The Trump administration will revoke temporary protected status for thousands of Somali nationals in the United States in the face of White House claims that the diaspora community in Minnesota participated in widespread fraud, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said Tuesday.

Noem told Fox News that Somalis with temporary protected status would be required to leave the country by March 17. She argued that conditions in Somalia have improved and added that “allowing Somali nationals to remain temporarily in the United States is contrary to our national interest. We are putting Americans first.”

In a separate social media post, the Department of Homeland Security wrote: “Our message is clear. Go back to your own country, or we’ll send you back ourselves.”

The move would affect thousands of Somalis in the United States, though not the majority of the U.S. Somali community, many of which are already permanent residents or U.S. citizens. Yet the announcement comes as the federal government ramps up its immigration enforcement operations in Minnesota, the state with the largest Somali population in the United States.

  • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.today
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    21
    ·
    23 hours ago

    But capitalism is about making a profit above all else, isn’t it?

    If you purposely ignore 20-50% of the potential hiring pool regardless of qualifications simply because you’re a bigot, someone else is going to hire them (potentially for less) and simply outcompete you.

    • LePoisson@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      22 hours ago

      That’s not how it works in real life and I think you know that.

      Capitalism is its own complex beast and one I’m not going to opine on here but I fucking wish we lived in a meritocracy where you could just hire people that are good and magically crush it in the market. We very much don’t.

      • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        11
        ·
        21 hours ago

        I fucking wish we lived in a meritocracy where you could just hire people that are good and magically crush it in the market.

        Cream rises to the top all by itself, doesn’t it? You don’t need to legislate that. Neither do you need to legislate gravity.

        The reason there is no meritocracy in our economy is precisely because we have laws against it, not in spite of it.

        Or are you saying that hiring the most competent people isn’t an automatic guarantee that you’ll crush it? In which case, why would you be in favor of a law that requires employers to hire the most competent candidates?

        • LePoisson@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          21 hours ago

          Cream rises to the top all by itself, doesn’t it? You don’t need to legislate that. Neither do you need to legislate gravity.

          But you do need to legislate against discrimination and pollution and etc (insert long list of heinous shit that’s happened in American history that led to legislation).

          The reason there is no meritocracy in our economy is precisely because we have laws against it, not in spite of it.

          No. It’s because of crony capitalism and human nature and more but it definitely isn’t because we have laws against it. That doesn’t even make sense.

          Or are you saying that hiring the most competent people isn’t an automatic guarantee that you’ll crush it? In which case, why would you be in favor of a law that requires employers to hire the most competent candidates?

          I’m saying you can have more talented people and still lose in the marketplace for a zillion reasons. I’m in favor of laws that protect people from being discriminated against, which generally leads to more qualified people getting hired regardless of their skin color.

          Anyways, on the off hand change you’re engaging in good faith and not just a troll - I highly suggest you read up some on the history of minority groups in the USA; particularly how former slaves were treated and how the reconstruction era after the civil war really fucked them over. Plus just the general exploitation of cheap migrant labor.

          That’s all I’ll say about all this.

          • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.today
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            7
            ·
            19 hours ago

            I’m not sure I understand. Are you saying that even though cream always does rise to the top, passing a law requiring to do so would make it go faster? Or simply that it would make you feel more reassured that it eventually will? If it’s the latter, should we perhaps also pass a law requiring the sun to rise every day, or that objects must always fall down instead of up? Where do we draw the line?

            • LePoisson@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              5
              ·
              18 hours ago

              Anyways, on the off hand change you’re engaging in good faith and not just a troll - I highly suggest you read up some on the history of minority groups in the USA; particularly how former slaves were treated and how the reconstruction era after the civil war really fucked them over. Plus just the general exploitation of cheap migrant labor.

              That’s all I’ll say about all this.

    • edible_funk@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      23 hours ago

      Are you actually this naive or are you engaging in bad faith? Are you unaware that racism exists and is rampant? Are you aware that capitalism as practiced is not remotely a meritocracy and there’s no actual free market?

    • agent_nycto@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      21 hours ago

      So you’re saying that making it so people hire based on how qualified they are rather than, say, race, is actually good for business. Because there are flawed and bigoted people out there, and even though a capitalist business is about making a profit, there’s people out there who would rather screw up the system over petty differences than have business be better and innovate more.

      • MacN'Cheezus@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        21 hours ago

        Sure, there probably are people like that, but they deserve to fail and go out of business, don’t you think?