ICE Out for Good vigils and rallies are being tracked online by Indivisible, the group behind the No Kings protests
More than a thousand protests are planned across the US this Saturday and Sunday after an ICE agent killed US citizen Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis this week.
“This weekend, people all over are coming together not just to mourn the lives lost to ICE violence, but to confront a pattern of harm that has torn families apart and terrorized our communities,” said Leah Greenberg, co-executive director of Indivisible, an organizer of “ICE Out for Good Weekend of Action”.
I was followed home by two unmarked SUVs today and was so scared that I didn’t even go into my dinner shift, I have resorted to writing numbers on my arm in case I am collected like the guys at Target who were both US citizens too… we are living in Nazi America now! Something has to change and this has to stop!!! I even have a safe word with my friends because I am so scared to go to work everyday!! No one should feel like that!
Peaceful protest and forceful resistance are wings on the same bird. We need both.
I like to say that peaceful protest is an opening offer, and it only means something if there’s a path to escalation when it’s rejected.
There is always a path to escalation. Whether or not it has a chance of succeeding is another matter.
Good! Keep them going, come back every week, build momentum. This is the first step, don’t stop now. Motivate people by showing that you are here and you won’t let them get away with it. Gather into specific spots like you did for Occupy, block roads, unionize and organize yourselves.
won’t let them get away with it
Using what leverage?
The thing they are most afraid of is NUMBERS. The Conservative Propaganda Machine tells MAGAs that they are the overwhelming majority in America, while ALL polls confirm that they are a shrinking minority. But their followers don’t believe that, because they’ve been carefully brainwashed to reject truth.
So as the massive crowds grow in EVERY part of America, even in small towns that are supposed to be MAGA territory, it begins to have an effect. They aren’t seeing any crowds of MAGAs counter protesting, just their opponents, and they are growing.
MAGAs are cowards at their core. They think their strength derives from massive acceptance and guns. When they see that the massive acceptance isnt there, they may think of the guns, but when they see those giant crowds, they know they’d get overwhelmed fast.
Suddenly, their advantage doesn’t look so good, and hopefully they start to think that maybe it’s best to slither back under the rock and wait for a better opportunity.
They aren’t seeing any crowds of MAGAs counter protesting, just their opponents, and they are growing.
The No Kings protest had record numbers of people and achieved nothing. That’s because it had a limited time frame and a mandate to not be disruptive.
It doesn’t matter how many people you have if you annouce ahead of time “we will gather until 10:00pm, then clean up after ourselves and go home.” That just tells the people you are opposing that they can ignore you and you will leave on your own.
Those numbers only matter if you take action with them until you get results. The protests need to be every day and continuous until Trump is removed from office. Not “evenings and weekends while we still continue to go to work and provide value to the oligarchs.”
Those crowds carry an very clear implicit threat: “We’re here, we’re pissed off, and we’re getting angrier, and we’re ORGANIZED!”
MAGA leaders understands the danger those crowds represent, and they are afraid of them, make no mistake. What they are probably too stupid to figure out is that for every person out there protesting, there are an equal number at home, spreading the message online, among their family and friends, etc.
IF the Peace Levee breaks, it’s going to get really dark for MAGA, and they KNOW it. They are covering their cowardice with transparent fake bravado, and they are desperate that we don’t see it whenever Hegseth, Noem, Bondi, Patel, Homan, PeeWee Himmler, Besset, etc. blather.
Those crowds carry an very clear implicit threat: “We’re here, we’re pissed off, and we’re getting angrier, and we’re ORGANIZED!”
And yet despite those crowds, here we are. The crowds and numbers did not prevent this. Action is needed.
You remind me of the posts I was seeing after Jan6, with people whining that the Traitors would totally get away with it. Eventually, over a thousand were convicted, and MANY went to prison, many for YEARS. You have to give the system time to play out.
We are just getting started, and the Midterm Election is the next big milestone. Until then, the mission is to keep amping up the threat until they finally surrender.
