• Broadfern@lemmy.world
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    Plant growing is gendered now?

    All the cishet men I’ve known who have had gardens grew all kinds of stuff, from fruits and vegetables to culinary herbs and flowers.

    Maybe I’m in a bubble but damn I feel sorry for the dudes in the OP.

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      Yeah this is weirdly sexist. I only know one person this describes because he’s growing weed (legally) in an apartment so he can’t have a outdoor garden

      Hell, I know over a dozen men with gardens and only two even grow peppers. Everyone grows tomatoes, though…

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          My old coworker told me he had only ever eaten the transparent slices of flavorlessness fast food restaurants call tomatoes until he moved from the slums to a rural town and had a fresh one. It blew his mind so much he went on to spend 15 years as a chef.

          My dad’s been growing tomatoes my whole life so I’ve been spoiled

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            I grew up somewhat poor, small town with no fast food, post-soviet nation. We had a garden and a greenhouse. I was a teen when I found out how flavourless tomatoes can be. Because we’d always grown our own and didn’t use them as much in the winter when they needed to be bought from the store lol

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              It’s crazy how different they can be. I have no idea why they even include shitty tomatoes at those places. Awful texture and no taste, what’s the appeal?

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          I have a raised bed and just hang a loose net around the whole thing so the squirrels can’t get in. Otherwise those little buggers will take one bite out of each tomato and leave the rest for me to clean up.

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              The netting isn’t big enough for squirrels to get through. It’s draped down from the trellising, and pinned down to the ground. There’s no way for the squirrels to get in unless they climb up and over, and they don’t seem to be able to figure that out.

              Not sure what to do about the horn worms though.

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                hornworms are susceptile to parasitoids that target only them, but i dont know if you can even commerically purchase them.

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                Oh, so there are also trellises of some sort. What else is there? It’s also still it quite clear how this is configured - are these frustra surrounding each plant? Because that sounds like a lot of work for each tomato.

                As for hornworms, best we’ve found is a daily sweep with a jar of soapy water for ritual executions.

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                  I’ll just send a picture:

                  This was before I added the netting. I use tomato clips to hold up the plants:

                  Then the netting just goes all the way around the outside hanging down from the top, and secured at the bottom with ground clips.

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          Fucking stink bugs! My plants got a little out of hand this year and I had to pluck stink bugs off them every day. Still 60+ lbs of tomatoes tho

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      yes. everything is gendered for gender warriors.

      i’m cishet and i have a garden and most women i date think it means I’m secretly gay. the cat doesn’t help.

      gardening is considered feminine, or for old people. not for younger men who are supposed to be virile and dominant. they should be hunting.

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        Weird. Have they seen how much you can provide from a garden?

        Also, having a garden doesn’t preclude one from hunting… whatever that means in the modern era. You can only eat so much meat.

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        That’s wild, I’m sorry you gotta deal with that.

        Survival skills + demonstrated empathy/care with other living beings are positives for any person. Hopefully you find someone who appreciates that. /gen

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        Sure, but the OP doesn’t say “gender warriors”, it says “Western man”, which includes a whole lot more people than the tiny minority of those bigots.

        Sorry that you live in a bubble of bigots, but it is not a general or universal experience.

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        Well it looks like your garden has at least a double function - it filters out women with weird ideas about gender and sexuality 😁

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      Male gardeners as depicted in popular fiction:

      A real alpha male helps you carry The Ring to Mordor

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      I grow several varieties of peppers from sweet bells to habaneros, tomatoes, okra, cucumbers, and mint, plus a few odds and ends that look cool at the garden center. I tend to grow plants that either produce more per dollar to grow than I can get at the store, or in the case of tomatoes, of better quality. And mint is eternal.

      I also harvest beautyberries that have sprung up wild on my property, and have recently learned that the big weird thing looming over my wood shop is a black walnut tree, so I think I’m gonna go nuts next summer.

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      Same, I don’t know any dudes into gardening that care about that shit. One of them does grow peppers, but it’s because he likes peppers, not because he’s worried growing other stuff (which he also does) will make him look like a pussy.

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        /s maybe

        Well done; that gave me a chuckle…

        Its not gay if it your own soapy fingers right…right guys…oh fuck maybe I’m gay. No I can’t be, I hate the gays!!!

        • some closeted jock probably.
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    This is some poor bull shit… when did growing anything make anyone fragile?.. get outta here with your bs. Do you just go around trying to start shit?

    Why would you make up something like that? Maybe its your own masculinity that is fragile?

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    I don’t even understand this. I haven’t heard anyone even in the alt-right say growing plants was gay

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    Cacti and carnivorous plants are super cool tho??? Especially that you get cacti cuz of how resilient they are, a great first plant, can recommend. And growing your own food/spices as well? Also Ive never seen that stereotype lmao

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      Yeah it’s kinda weird. As if anyone is growing weed because it’s manly and not because it’s awesome

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    You avoid growing plants because it’s emasculating.

    I avoid growing plants because I’m awful at it and it’s cruel.

    We are not the same

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    If you have weed, hot peppers, and carnivorous plants, can I come over?

    Normal plants are great too, but clearly you are a person of taste.

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      carnivirous and succulents are pretty finicky in thier care too. depending on the species. echeveria and outside ornamentals are easy, but if your looking at something lithops or a different succulent it might harder.

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        How to keep a lot of plants at home alive: only buy the Aloe™ plants. I don’t know if it’s even possible to kill the ones I have without straight out drowning them. Forgot to water one of them for half a year and it started blooming instead of dying out. Now it gets watered only when I remember to water it.

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    Would that not be the plants they like? Everyone’s all for gender affirmation until it’s straight men seeking affirmation for theirs

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        Exactly right. Gender is performance. We commonly enhance this performance through clothing, the way we speak and how we refer to ourselves; this is not the only ways with which it’s done though. I think it would be rude to criticise a trans man for affirming their gender by growing a beard for example. However when it comes to cis men in particular, the way they reinforce their gender is often mocked. So what if the plants some grows makes them feel more comfortable in their gender.

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        What someone sees as affirming their gender is entirely up to them. Plenty of men do feel more masculine doing things like not using a straw, eating certain meals, listening to certain music, ect. Women might wear clothing that emphasises their figure. Some trans men feel affirmed in their gender by growing a beard, trans women might train their voice to feel more feminine. Gender is a performance and we all constantly make decisions to reinforce it. Thinking growing plants is gender affirmation isn’t a problem, it’s just a reality you’re not living. If someone grows those kinds of plants and it reinforces their gender identity, that’s valid and more power to them.

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    It’s this Chinese anti-West propaganda? I wonder if it works on Chinese people since it clearly doesn’t work here

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    I’ll be honest, I’ve never come across this.

    I’ve known people who aren’t too keen on growing flowers, if only because it takes up space where they could be growing something more productive.

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      Which is too bad, because including flowers in your garden (even if it’s only in the form of bolted vegetables) helps attract critters that will pollinate your “productive” plants as well as those that will help protect them from pest infestations. A balanced ecosystem lifts all boats, to mix my metaphors.

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        I refer more to growing flowers as the main event. Most people I know who garden outside use flowers in the way you described.

        I do however have one extremely “dudebro” guy friend who literally grew almost nothing but flowers for a few years, specifically to sell them to a florist :P