I hate bigots. On Lemmy every day it is commonly expressed that millions of people are trash because of where they were born. Hundreds of users cannot wait to tell you how evil ALL Americans are. And somehow this form of “I despise vast numbers of people for being born somewhere” is supposedly not bigotry (it very obviously is). I will never believe that these users want what’s best for us. They want us to suffer. That is why they cannot wait to tell us how much they hate our guts for being born a place.
Oh shit. I just looked out and saw the “bigotry against americans is the only valid position” billboard. My bad. Thanks for the absolutely bad faith fake ass question tho.
You are living in an evil empire that’s building concentration camps and shooting civilians, starting wars and funding genocide, yet you expect the rest of the world to treat you like you aren’t a citizen of said evil empire?
We expect people who are supposed to be progressives to understand that no one chooses the circumstances of their birth dipshit. I’ve been speaking out against America since I was a teenager, and have no means to escape. Yet in your eyes I am no different than some conservative dipshit who helped drag all of America into this.
Its literal fascist thinking, you are equating a human being to their nationality. I see it on Lemmy all the time, usually from idiots whose own countries have their own histories of vile and evil shit. Its stupid, pathetic, and not at all congruent with progressive thinking.
The idea that anyone should treat someone poorly because they live in a place is called bigotry. Any words you want to say to excuse that are just bullshit
Treat you? We’re not having you over for dinner, buddy. This is a comment section. Get over yourself.
We’re sick of hearing you bitch about Trump while doing nothing about it. It’s been ten years, either do something or shut up. We have no sympathy left for you.
Yup, and ironically a very fascist view of nationality from those who like to think they are progressive. It’s even funnier that most of them are European and their countries histories are also full of atrocities.
Fuck countries, let alone utilizing that construct to justify hating large numbers of people. I despise what Russia has been doing and that there is a lot of support for it there. And yet if I catch myself saying “the Russians” I have to check myself because I usually mean the Russian government. I damn sure will never use it to say “I hate all their citizens”. And I would hate it if that’s how someone took it.
I love it when the person who blocks everyone that points out how wrong they are, gets defensive and complains that people aren’t commenting on their sad trolling attempts.
It’s a reference to the theory that all facets of reactionary politics revolve around either “Team Sports” or “Cuck Porn”, and, under closer scrutiny, mostly cuck porn. I’ve only recently stumbled upon this, but i think it makes a lot of sense.
Uh oh we got another anti-anti-bigot who thinks stating facts is wrong because it hurts their feelings.
Yes, a lot of Americans are evil. They simply don’t care about human beings. That hate people because they are gay, trans, progressive, or whatever Fox tells them to
Millions of people are not trash when they are born. They become trash when they are indoctrinated into our fucked up culture of rape, war, and continuous violence
I want them to change, suffering doesn’t accomplish anything.
Lemmy is a problem but only because it reflects society. It IS a problem that every 10th comment on here is relishing Americans suffering or calling us all evil.
Your “wah your feeling don’t matter” comment is a distraction and is based in conservative thinking. We deserve a world where the left wing values of empathy and inclusion are actually practiced instead of used as an excuse for bigotry and hatred. It is not left wing to wish death or suffering on anyone you see as politically different to yourself.
The irony of you calling me out for ignoring nuance… lol
Literally the only thing I’m commenting on is people’s fucked up extreme lack of nuance when thinking about Americans as they relate to their country’s politics and leaders.
Lemmy does not reflect society as a whole at all really. We have no real right wing unless you count
.ml which they would very much disagree with.
I never said your feelings don’t matter, but that you are hurt by the truth. I think this is objectively true based on your statements. Please know condeming America really isn’t condeming the humans that live there that disagree about what is going on.
Empathy for this downtrodden is natural, not so much for the oppressors. Are you suggesting we should have empathy for bigots and racists. If so should we give them equal empathy to someone they abuse and murder. I think you should examine your feelings carefully here because it seems like you are suggesting some kind of bizarre equality in empathy.
A lot of the left wing is nonviolent, but not all. Consider the US has actively expelled and murdered left leaning people and currently condems them as enemies is our reality. You say you want to give people empathy, but it appears the left doesn’t get it from you. I suppose this answers the earlier question and brings a spotlight on your motivations.
I am afraid the only irony here is you claiming that everyone here hates Americans as opposed to what they do. This juxtapose of the situation is the disingenuousness I am speaking of. There is an easy solution to your problem. You can just ask why. As in why do you think Americans are evil. I bet the answers you get will surprise and challenge you. This is far more productive than your accusational nature and hurt feelings you display.
I am afraid you really don’t know what your commenting on because you have failed to reflect why you feel the way you do and admit that what America has done and continues to do is not only wrong, but is evil in nature.
Lemmy does not reflect society as a whole at all really.
Yeah, no shit. I assumed you would understand my words as:
Lemmy is a problem but only because it reflects society [in its inability to process nuance SINCE THAT IS WHAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED].
You took my words 100% literally which is weird and only makes sense if you’re making a concerted effort to dodge the point.
I never said your feelings don’t matter, but that you are hurt by the truth.