If not, we deploy the threat, but there are still important legal steps to get through first. They’re response to those steps will determine how far we’ll have to go, but we aren’t there yet.
Eventually, over a thousand were convicted
And Trump gave a blanket pardon to all of them.
We are just getting started, and the Midterm Election is the next big milestone.
I’m sure the people in Venezuela, Mexico, and Greenland will be glad to hear that action might be taken after the midterms. Plenty of time for Trump to destroy NATO with his illegal invasion of an “allied” nation.
All the people being kidnapped and shot by ICE just need to wait until the midterms!
No Kings is run by idpol libs who think a return to normalcy is somehow the path forward. When normalcy is exactly what got us here.
They also had no demands. They believe targeting a cog in the machine like Trump instead of the machine is going to be effective for change.
Peaceful protests have an implicit threat. We are peaceful so far. If it is ineffective, some elements might go aggressive.
A good example is the Irish troubles. The protests often started out peacefully. They could explode into civil unrest very easily however. Also, they are backed by the actions of the IRA. If the UK government tried to crush them, the IRA would have struck back HARD. They also moderated their own attack level. They didn’t want to drive people away from the political and protest wings, but make sure the UK government felt it. E.g. by calling in attacks before detonation. Thereby limiting civilian casualties, while maximising economic damage. They were more than capable of getting nasty however.
Without demands it’s not even a protest, it’s a limited time echo chamber rally.
So what does “ICE Out For Good” and protest signs reading “Abolish ICE” mean to you?
Meaningless gestures, they’ll head to the voting booths and elect politicians that have no interest in eliminating ICE. In case you don’t remember, there were also calls to defund police and defund ice in 2020 and the Democrat response was to increase ice and police funding to the highest levels they have ever received while greatly expanding detention centers across the country.
In typical fashion of people that do not know how to protest, they protest individual cogs in the machine and not the machine itself
Got it,
youryou’re just spouting nonsense and making up reasons to complain. You made the comment that these protestors had no demands, I gaveproudproof to the contrary and you just continue on with your rant. People like you really need to shut up and getit ifout of the way. All you’re trying to do is throw a wet towel on anything someone else tries to do. Leave and do your whining somewhere else.Those are not demands, if they were demands they would be demands of the entire system, not just what’s going on right now.
At the very least, the pressure of seeing that the people, multiple dozens of millions of them, are so against tyranny that they are in the streets every week or every evening.
This will make cowards and wannabe turncoats stop sucking the dictator’s dick and start acting against him because they feel legitimate to do so and aren’t afraid to be alone against tyranny anymore.
If noone ever moves, noone will ever move. If you show your discontent only by being sarcastic on the internet and waiting for the democrats of all people to act, they know nobody will oppose them.
And the movement actually realizing, growing and staying will feed the movement itself and has a chance to make the protests evolve into something more too.
they are in the streets every week or every evening.
It needs to be every day. It needs to be desrupting day to day functions, and it needs to have an end goal not an end time.
Staying in your designated spaces on Saturday and Sunday then going back to work on Monday just means you can be ignored until you give up.
Things are heating up. Melt the ICE
Americans will never learn this non-violent shit does nothing. They don’t care about your signs, your chants, dressing up like a frog, none of that is a threat to their existence. Until they feel threatened nothing will change. And that 3.5% non-violent protest bs is to keep everyone passive.
Non-violence won Civil Rights, and it ended the draft, and ultimately the Vietnam War.
There is a place in the process for non-violent protest, but violence always sits on the shelf, in plain sight of everyone, just in case it’s needed. It is best used as a threat, in case diplomacy fails. We still have a few legal steps to take before we deploy the Violence option.
The crazy thing is, they WANT violence, because they think they will prevail, and subdue us once and for all, but that’s just their virtuosic incompetence talking. I don’t care how many soldiers they have, they are outnumbered 1000 to 1 by patriots who have been raised on national fables of revolution and resistance to kings and kaisers and fuhrers and tyranny.
