• ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org
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    11 days ago

    Even if Trump had lost, one fact remains: tens of millions of Americans voted for this guy three times in a row.

    The first time, it’s conceivable that Americans made a mistake.

    The second time, they knew Trump as actual President.

    The third time, they knew Trump as a convicted felon, insurrectionist and overtly wannabe dictator, and they voted for him even harder.

    At this point, MAGA isn’t a freak event, it’s the norm. Even if the dems had won, they’d have won the presidency of a MAGA country, and quite frankly, what’s the point… You can’t cure someone who wants to be sick.

  • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 days ago

    Liberalism =/= leftism. But it’s completely normal for the hegemonic narrative to misunderstand or intentionally conflate these things.

    I think most people on the left realized Trump was probably going to win. It’s not a mystery.

  • orcrist@lemm.ee
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    11 days ago

    It’s not about election denialism. This is the standard problem with conspiracy theories being based on reality. Voter suppression has happened in small numbers and small ways for the last century. Pick your poison. Are we talking about felons being disenfranchised? Are we talking about taking native Americans off their roles because they don’t have home addresses and they use po boxes? Are we talking about rejecting college kids because they’re out of state? Are we talking about mailboxes being set on fire? Are we talking about polling places that are not handicapped accessible and never will be?

    All of those things continue to happen and each of them plays a small part. I don’t think that would make a break the election, not this time when the difference was so large, but it could make a break some elections.

    And as long as it’s left unaddressed, voters aren’t blind, they can see the shady shit. So then what, then you just don’t know how bad the problem is, and the same people that you would trust to compile data on how bad it is are the same people whose job it is to fix it, but they haven’t, so you can’t believe anything they say.

    All of which is to say, if people are skeptical that the game is fair, that’s based on proven reality from decades of experience. But that doesn’t mean it affected this election.