Capitalism
Oh yeah, by all means, stop using all Google related services, then realize that about 50% of web services for banking, agriculture, logistics, infrastructure, telecommunications, research and development, industry, transportation, healthcare and energy are hosted on GCP
“Oh but my service is hosted on AWS/AZURE”
Yeah and what do you think is the fallback in case of DRP?
Which is a long way to say that Google exists as a prime failure of the government’s onus to regulate businesses. Google should never have been allowed to creep its tentacles into so many facets of life.
Just as with most technology, the Feds have been turning a blind eye, and pocketing cash while tech robber barons privatized existence.
I agree with the sentiment, but GCP typically isn’t the fail over. Most people will start with AWS and fail over to Azure, or start with Azure and just fail into nothing.
To stop using Google you would need to find every app that used Firebase and ignore them, that would be one of the hardest parts. You couldn’t use GitLab or other SaaS tools that work out of GCP. You’d likely need to just get offline to avoid their ads.
AWS is the professional one. Azure has Microsoft power. GCP tends to be less well through of. Alibaba isn’t far behind GCP. Even a fistful of smaller providers will collectively have double the users/revenue or more It is usually 30% for AWS, 20% Azure and 10% GCP these days.
Not to say GCP is bad, I like BigQuery as much as the next guy, but alluding that it’s the fail over or fallback for professional companies is not accurate.
This is nothing new for Google, compliance with local laws…
As a business, they’re respecting the current US administration - probably weighing the likelihood of penalties depending on which side of the US legal system they choose to obey.
It’s amazing how Trump, a man who has never had a single successful business in his life, has been successful in intimidating much more successful businesses.
I will be damned if he does not go down in history as the most accomplished conman in history. Forget about the people who invented the Brooklyn Bridge scam (ever heard the expression ‘if you believe that I have a bridge to sell you’? That’s where it came from) or the guy who sold the Effel Tower, or Ponzi, or whatever. Trump demolishes all other conmen in how he managed to time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time again fool so many people into giving him their money for his failed ideas, but also told them to eat shit all the way and told them to kiss his ass harder next time he comes along to demand money for more failed businesses.
In that end he is remarkably competent. The only thing he is good at.
They’re eager to appease. They all want to be giant corrupt monopolies and are thrilled at being given the opportunity by the tv gameshow host.
They know if they don’t take our political power away, we will eventually dismantle and regulate their tech empires.
I don’t think it’s Trump at all. Who did Musk have suddenly contact with before veering far right? Who had several meetings with Trump in his first term that no-one was allowed to record? And who is waging a cyberwar of misinformation and propaganda right out of “Foundation of Geopolitics” since at least 2014?
It’s Putin. Trump is just the smokescreen. He tries to achieve globally what he did in Russia, aligning all oligarchs under himself with the promise of even more obscene riches. And with the US the first domino has fallen for good. Next he will try to destroy the EU (Brexit was only the trial run).
At this point, only China might put him in check and they will only do it if it helps their own plans of global domination (they seem to prefer a soft approach for now). A truly united EU might also help, but I don’t have a lot of hope for that.
I think he was unexpectedly successful in winning the 2016 election.
I also think that by mid 2017 “his” administration had built up collection of “advisors” who have been increasingly calling the shots since then. They give him “on brand” scripts to read, but he’s not personally orchestrating much of anything.
Tech megacorps are wusses, in other news fire is hot.
They’re not wusses, they were just biding their time to unveil their true selves.
See, this assigns a level of human personality to corporations that I don’t think we should be doing. It implies there is a “true self” to be revealed, when in reality the “self” of any corporation is entirely plastic and follows what the Excel Sheet tells them will make Line Go Up. Most corporate suits aren’t Elon Musk (who is, in fact, a human being, just a terrible one). Most corporate suits are dead inside and haven’t had a soul or a human emotion since 1985.
