• squeezy@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    The UK’S emissions are a drop in the ocean compared to various other nations, our marginal contribution is minuscule

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      1 hour ago

      Sure, but that’s a complete cop out.

      Let’s say every nation produced exactly the same amount of emissions. There are about 200 nations in the world, so the best any nation could hope to do by itself is reduce worldwide emissions by about half a percent. If every nation took the same view, no reductions would ever get made.

      As its stands, the UK produces about 0.81 percent of emissions, so they’re still polluting more than their fair share.

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    9 hours ago

    That’s because if they publish it, they will have to explain why they’re not doing enough about it.

    • Fat majority in parliament
    • Mandate for change
    • Predecessor hated for being “more of the same”
    • “Burnham Bounce”
    • Just had a summer of extreme weather.
    • 80% of UK population want more/faster action on climate.

    If no help is coming from the government now, I doubt it’s going to happen any time soon.

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    11 hours ago

    Modern civilization’s greatest failure, earth’s climate. Not a failure of science, but of control structures, failures of governments to act on humankind’s behalf.

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    14 hours ago

    I feel like every story I hear out of the UK lately is some weird combination of stupid and vaguely dystopian.

    Are things ok over there?

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      No. They’re a mess. Brexit was a mess. Their politics are a mess. The royal family is a mess. Their culture is a mess. Their economy is a mess. Their climate is a mess. They’re not ok, but there’s not really anything we can do for them, so… I guess they’re on their own, like the rest of us. They’ll have to figure their shit out, pronto, or fall into chaos, which seems more likely what everyone is going to end up doing around the world. I wish them luck. They’ll need it. We’ll all need it.

      • Danquebec@sh.itjust.works
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        2 hours ago

        What do you mean their culture is a mess? Frankenstein? Tolkien? The Beatles? Heavy blues? Heavy metal? Hard rock? Punk?

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      4 hours ago

      I don’t feel like any progress has been made in the past 25 years. Progress in some areas is offset by complete fuck ups in other areas

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      12 hours ago

      Bruh… Orwell literally wrote about how authoritarian the British government was in the 50s. Of course 1984 was highly exaggerated at that point, but the point still stands.

      No, the world’s former premier colonizer is not okay. All that shit they did is turning inwards, just like in US. Not saying the common person deserves is, unlike weird tankies fetishizing suffering of the west as some kind of karmaic justice. The Global South is still suffering too. No one is having a good time.

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    14 hours ago

    I mean fuck the British government, but how much more explosive-then-ignored can those reports get. Extremely depressing to see the already way too permissive 1.5%-target get pushed up to 2.8% or whatever.

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    13 hours ago

    The UK cannot escape from reality. The effects of climate change from drought to intense rain will be evident.

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      13 hours ago

      Yeah… Europe will soon find out how great they had things at such a high latitude.

      Aka what being on the edge of the Arctic Circle feels like without AMOC.

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      13 hours ago

      He’s not. He’s the one locking the doors when there actually is a fire.

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        Sorry. There are two possible meanings for the idiom “don’t yell fire in a crowded theatre”:

        The benevolent is to avoid a crowd’s panic. The selfish is to make your exit first, before the crowd’s panic.

        I’m not close enough to British politics to say one way or another. But the idiom fits either way.

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          The idiom “don’t yell fire in a crowded theory” only applies when there is no fire.

          It’s usually brought up in free speech arguments, and the question is if triggering a panic which could kill people by causing them to be trampled underfoot (from back in the day when people actually responded appropriately to the risk of fire which we have since lost in the days of fire codes and controls) in the absence of an actual fire is a free speech right.

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            12 hours ago

            Traditionally yes. It has taken on new meaning over time. I’ve had many conversations with all sorts of people high and low where the double-entendre is clear if not explicit.

            Edit: I should add that its within the context of corporate, civil and military disaster management planning. The public remains largely unaware, ignorant while many insiders throughout various institutions know how bad and how quickly things can get. Those who know often want to make their moves, before the public catches on, therefore like to muddy the message.

            Classic example are investors talking their book. By the time you read about an opportunity in the G&M, FT etc, the insiders have already made the trades and the public is now their exit strategy.

            In the UK, in the context of climate change, look up LifeBoat Ethics. You’ll see where this new usage of an old idiom is going.

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              I’m still absorbing literally to mean figuratively and continue to use adverbial forms. Jonathan Swift wrote a story about me.

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                  9 hours ago

                  That, too, but I was thinking of a story about a country where people live a thousand years and nobody can understand the seniors because their language is aniquated and they can’t understand younger generations.

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      13 hours ago

      More like he doesn’t want to vindicate the people who’ve been screaming their lungs out for the last decades, while being victimized and brutalized.

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    Maybe they’re worried how extreme emigration would get if people knew what the UK was going to look like? Think of the flood of capital out.

    Edit: to make it clear: emigration is when people leave a country.