminal when you use them. Remove the tesla-only requirement for all their charging stations.
You know, turn into an actual decent company.
“NAZI Sells Snake Oil”, film at 11.
I still think Tesla Solar Roof is pretty cool. I’m surprised there are no other competitors, knowing how whatever Elon touches becomes garbage
Just guessing:
The combination of sturdy roof tiles and mostly fragile photovoltaic components is not that easy and mostly too expensive.
The roof tiles have to compete on the price with cheap normal roof tiles and mounted photovoltaic panels on top.
The tiles need a reliable solution for wiring.
And even installing them might be more expensive than the other two combined.
Maybe when you use panels instead of shingles it is better.
One of the issues was it was supposed to be easy to install in the sense that they all should have just snapped together, but that didnt turn out to be the case, which caused install times to be much longer which raised costs substantially as well.
The Tesla tiles never existed. The ones presented by Musk were made at an LA prop factory. It’s just fraud.
There were real roofs.
There are competitors, at least here in Europe. Registered in 2015 so before Tesla even announced theirs.
I remember this being the only product of theirs that ever appealed to me.
I wish someone would hurry up and make a red roof tile version. I don’t care if it’s half as efficient.
Never forget what this man is.
He’s a criminal.
That’s offensive to criminals and inadequate to Elon. There are plenty of decent folks behind bars. Even the bad ones usually only hurt a small number of people, they didn’t threaten the whole country and its future and tear apart its systems of government. Muskrat is way, way worse than the vast majority of them.
fraud is a crime, being a nazi might not be.
I’m sure they are truly “blasted.” Call me when they get fined enough to reverse all profits from the fraud.
Call me crazy but the headline “Tesla found liable for fraud by judge in court” is both more accurate and better bait than the exhausted bLaStEdDdDD!1 clickbait bullshit.
Binturong BLASTS Futurism for clickbait bullshit headline
lol perfect
A judge blasts?
Yes, under the bench. It’s not fun for whoever has to clean it up. It’s a kink thing to do it in front of a jury.
Dredd: “Spearmint Lifesavers”.
Lawgiver: “Spearmint Lifesavers are Unavailable, Judge Dredd. Would you like Guava Lifesavers instead?”
Dredd: “Spearmint. Lifesavers”.
Lawgiver: “Spearmint Lifesavers are Unavailable, Judge Dredd. Would you like some Durian Lifesavers instead?”
Dredd: "Spearmint!
Lifesavers!"
Lawgiver: “Spearmint Lifesavers are Unavailable, Judge Dredd … ACK! N-no! Don’t put me up there!”
Judge Death: “All crime is committed by the living. Therefore, life itself is a crime! I have come to jud- URK!”
Lawgiver: (muffled) “Hey! It smells like death in here!”
Already keyword blocked “slams” here so I guess “blasts” is next.
Judge used Blast!
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It’s not very effective…
Tesla, Fraudulent for Selling Junk.
It’s amazing the cars came out as good as they did. Imagine where we would be with competent people?
The car company pre-dates Elon’s Ketamine. Same applies to Space-X.
Cybertruck? ElonK
Kick flipping roadster? ElonK
Starship to Mars? ElonKElonK is what they call a Pigeon CEO. He shows up, shits everywhere, then flies off again until the next time.
We call those Seagull managers
The seagull manager also screams a lot, and the pigeon manager flips the board.
Lol. That one is new to me. I’ll have to remember it.
Better way of phrasing it: Flies in, shits all over everything, struts around like he’s the best and then flies out.
Ah the old swoop and poop. Been hit by that too many times
The Mars thing started way before the Ketamine
He just used to hide the ketamine better
Cars are a product of before felon, they had thebdesign and process down. After him are the failure products, cybercuck, power wall, solar etc… Even star link has been a cluster fuck.
Let’s not forget Hyperloop.
thats was a pure scam through and through, to stop california from enacting the HSR, it was long enough to allow trumps 1st term to block any funding.
He had been pushing the Hyperpoop since 2007. I remember because it was the first time I ever heard of him. I was like what the hell is this, this sounds so shitty compared to HSR, obviously no one would be stupid enough to get into this…
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No, nooooonono… absolutely let’s forget
Starlink works well, what do you mean?
They were contractually obligated to have 40,000 sats 5+ years ago and now the sats are decaying faster than they can launch new ones, so they will probably never be “done.” Starlink is a massive failure by their own metrics.
Doesn’t work well in Ukraine.
The power wall as far as I’m aware is the only thing post Elon that worked out well tho.
From what I understand their home batteries are well regarded too.
I had solar installed on my house this year, Tesla was never in the running because I don’t buy Nazi shit but doing my research there was a lot of positive things said about it.
I went sigenergy instead and it has been amazing.
I read a long time ago the Powerwall was made as an afterthought for what to do with old batteries from dead or salvaged teslas. They would strip the packs, test the individual cells and those that pass went into powerwalls.
