The thing I always wonder when I hear about these bills is whether cis women would be more uncomfortable with noticeably MtF individuals in their bathroom, or with passing FtM individuals in their bathroom. My money’s on the latter.
Buck Angel is a loser and a jerk. Like, Can we pick a better example than a guy whose claim to fame is porn and hating non-binary people? I could give you 5 reasons he sucks, and someone else could jump in to give you five more.
Jamison Green is a personal hero of mine, and a much better representation of the community.
It’s just kind of annoying that he is probably the most famous trans man, that he’s the example that always gets brought up in this conversation, but that he literally supports bathroom bans for non-op trans women.
Imagine if the only trans women that people knew about was Blair White but a porn star.
I feel like I can speak ex cathedra for all trans men in asking allies to use men like Jamison Green instead. He’s the kind of man that represents the best of us, and I think all men would benefit from reading him.
It’s a terrible catch-22 for trans people. Either you use the restroom that conforms to your apparent gender and risk being charged with a crime, or you use the restroom that conforms to your birth gender and risk being harassed or assaulted by others. Honestly, these laws are just an attempt to punish trans people for existing in a public space.
They certainly aren’t laws that solve any problem, so we have to assume it’s control, harassment, or punishment. Or all of the above.
If they really cared they simply would change the code to one person per private space, by that a full washroom, or a private stall.
The bathrooms in my kids school have private locking stalls floor to cieling and a common washroom area that is fully open to the hallway. All the kids feel safe and comfortable. Adults do to. The common space is safe, the private space is safe.
But these people in Kansas aren’t interested in making anyone safe or comfortable. Or even make an effort to do something worthwhile.
The answer the UK settled on was to ban trans men from essentially all single sex public restrooms.
These kind of laws really exist to be a covert way of banning trans existence in public; there have been trans women in the UK who have sued because they have essentially no ability to use changing rooms or piss at work, because the law doesn’t require employers to provide single stall/all gender restrooms.
The thing I always wonder when I hear about these bills is whether cis women would be more uncomfortable with noticeably MtF individuals in their bathroom, or with passing FtM individuals in their bathroom. My money’s on the latter.
Buck Angel enters the bathroom the law requires him to use.
Conservative CIS women who supported the bathroom bill:
Buck Angel is a loser and a jerk. Like, Can we pick a better example than a guy whose claim to fame is porn and hating non-binary people? I could give you 5 reasons he sucks, and someone else could jump in to give you five more.
Jamison Green is a personal hero of mine, and a much better representation of the community.
This is the guy the Right wants in bathrooms.
100%, I’m in no way making a value statement about the kind of man Buck Angel is.
I just use him as an example because of his extremely masculine appearance, not because of anything to do with who he is as a person.
It’s just kind of annoying that he is probably the most famous trans man, that he’s the example that always gets brought up in this conversation, but that he literally supports bathroom bans for non-op trans women.
Imagine if the only trans women that people knew about was Blair White but a porn star.
I feel like I can speak ex cathedra for all trans men in asking allies to use men like Jamison Green instead. He’s the kind of man that represents the best of us, and I think all men would benefit from reading him.
What about Schwoz?
Never heard of him before today. My reference point is Elliot Page.
It’s a terrible catch-22 for trans people. Either you use the restroom that conforms to your apparent gender and risk being charged with a crime, or you use the restroom that conforms to your birth gender and risk being harassed or assaulted by others. Honestly, these laws are just an attempt to punish trans people for existing in a public space.
The cruelty is the point.
They certainly aren’t laws that solve any problem, so we have to assume it’s control, harassment, or punishment. Or all of the above.
If they really cared they simply would change the code to one person per private space, by that a full washroom, or a private stall.
The bathrooms in my kids school have private locking stalls floor to cieling and a common washroom area that is fully open to the hallway. All the kids feel safe and comfortable. Adults do to. The common space is safe, the private space is safe.
But these people in Kansas aren’t interested in making anyone safe or comfortable. Or even make an effort to do something worthwhile.
They want to make people miserable.
The answer the UK settled on was to ban trans men from essentially all single sex public restrooms.
These kind of laws really exist to be a covert way of banning trans existence in public; there have been trans women in the UK who have sued because they have essentially no ability to use changing rooms or piss at work, because the law doesn’t require employers to provide single stall/all gender restrooms.
Terrible.