No, they just do whatever they can to appease whoever is in charge, because that is how they make money. They only became “LGBTQ friendly” when that was mainstream-acceptable and government-endorsed. And now that the culture is swinging the other way (more than half of americans wanted this fascist descent, never forget that) and the US is going all in on white supremacy and puritanism, they switch tunes right away. Case in point dia da consciência negra, the Brazilian equivalent of a black-history thing is still labelled on my Brazil-facing Google Calendar, because it’s still a government-sponsored and mainstream commemorative date here.
The thing is, corporations are run by people. Sometimes it’s a singular personality like Musk or Zuckerberg, sometimes it’s a board, but every one of those decisions is made by one or more human beings.
A corporation is not a person, but don’t deny the agency of the people that run it. They created the awful world we live in, and they did it with the explicit goal of taking from us.
See, nothing you said contradicts what I said. Yes, they created this world, and they did so to drain from us.
But. And this is important.
Their malice is the kind of sociopathic malice that leaves little space for personal enmities. They see all human beings outside their caste as a resource to be exploited, not complete living persons that can be liked or disliked (ever notice how every corp has a literal “Human Resources” department? Yeah.) – Just another datapoint in a dry and emotionless calculus of power.
In other words, most corporate boards don’t really give a shit about queer people, but will say they support queer people if that is popular at the moment, and similarly will say they hate queer people if that is what is popular at the moment. Consider Disney’s inserting of LGBTQ characters in their movies… That can be easily and effortlessly edited out for sale in countries where that isn’t mainstream-acceptable. So that in some countries they can generate buzz about it, but in others they can bury it easily.
It’s all about the money and never about anything else.
I’d say the egregore of a company does have a personality, but you’re right - it’s not human. We’re not great at understanding non-human intelligence even in other mammals. Another example being the discourse surrounding AI.
Interesting, my phone just disabled Google calendar due to my pressing and holding on the icons. Can’t help but wonder if these events are related.
They might be since I refuse to get up with fleas after lying down with nazi hounds…
That’ll show them!
wow such enthusiastic ass kissers. “Am I kissing hard enough Daddy? Will you let me run rampant and monopolize on tech Daddy?”
Do no evil…
Holy fuck! Welp, today’s the day, I’ve been a heavy Google user since they became a company basically. Starting to unwind all that TODAY.
Good luck. I’m also on that process. Just changing email provider is enough work with over 300 accounts using my Gmail address. Don’t give up, but be aware it’s a lot of work.
Don’tbe evil.Starting to makes sense. All this anti American crap was happening last time he was president too. I thought the world was going mad, but he was pushing. It was him the whole time.
This is hardly a push. These companies are changing because they want to change. No one is forcing them to change things. He’s just giving them cover.
Yeah, how does it benefit Google to do this? Or benefit the NFL to remove End Racism? Someone had to be sitting in a room and think, “Oh, nice! Now we can finally remove that bullshit and nobody will oppose it.”
“We will also be adding Lynch a Minority for the following states…”
- Virginia
- North Carolina
- South Carolina
- Georgia
- Florida
- Alabama
- Tennessee
- Mississippi
- Louisiana
- Texas
- Arkansas
- Oklahoma
I’m so glad I’ve been de-googlifying these past few years. All that’s left is an Adblocked YT and a Gmail account I mostly use to sign up for random shit.
Any tips or suggestions?
mailbox.org for mail. you can watch most youtube using freetube and skip the ads and sponsors.
Regarding YouTube, the only real options you have are Peertube (which has little content and a discovery problem) or Odysee (which is fine as long as you don’t look at the comments)
As for E-Mail, due to the recent proton situation the only real option (unless you don’t care about that) is self hosting
There’s plenty of privacy respecting non-proton options that don’t involve trying to set up your own mail server.
I am not fully degoogled by any means (it is really hard when family uses and relies on Google products), but you can always start with your own domain and a private (paid) email service (like fastmail or proton). It’s an easy step to take for yourself (but getting everyone you know to start using the new one takes time).
I have a Synology NAS I use for storage, photos, and media. It’s easy mode storage l, and comes with a lot of apps you can install to replace ones you might use from Google/apple.
Unfortunately proton is no longer a company I trust either. It’s getting harder and harder to find a safe haven…
I haven’t seen anything really discouraging out of Infomaniak, either, for e-mail and drive services. Been using them for a while now.