Honestly I have no problem with that, in fact I wish it was more common, seems a good way to get extra life out of a big battery.
It’s not the worst idea, but a better one would be to repair the battery pack and put the car back on the road, unless the car itself is damaged in some other way. EV battery replacements tend to cost more than half of the car’s MSRP and it’s a bit of a problem for the longevity for older EVs. Newer ones supposedly have longer lasting batteries, but since they’re newer, we don’t know for sure yet.
Even older ones have longer lasting batteries than we expected, it turns out.
But the reason this makes sense is because it’s not easy to “repair” a battery back to 100% and that’s what you would want in your car, but that massive battery pack at 80% SoC works pretty well for a house battery.
40kWh is like the minimum you’d want in a fully electric car but a typical household only needs like 1/3 of that.
It’s a very good idea.
The cars that were still rooted in the original founders were good. He was shedding quality as soon as he got the reputation up enough to get sales and turn profit.
remember tesla/elon dint want lidar, he wanted cameras only because it was “cheaper”
Model S is still unbeatable. I will continue to drive it till wheels fall off. Good leather, carbon, the alcatara but not matterial i really like, sound is AMAZING, speed and range obviously (105kW pack and 3.5s 0 to 60 is basically as good as I’ll ever need). The autopilot is still amazing by comparison, but you know what it also does that literally no other car does well? Fucking ADAS, i have never turned off lane keep assist off, because it works and isn’t obnoxious as every other car I’ve test driven made in the past 6 years.
It’s such a joke, car manufacturers try to make it “as easy to turn off” as they can legally get away with it… how about you make it fucking work?
I love EVs, genuinely spend my time looking up reviews, going for test drives and i going to EV in person shows. I have drove +20 EVs and owned several. There’s nothing else out there and it sucks. Tesla stopped inventing several years ago and it sucks because everyone else is 10 years behind and they still haven’t caught up to where tesla was in 2018.
As a car guy, gotta disagree. Teslas are pretty disappointing from a driver’s perspective. Teslas were good before the legacy automakers figured out electric cars, but now I’d rather have a Hyundai lol
Model S is/was priced as a Mercedes EQS but has a shorter range by 70km. For that price you can get two Opel Grandland Electric
My version was 110k when it came out. Sure, it’s not on luxury level of 110k but I’m 2nd owner.
Modern day EV mercs are just… weird. They’re also worse interior than their ice counter parts + entire dash being a screen is awful.
I do like what range rover is doing, range rover sport could be my next car when they come down in price a bit and get rid of that piano black.
Look to Hyundai or some of the Chinese makes. Hyundai with the N models is only make that is actually making anything different from other EVs
While I agree… not my cup of tea. I hope they do have a niche but does feel gimmicky.
I get that. I own a i20n so you can imagine how I feel when stepping into a i5n. I feel the Tesla is gimmicky with fart sounds, not well put together and generally an iPad on wheels. Also just getting tired of seeing yet another white Tesla on the road. But lots of people love their Tesla. You so Indeed get good value for your money.
The tesla screen predates ipad.
Also there’s a big difference between a toy box taking up 1 app and within it being fart mode than entire steering wheel, gimmicky gearing and sounds… like how is that even a comparison?
Elon is the most successful sleazy car salesman.
Can Musk get the Elizabeth Holmes treatment now?
Watching the dropout and Nathan fielders you can see everything, the biggest confusion I had was that I fundamentally don’t understand what she did differently to Elon and why he’s not also in jail
You mean a couple award winning documentaries or the decade plus of jail time?
Personally, I’m leaning towards the latter
The latter, plus the zeroing out of networth.
Oh a couple of award winning documentaries about his downfall wouldn’t hurt either.
But they have to be humiliating, and he has to watch them from prison.
I’d take both frankly.
No because Musk hasnt fucked over the royal caste yet
Weird, I had the Tesla Solar Roof installed in… 2019? 2020? and it worked great the 5 years I lived in that house.
You can get a bad product sometimes in a batch of good ones, but you don’t accidentally get working solar from a batch of black glass.
I’m in no way defending or commenting on Elon, but to call the product “junk that doesn’t work” is overstating things.
Or Tesla knew the product they were sending her was defective and sent it anyway?
Knowing “a product” is defective doesn’t mean “every product”.
Read the article and then read the source article from Elektrek. Tesla already admitted liability for breach of contract, warranty and negligence for a $82k contract with a deadline of a few weeks that was dragged over two years and lead to $2.5 million in damages. This isn’t some product like a phone that was defective, this is way worse.
They were so good hardly anyone wanted them and now Tesla has discontinued another one of Musk’s genius scams, I mean ideas… That’s great you are happy but mamy other users reported their roofs were constantly underproducing electricity, and in some cases their roof underlayment even melted. Good luck with your discontinued system.