In addition, they have kicked out all their competent military leadership, and are left with those who are either cowards, traitors, or…sleeper agents who are remaining in power, biding their time until their are ordered to do something heinous, and then they will turn their troops against the administration. If that’s the case, certainly the "retired"officers are in touch with those Sleepers, and making plans.
Do we really think all those retired military leaders, agency leaders, lawyers, etc. are all just slinking away from their jobs quietly? That’s what MAGA thinks, that they’ve been humiliated and are too weak and embarrassed to ever show their faces again, but I have a hard time believing that. I doubt they are just sipping scotch and screaming at the TV. There are surely opposition plans to take this country back if it goes full Nazi, with round ups of citizens and dissidents, and concentration camps. These people didn’t spend their careers carefully climbing the military later, protecting America and Freedom the entire way, only to have a frat-boy putzes like Trump and Hegseth destroy it all.
You don’t understand what violence is, isn’t not just destruction of property, there is economic violence, which is what led to the civil rights bills, there is psychological violence which led to the end of the draft. There is neglect which would deny access to food and shelter. And of course collective violence.
There are a fair number of activities that fall under the umbrella of “non-violent protest” that involve a good bit more than just holding signs and writing letters.
You can deny them food, water, sleep, or comfort, you can follow them and record their activities, you can sabotage their vehicles (since they use rentals, it’s only destruction of private property, not government property) anything at all that can disrupt their activities and make life more difficult for them, short of assaulting them, is non-violent protest.
All that and you still dont understand violence
What do you propose? Go out and shoot a few ICE agents? They far outnumber and outgun those who are willing currently to protest violently. The opposition shooters would be crushed swiftly, and give the administration pretense to increase ICE funding/presence and push harder for military presence. Not to mention, it’d give them perfect ammo for their bullshit cannon about how “the left” are all violent lunatics (Good was a “domestic terrorist” according to them - can you imagine the “official” narrative if she actually had done something aggressive?!)
Half the voting population is still drinking the FOX news koolaid and think all the people getting detained/deported/murdered by ICE are actually murderers and rapists. Nonviolent protest raises awareness. No opposition will accomplish its goals if no one even knows there is a problem.
The only awareness these protests is raising is how ineffective they are. The only ones concerned about narrative are the ones that think it’s working. How long has Portland been protesting and what has been accomplished? Anyone directly challenging the system is gonna be labeled violent so they may as well live up to the label
Non-violent action works if big enough because people will actually start to act if they see that enough other people are fed up and willing to move their asses.
One march every month isn’t sufficient though, they have to ramp up the movement, they have to claim public spaces and make themselves unavoidable.
Even if you count on violence to work. Apart from two people with nothing to lose, noone will move their asses to enact said violence if they feel alone. Knowing that 50 millions others are mobilized and not letting go behind them, on the other hand…
It doesn’t have to be violent but it does have to be disruptive. The “Don’t cause too much trouble, clean up after yourselves, and be home by 11” protests aren’t doing a damn thing.
If you look at their finding for 3.5% they say it is not a guarantee and seems to be working less and less. As regimes learn from others failing and technology improves.
Oh no the events boo hoo. That will show those meanies. Lmao
1000 events that will accomplish nothing. Just like No Kings.
Nothing is going to happen to ICE or the self proclaimed president of Venezuela—Trump.
Oh yes the “you need to literally forfeit your life attempting to start an armed revolution or you might as well do nothing” comment.
Well go ahead you first
Until this guy gets the revolution started everyone else keep up the protests and civil disobedience
What civil disobedience? Protesting is not that.
As I advise all that want to shit on the actions of those doing something, be the change you want to see
Not American just funny seeing everyone say I can’t loose my healthcare so can’t protest can’t strike. It’s all working as designed.
There’s a lot between holding a sign and shooting a gun. The reason nothing will ever happen is because you refuse to see that.
Frankly I can’t think of any movement or resitance in history that didn’t involve either a protest or violence at some point.
You refuse to accept that protesting builds movements to the point where they can create large action. Certainly was part of the civil rights movement.