Which is clearly just a way to ignore the point and make it about me personally even though I never said anything about my feelings. This is a common maneuver used by the right wing.
Please know condeming America really isn’t condeming the humans that live there
You again strive to ignore the point. I’m not talking about cases where it isn’t condemning the people. I’m talking about claims that we’re all Nazis and that we deserve bad things, and that we’re all responsible for Donald Trump. All these statements are very clearly condemning us as people in general.
Are you suggesting we should have empathy for bigots and racists.
…You know you’re making shit up; just letting you know that I know that you know it.
You say you want to give people empathy, but it appears the left doesn’t get it from you
You’re either a troll, intoxicated, or a huge idiot. Empathy in this case, very extremely obviously, meant to have empathy for Americans who oppose our Nazi government/populace. This could not have been clearer. I sure feel sorry for the teachers you had in school.
This was simple. Americans aren’t all evil, many people here say they are. Directly and indirectly. All the time. In this thread. And you know this. You seem to want to imply the same but not outright say it yourself because you’re now aware that I’d call you a bigot for it, which you are. I won’t be responding to anymore of these cancerous bad faith takes. I hope you have the day you deserve.
It is clear your not coming from any sort of understanding and instead you are acting obtuse. I suppose I overestimated you considering you have someone who is willing to explain to you what is really going on. You don’t really care though, this much is obvious.
You deny your feelings are hurt by the truth which is silly since you are here conveying your hurt feelings. Your lack of candor here is pretty silly.
I am not making anything up. You are saying that there is no reason to consider the US evil. This is patently false. You try to take it to the extreme that people here are out for blood to try and prove your reductive point.
You have not asked them why they feel this way. You remind me of when a progressive confronts a conservative asking why a trans person is bad and the conservative is unable to articulate why. In contrast, people here will be happy to articulate why.
Let make it clear for you again. There are serious reasons people are saying these things. The fact that you choose to be ignorant and pretend otherwise is the problem not Lemmy. You are the problem and coming here to call people who rightfully say America is evil are bigots is just another disgusting lie you choose to perpetrate.
I hate bigots. On Lemmy every day it is commonly expressed that millions of people are trash because of where they were born. Hundreds of users cannot wait to tell you how evil ALL Americans are. And somehow this form of “I despise vast numbers of people for being born somewhere” is supposedly not bigotry (it very obviously is). I will never believe that these users want what’s best for us. They want us to suffer. That is why they cannot wait to tell us how much they hate our guts for being born a place.
wtf does this have to do with solar panels on the White House?
Did you see this thread? Because a lot of it and a lot of American politics threads are “fuck Americans they’re all stupid and evil!”
I mean, yeah?
Have you looked out the window recently?
Oh shit. I just looked out and saw the “bigotry against americans is the only valid position” billboard. My bad. Thanks for the absolutely bad faith fake ass question tho.
You are living in an evil empire that’s building concentration camps and shooting civilians, starting wars and funding genocide, yet you expect the rest of the world to treat you like you aren’t a citizen of said evil empire?
We expect people who are supposed to be progressives to understand that no one chooses the circumstances of their birth dipshit. I’ve been speaking out against America since I was a teenager, and have no means to escape. Yet in your eyes I am no different than some conservative dipshit who helped drag all of America into this.
Its literal fascist thinking, you are equating a human being to their nationality. I see it on Lemmy all the time, usually from idiots whose own countries have their own histories of vile and evil shit. Its stupid, pathetic, and not at all congruent with progressive thinking.
Right, we’re the real fascists for pointing out how fascist America is. Whatever.
Turns out when you’re a dehumanizing bigot, some people notice occasionally.
The idea that anyone should treat someone poorly because they live in a place is called bigotry. Any words you want to say to excuse that are just bullshit
Life must be so hard for you :(
Treat you? We’re not having you over for dinner, buddy. This is a comment section. Get over yourself.
We’re sick of hearing you bitch about Trump while doing nothing about it. It’s been ten years, either do something or shut up. We have no sympathy left for you.
Keep the hate flowing, particularly toward Trump opponents which you know this platform is almost entirely comprised of. Blocked for bigotry.
Didn’t you spend all of 2024 demanding that no one breathe an unkind word about genocide?
Let someone else wring their hands about evil.
Yup, and ironically a very fascist view of nationality from those who like to think they are progressive. It’s even funnier that most of them are European and their countries histories are also full of atrocities.
Exactly, exactly, and exactly.
Fuck countries, let alone utilizing that construct to justify hating large numbers of people. I despise what Russia has been doing and that there is a lot of support for it there. And yet if I catch myself saying “the Russians” I have to check myself because I usually mean the Russian government. I damn sure will never use it to say “I hate all their citizens”. And I would hate it if that’s how someone took it.
Edit: comment instead of downvote, cowards.
I love it when the person who blocks everyone that points out how wrong they are, gets defensive and complains that people aren’t commenting on their sad trolling attempts.
Delicate Americans
Yeah there are few places more full of hate than lemmy
Bye, then
Team sports
What the hell is this weird gimmick account shit?
