• PugJesus@piefed.socialOP
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    On the upside, this means any country kidnapping Trump without warning will be an option. Canada, if you’re listening…

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      The First Gulf War was at least a legitimate and internationally sanctioned response to an unprovoked act of aggression by one power upon a sovereign nation.

      This is just… unilaterally fucking kidnapping a head of state we aren’t at war with because we don’t like him?

      Fuck, I have about the lowest opinion possible of Maduro, but this wasn’t the way to go about things, and God only knows how it’s going to end. I hope without massive casualties in Venezuela, but I suspect it will be something to that tune.

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            By who and how?

            USA’s military command seems to follow the order (illegals AND stupid) of this insane person in power, and he’s insane enough to order a nuke attack (I’m sure he’s dreaming about it)

            you cannot expect any other sane country to take a risk of nuclear war. The solution has to come from inside the USA

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          Yeah. Unfortunately, I don’t think we’re getting an international response of the same magnitude as Saddam got.

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      False. Oil is like the only thing right now that is actually cheap as fuck.

      We are going to war over a need to distract from the Epstein Files.

      The entire Venezuela story is just a subsection of the Epstein Files story. You are still watching the Epstein Files story.

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    The world’s biggest military superpower is now apparently willing to just kidnap anyone they don’t like, anywhere in the world, ignoring international law. That’s so fucking terrifying that I’m at a loss for words

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      The fuckers think they have jurisdiction in other countries, but disregard the international court.
      Dear citizens of USA, expect more hate your way.

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        Unfortunately, it’s going to be up to the rest of the developed world to do something about it. If Trump just gets away with it he’s absolutely going to invade another country before the month is over. It might be Canada, or Greenland, but this is going to give him the taste. If expansionism is on the plate, Mango Mussolini is gonna eat till someone kicks him out of the restaurant.

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          Mexico is next. Once the World Cup is over they will kidnap the president of Mexico and use drugs as an excuse.

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            Ooh, interesting take. I hadn’t considered that one at all. Perhaps a violent unification of the American Supercontinent is what’s in the works.

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      is now apparently willing

      Where have you been? There’s a reason US schools do not teach any South American history besides the Maya and Inca

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        Reminds me of Noriega which wasn’t all that long ago. They accused him of drug trafficking too.

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    Explanation: The US has, apparently, kidnapped Nicolas Maduro, the authoritarian leader of Venezuela. We did this, apparently, despite not being at war with Venezuela or having any other justification other than “We don’t like him.”

    There is a slim chance that it ends here, and everything turns out rainbows and butterflies. There is a much, much larger chance that this kicks off a larger war in which many Venezuelan civilians will die because shitwit here wants to play kidnapper, and the whole US system is too broken - or too disinterested - to stop him.

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      I honestly don’t know, what to think about this. Maduro is a dictator who had driven third of population out. So I have no sympathy for him. But it is clear that Trump administration doesn’t give a hoot about the people, Trump is even good friend with El Salvador’s dictator. Also, US was many times before successful with overthrowing regimes, but it usually ended in something worse. But in the end, US is the strongest country, so they can do whatever they want. I’m glad I live in a country that is considered an ally and has no oil.

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        If you haven’t been paying attention, the current us gov does not give two shits about who is or isn’t an ally and does not care about any previous agreements made

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      We’ve raised an entire generation, Z, with rewired brains. Anxiety regarding anything even remotely resembling confrontation, including face to face interactions with humans. Not unlike Murderbot’s inability to directly interact without using his drones as a go between buffer for his own eyeballs. Minus the android strength, speed, and general badassery.

      In addition, helicopter parents imbue a tendency towards the authoritarian. People are drawn to the familiar. Being told what to do, where to be, etc, instead of sorting through it yourself creates a “lean” in that direction. A passiveness to go with the flow. In addition to the need to avoid all that nasty anxiety that comes with anything even remotely resembling confrontation.

      Not all, off course. We’re talking middle of the bell curve numbers here.

      So unless GenX learns to move past their creaky joints, and millennials decide they’re punk too, no one is going to do anything outside of organized, specific, one day limited marches in nice weather.

      GenX will likely die pushing people to free and open source and Linux, but that’s about all the rebellion against the system I think we can realistically expect from others here.

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        Hasn’t Gen X voted slightly more for trump than the alternative both times?

        Millennials and Gen Z both voted against him with a sizable difference. Gen Z significantly more than millennials which surprised me given the reporting that keeps seemingly gaslighting me that the kids are all fascists these days.

        If you’re gonna do this intergenerational conflict schtick, you should maybe try pushing free and open onto your peers and elders as they’re seemingly the ones in dire need of it.

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    Me on Jan 1: It’s a new year. It can’t be as bad as 2025. I’m gonna stop drinking, and exercise, lay off the weed, and cook healthy.

    USA on January 3: Invades a sovereign nation and kidnaps leader.

    Me on January 3: Fuck it. Chugs from a 5th of whiskey while rolling a blunt.

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    “We can’t get Greenland or the EU. Let’s go with another Latin American country, that has always worked before.”

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      Nope. The US bombed a dozen military installations around Caracas and then flew directly to Maduro with a bunch of helicopters. Screams of a negotiation arranged ahead of his time: I’ll make it simple for you to take me if you don’t shed Venezuelan blood.