I definently support the people actually going to and organizing protesters a whole lot more than someone bitching online that this isn’t enough. Go ahead be the change you want to see
The civil rights movement was successful because of the economic violence of the Montgomery bus boycott which went on for over a year. If they tried today’s method of a few hours on a random Saturday they would still be protesting.
I see zero momentum. There is absolutely no difference between an ice protest and no kings. It’s gonna be the same people. Probably fewer. Same end result—nothing.
You can be frank until you’re blue in the face, but that doesn’t change reality. You just cannot accept that this country is done, despite the overwhelming evidence.
And, when someone ruins your good vibes with reality—you lash out and clutch your useless picket sign! The tactics of the civil rights movement worked THEN. They will not work NOW.
You say this as mass protest is currently forcing change in Iran. Mass protests directly led to multiple regime changes around the world in just the last 6 months.
The only ones who don’t want you to protest are those in power. Hence why places with less well enshrined rights to freedom of speech and freedom of assembly keep passing laws to try to ban effective methods of protest
You say this as mass protest is currently forcing change in Iran.
And how many people died in those protests? You need to be ready to defend yourselves and until Americans are willing to do anything with the slightest risk to it nothing will change.
That was not the United States. Focus.
So…you’re saying that protest which has worked and is currently to effect change in other countries, and which has worked previously in the United States, can’t possibly work right now in the United States as we enter an election year?
Enjoy licking those boots!
The tactics of the civil rights movement worked THEN. They will not work NOW.
General strikes and Civil disobedience won’t work now?
Kinda running out of options that don’t involve guns bud.
You just cannot accept that this country is done
Oh gotcha you’re just not even wanting to try anything at all. Thanks for clearing that up.
General strikes and Civil disobedience won’t work now?
Are they happening now? Or is everyone having another “We Don’t Like Trump Convention” for a weekend before they clean everything up nicely and go home in time to be at work on Monday?
Are you doing anything other than judging others online? You are welcome to organize something.
But in context of the conversation they said that the methods used during the civil rights movement wouldn’t work now. Those methods were general strike and civil disobedience. Hence why I was asking why the commentator thought they wouldn’t work today
No one is general striking. All to afraid to loose health care.
Again, you only see picket signs vs bullets.
I must not be willing to try ANYTHING because I disagree with you. Despite me saying otherwise this whole time.
Like I said, clutch you picket signs and block your ears.
Have the day you fought for 💋
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Nothing can happen until the November election.
No Kings needs to organize and flip every red seat they can. It seems likely the House will flip. It’s POSSIBLE (but unlikely) the Senate will flip.
You’re not going to vote your way out of fascism. They’ll just refuse to seat any Democrat that gets elected. They did that for a month already and faced zero consequences for doing so.
November is too long of a wait
That’s the way politics works, you get another election and vote them out.
No kings is dead. No ICE (or whatever) is gonna last a month. By October, there will be some sort of gestapo set up to disrupt elections. The post office already removed incoming timestamps for one reason—mail in vote suppression.
The future is crystal clear—I dunno how you fools keep talking about “next election” like this is going to ever end.
Not sure what makes you think No Kings and 5051 are dead, they’re still going and will only get stronger as we get closer to election season.
There will be a next election because elections are run at the state and local levels, the feds can’t stop it even if they wanted to.
Industry has grown around this type of sabatoge. Now specific people are in charge of preventing these problems, and will be removed swiftly if everything they touch disintigrates.
I do like this doc, although I wish someone would update it to our cause. We need something geared to sabotaging ice and the right wing… but with an emphasis on safety and anonymity.
still, you first.
I’m leaving the country. Yall have fun.
excellent position between peaceful protest and bullets you chose there
I think it is. Because I know what is likely to happen…or, not happen.
Troll much? You can fuck off like ice!
you first
Oh it will accomplish something everyone who attends gets put on a list, you will be rounded up eventually. Unless we arm ourselves America is over. Fuck it’s already done.
right, agreed, more or less.
