• Pennomi@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    One in 400 people is shot every day? Yeah I’m gonna call BS on this one.

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      5 months ago

      If I did the math right, for one person to be shot per day, we’re starting with a population of 10,440,000, not 400.

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      5 months ago

      I don’t think it was trying to be factual, but more trying to make a point.

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        5 months ago

        It’s not 3 times lower than that. It’s about 1 in a million, not 1 in 400. That’s 3 orders of magnitude less than the post claims. This is so hilariously wrong it undermines the credibility of the post.

        Which is sad because all these points are really important things to draw attention to.

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          Over what time frame? Did you include gun facilitated suicides? And in general getting shot, doesn’t mean getting killed.

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            5 months ago

            Yes, I included suicides and non-fatal injuries, and I used the same “daily” timeframe as the original post.

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          5 months ago

          You’re focusing on the wrong part of the post. The point of the post is that despite all of these horrible (and for a lack of a better word, fixable) things going on in the world right now, people are wrongly focusing on trans people as a problem.

          Also, there is such a thing as hyperbole, and it doesn’t mean that the point is invalid; instead it’s used to emphasize the point.

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            5 months ago

            If someone can’t make an argument factually, they should not present it as if it’s actual science. This is not hyperbole, it’s lying.

            Posts like this damage the message because it gives the right ammunition to say that we are liars.

            Much better to be scientifically rigorous.

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              5 months ago

              Not everything needs to meet scientific rigor. If that were the case, you would’ve provided me with at least three scientific studies demonstrating your side of the argument. But you didn’t, because it’s wholly unnecessary for a normal conversation.

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                5 months ago

                No, not everything needs scientific rigor, but it’s a false equivalence to suggest we should tolerate blatant misinformation.

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                  5 months ago

                  If that’s the hill you want to die on, that’s your prerogative, and I won’t fault you for it. I do disagree with you, but I also appreciate your time discussing this with me and challenging my assertions.

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        5 months ago

        Unfortunately since it’s relying on numbers to make it’s point it would hit a lot harder if it was factual…