• dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org
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    9 days ago

    No way he ran on healthcare and childcare. Maybe im dumb and dont remember, but maga is very much against aca and medicare for all, and any kind of socialized service.

    If you were saying he ran on “no new wars”, sure.

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      9 days ago

      He ran on “LET ME TELL YOU, IT’S GREAT, VERY GREAT, IT’S THE BEST, IT’S VERY BEST, YOU WOULDN’T BELIEVE, THE FAKE NEWS MEDIA, EVERYTHING FAKE, I’M AWESOME, THE MOST AWESOME, THE BEST MOST AWESOME, MANY PEOPLE SAY”

      And people literally fell for that shit. That was his whole program.

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        Trump ran on “It sucks now, and I have a concept of a plan for the best healthcare ever”.

        Trump spoke towards a truth we all feel about how bad it is, then lied about the cause and what he was going to do, democrats told us better things aren’t possible, america is already great, but if you vote for us, we miiight consider doing .01% less genocide.

        People fell for it because the alternative “Shut the fuck up and vote for tax cuts for small business owners and The Most Lethal Military Evar!” is too depressing.

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      Im pro medicare for all, but im anti aca. The ACA raised my health insurance massively. I paid 6k a year in 2012, and now i pay 36k a year.

      Forcing everyone to pay into for profit health insurance doubled healthcare in a few years.

      The average health insurance cost per person should not be 18k a year, no one should be paying 36k a year like i do.

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          8 days ago

          These are rounded to the nearest 1k.

          In 2012 i paid 6k a yr In 2015 i paid 12k In 2018 i paid 18k In 2021 i paid 23k In 2023 it was 29k This year is 36k.

          From from 2004-2010 my plan went up about 5% a yr. After 2010, my insurance went up about 20% a year. The only difference was the ACA, and it was talked about a lot in the years. The trade off was people who could afford healthcare or has there own business should pay more to cover the subsidized people who couldn’t afford it. It actually caused a significant amount of people to take pay cuts, increased premiums, or refuse insurance and just take the tax penalty. I took the tax penalty for 2 years because i couldn’t afford the increase in rates at first. I assisted my rates i charge my customers and i was able to get back on after 2 years.

          What has trump done to change healthcare prices? As far as me personally he got rid of the penalty which saved friends i know a few thousand a year. Other than that, not anything else because the prices have continued to go up faster than inflation. Biden was the same to, but the rates going up so much was probably due to covid because I’m not aware is any policies he did that would have effected the rates.

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            The Trump admin, for both terms, has attacked the ACA causing the prices to skyrocket by making it harder to get coverage.

            This is by design.

            Premiums are up as much as 150% in places.

            It’s wild you’re saying he didn’t do anything to the prices but point at presidents who attempted to sure it up.

            The ACA sucks relative to the idea of Medicare for all BUT it’s not the reason your insurance costs so much.

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        My point is I really doubt he ran on a pro-healthcare pro-daycare platform. I could be wrong, but I would be shocked to learn otherwise.

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          He made statements that we’d have the money to pay for things if we didn’t go to war.

          So to now say that we can’t pay for something because of war is in direct contrast.

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          8 days ago

          I don’t think trump ran on pre healthcare or prodaycare either, and I’m pretty sure Republicans are anti paying for that stuff in general.

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          My plan is 36,468 per year for kiaser HMO.

          I pay monthly, $3039. It for the kaiser family plan. It’s for me, my wife, and two kids.

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              That’s right. The average people pay in is 18k a year, but a lot of people have employers that help cover some of it. Small business owners it self enjoyed people don’t have that privilege.