It’s a reference to the theory that all facets of reactionary politics revolve around either “Team Sports” or “Cuck Porn”, and, under closer scrutiny, mostly cuck porn. I’ve only recently stumbled upon this, but i think it makes a lot of sense.
If you’ve got time, here is a very good article: https://www.liberalcurrents.com/the-interracial-cuck-porn-theory-of-everything/
Uh oh we got another anti-anti-bigot who thinks stating facts is wrong because it hurts their feelings.
Yes, a lot of Americans are evil. They simply don’t care about human beings. That hate people because they are gay, trans, progressive, or whatever Fox tells them to
Millions of people are not trash when they are born. They become trash when they are indoctrinated into our fucked up culture of rape, war, and continuous violence
I want them to change, suffering doesn’t accomplish anything.
“All” is not “a lot”. But I understand being a binary thinker, mainly because it’s all I see when I read any comments on this platform
There is a lot more nuance below the surface that you are ignoring in a disingenuous attempt to make Lemmy out to be the problem.
Lemmy is a problem but only because it reflects society. It IS a problem that every 10th comment on here is relishing Americans suffering or calling us all evil.
Your “wah your feeling don’t matter” comment is a distraction and is based in conservative thinking. We deserve a world where the left wing values of empathy and inclusion are actually practiced instead of used as an excuse for bigotry and hatred. It is not left wing to wish death or suffering on anyone you see as politically different to yourself.
The irony of you calling me out for ignoring nuance… lol
Literally the only thing I’m commenting on is people’s fucked up extreme lack of nuance when thinking about Americans as they relate to their country’s politics and leaders.
Try again.
Lemmy does not reflect society as a whole at all really. We have no real right wing unless you count .ml which they would very much disagree with.
I never said your feelings don’t matter, but that you are hurt by the truth. I think this is objectively true based on your statements. Please know condeming America really isn’t condeming the humans that live there that disagree about what is going on.
Empathy for this downtrodden is natural, not so much for the oppressors. Are you suggesting we should have empathy for bigots and racists. If so should we give them equal empathy to someone they abuse and murder. I think you should examine your feelings carefully here because it seems like you are suggesting some kind of bizarre equality in empathy.
A lot of the left wing is nonviolent, but not all. Consider the US has actively expelled and murdered left leaning people and currently condems them as enemies is our reality. You say you want to give people empathy, but it appears the left doesn’t get it from you. I suppose this answers the earlier question and brings a spotlight on your motivations.
I am afraid the only irony here is you claiming that everyone here hates Americans as opposed to what they do. This juxtapose of the situation is the disingenuousness I am speaking of. There is an easy solution to your problem. You can just ask why. As in why do you think Americans are evil. I bet the answers you get will surprise and challenge you. This is far more productive than your accusational nature and hurt feelings you display.
I am afraid you really don’t know what your commenting on because you have failed to reflect why you feel the way you do and admit that what America has done and continues to do is not only wrong, but is evil in nature.
Goddamn I really overestimate people sometimes.
Yeah, no shit. I assumed you would understand my words as:
You took my words 100% literally which is weird and only makes sense if you’re making a concerted effort to dodge the point.
Which is clearly just a way to ignore the point and make it about me personally even though I never said anything about my feelings. This is a common maneuver used by the right wing.
You again strive to ignore the point. I’m not talking about cases where it isn’t condemning the people. I’m talking about claims that we’re all Nazis and that we deserve bad things, and that we’re all responsible for Donald Trump. All these statements are very clearly condemning us as people in general.
…You know you’re making shit up; just letting you know that I know that you know it.
You’re either a troll, intoxicated, or a huge idiot. Empathy in this case, very extremely obviously, meant to have empathy for Americans who oppose our Nazi government/populace. This could not have been clearer. I sure feel sorry for the teachers you had in school.
This was simple. Americans aren’t all evil, many people here say they are. Directly and indirectly. All the time. In this thread. And you know this. You seem to want to imply the same but not outright say it yourself because you’re now aware that I’d call you a bigot for it, which you are. I won’t be responding to anymore of these cancerous bad faith takes. I hope you have the day you deserve.
It is clear your not coming from any sort of understanding and instead you are acting obtuse. I suppose I overestimated you considering you have someone who is willing to explain to you what is really going on. You don’t really care though, this much is obvious.
You deny your feelings are hurt by the truth which is silly since you are here conveying your hurt feelings. Your lack of candor here is pretty silly.
I am not making anything up. You are saying that there is no reason to consider the US evil. This is patently false. You try to take it to the extreme that people here are out for blood to try and prove your reductive point.
You have not asked them why they feel this way. You remind me of when a progressive confronts a conservative asking why a trans person is bad and the conservative is unable to articulate why. In contrast, people here will be happy to articulate why.
Let make it clear for you again. There are serious reasons people are saying these things. The fact that you choose to be ignorant and pretend otherwise is the problem not Lemmy. You are the problem and coming here to call people who rightfully say America is evil are bigots is just another disgusting lie you choose to perpetrate.
I didn’t read this, lying/blocked troll.
Cry harder, removed.