• velma@sh.itjust.works
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    15 days ago

    Then you should be able to deduce that Americans listening to someone educated on these topics isn’t proof that being smart is not acceptable in America.

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      15 days ago

      It’s more of a broad truism than an attack on Piker per se. The fact is, we have a culture that rewards stupidity.

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        15 days ago

        I agree generally with you, this just isn’t relevant to this particular conversation.

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          15 days ago

          I mean, for a smart guy - Hasan has said some really stupid shit in the past. That’s what gets views though.

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              15 days ago

              Nothing as stupid what he’s said about 9/11. That’s a pretty low bar though.

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                The only reason what Hasan said about 9/11 could be considered stupid is because it doesn’t paint the full picture. Much like the term ‘defund the police’ doesn’t mean ‘completely eradicate police departments across the U.S.’, saying ‘America deserved 9/11’ does not mean ‘all the innocent (powerless) people killed in the attack or as a result of the attack deserved it’.

                You can accuse him of being tactless, because he is - for someone with a degree in polysci and communications you’d think he’d conjure up a better way to phrase it. Thing is, he’s not wrong.

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                  15 days ago

                  Much like the term ‘defund the police’ doesn’t mean ‘completely eradicate police departments across the U.S.’,

                  I have a problem with this kind of double speak - and the average apolitical person won’t give a shit about the intended meaning either. Especially since we absolutely should be talking about how to safely eradicate police departments. We live in a police state that the founding fathers, for all their faults, would absolutely not consider a free society. Police departments as an institution is an aberration in human history. They have not always existed in society, nor will they always exist.

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                    15 days ago

                    See I disagree, what we should be doing is reforming the police - funding alternative means of intervention with the purpose of reducing the amount of violent crime through the means of de-escalatory strategies.

                    The founding fathers were slavers. Police in large part were started as a result of Southern states creating units to police slaves, or rather escaped slaves and the rare black person that gained freedom “legitimately”. They’d have no problem with the idea of police as they are.

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                14 days ago

                It’s people like you that convince me you deserve a million 9/11s for what you do to us, Mexico, with the Iron River. You kill 30,000+ of us every year, that’s 200+ 9/11s in just Mexico. Those 200,000+ yearly firearms you sell to the cartels also pour down to South America. You do the same to the Middle East and Africa.

                Hasan was mad at the government for doing shit like that, which caused 9/11. And here you are, sucking Jeffrey Epstein Class cock. You are a traitor and a piece of garbage for that. American Exceptionalist piece of shit.

                You will never find someone perfect. You are just like religious people, waiting for a “perfect figure” to take lead because you are a coward. You don’t have what it takes. You are like a toxic DPS in a videogame, expecting the most perfect Tank to cover all the damage just so you can steal the credit at the end. If they fail, you blame the entire team but yourself. That’s what you are, and to be honest, you are worthless. People like you have no weight in society anymore.

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                  It’s people like you that convince me you deserve a million 9/11s for what you do to us, Mexico. People like you have no weight in society anymore.

                  Vette cabron. Es claro porque no le gusta a nadie.

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            15 days ago

            It’s also just like, gonna come with the territory of streaming. Streaming is being live for hours on end on a regular basis, I’d have my foot in my mouth all the time if I were doing that. Hell I say stupid shit plenty without that