Hadn’t learned about changes to proton, I use fastmail personally but have people I know who recommend proton, maybe that has changed
tuta has been great in my experience as long as you only need email. I was actually able to just get my last name@tuta.com and use addy.io for email forwarding.
The only google I use is youtube. I started out on the internet in the 90s and while I was introduced to google, I found it highly unappealing and I was a yahoo guy until I made duckduckgo my default search. I got a lot of my news from yahoo news at one point.
Proton has a variety of solid services: mail, drive, calendar, vpn, etc.
I think they’ve taken into the category of fascist loving snakes now the way I understand it
yep. their CEO kissed the ring. cancelled my subscription immediately.
They also changed gulf of Mexico officially to gulf of America in Maps
Just a note to add here. Bing maps does exist. And they haven’t followed this insanity. (so far)
Or better yet, Yandex has a map and navigation app!
What’s Bing? /s
They should have a Normal / Maga toggle for their apps
How dumb. Seriously how fucking dumb do you have to be to go along with something that is so juvenile and stupid. Everything about it is dumb.
They’ve done this for every disputed area around the world for a long time. Depending on where you’re logging in from you’ll see a different locale.
I see “Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)” in Canada which is fucking stupid. Nobody outside of the US recognises “Gulf of America”
Basically nobody in the US recognizes Gulf of America either.
I mean, most people could probably figure it out by deduction, but nobody is going to point right to it on a map.
Just checked, same in Norway. Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)
Will they change Ukraine to Russia?
Prove that
Another user just replied to me confirming they show a hybrid label for it. It’s also kind of general knowledge for anyone who has consumed their Maps API. Lmk if you need links.
Yeah I’m de-googling, fuck this
What’s everyone using for email in a post Google world?
Hey. Been using it for years. It’s great
mailbox.org has been pretty good. you can also sync contacts and calendar using DAVx5 on android. They don’t have any official apps. but thunderbird mobile works well.
Tutamail. Actually great company values. Company works more like a coop. Diversity and inclusion is part of its message. Encryption is paramount.
Tuta and Mailbox
Selfhosting. (But I recognize that that is not an option for everyone.)
I’ve been running my own email for 25 years and wouldn’t recommend it to anyone. 😔
I always thought that I would just end up in spam or just blocked if I tried self hosting it 😅
Fair TBH. It is such a critical service to keep working.
But it does feel pretty amazing to free yourself of the whims of a provider 😅 I assume that’s why you have not gone back either? ^^
For many years it was just that I didn’t trust anyone not to hand my data over to someone else, whether that be governments, companies, or (unintentionally) hackers.
Nowadays I would probably trust Proton Mail, since they have pretty good encryption. But as you point out then I would be dependent on a provider.
Currently I mostly have problems when I lose power or when my ISP renumbers. Probably I should just migrate and save myself pain from Google and Microsoft making it hard to send mail to their users (which is most people on the planet).
Oh shit, yes, hosting at-home and with a non-static IP sounds like hard mode, oof.
I am hosting at a server provider (guess I am dependent on them, but at least it’s on their existence, not on a policy-of-the-day), with a static IP. Had no problems with MS/Google, only with T-online, who wanted me to host a website on the domain with clear contact information.
I want to do this. Do you know of any good VPS provider in a privacy-respecting jurisdiction that allows this?
I’m using Hetzner in Germany. Need to message them to say you want the relevant ports opened (spam protection measures), happens within an hour usually.
I quite like their service, but of course use full disk encryption etc
posteo
Fastmail
Addy.io + Posteo
protonmail
I think there is some news about proton CEO
Proton mail is pretty good. And they have a trustworthy VPN service.
Update: I officially rescind my statement. Do not use Proton.
Fuck proton, get off proton.
Get mullvad if you want a good VPN provider. Get tutamail if you want a good email provider.
Are there any alternatives with similar features?
Tutanota & fastmail get reccomended often lately (i still need to check them out) Posteo is good too but they have only paid options (1€+)
