• nifty@lemmy.world
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    43 minutes ago

    People are collectively losing their minds if their think any western country is anywhere near fascism. Have you lived in Russia or North Korea?

    Western nations are losing the psyops war, which is what you see in a lot of countries.

    The main problem is that our representatives and elected officials are just as likely to believe emotional propaganda as any regular person.

    This is why we need better public education, so the general population has better critical thinking.

    • PriorityMotif@lemmy.world
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      6 minutes ago

      We’ve normalized mass surveillance. Local police have full, warrantless access to your travel habits from licence plate cameras. I can buy all of the data on you and find your political ideology. People are prosecuted for their political beliefs and actions every day.

    • jerkface@lemmy.caEnglish
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      13 minutes ago

      Without reference to other nations and countries, what elements of fascism do you believe are missing that makes the label inaccurate or inappropriate

    • DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world
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      19 minutes ago

      I’m pretty sure moving into a administration who plans on mass deportations requiring holding camps, literal work camps for the mentally ill, and the degradation of regulations/rights are all clear signs we are moving in that direction.

      I mean come on man, Trump couldn’t have his first pick for AG be approved because he said “We will drag the bodies of our political opponents through the streets” he said that, and that was Trump’s first choice for the most powerful prosecutor in the country.

      When the fascists show us who they are WE SHOULD BELIEVE THEM!

  • tibi@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    In the Romanian presidential elections we just had, we have a fascist extreme right-wing candidate who got 1st place (note that we have a 2 round election system and this was only the first round). He appeared out of nowhere with a TikTok campaign, he didn’t have a traditional ad campaign, he didn’t participate in any debates, a lot of people who don’t use TikTok haven’t even heard about him. We will know in 2 weeks if we become fascist or not.

    There are 2 problems. First is the hybrid war going on. The western world needs to do better. Ban TikTok and take drastic measures to limit the spread of misinformation and propaganda on social media.

    The second big problem is that western leaders are ignoring the real problems affecting average people. The out of control immigration (the problem isn’t with the people immigrating, but with a system unable to integrate them into the rest of the society), rising costs, unaffordable housing, huge tax burden are real problems that aren’t being addressed. People are rightfully angry with the current leaders and are looking for alternatives. But most people aren’t very smart or care enough about politics, so they are easy prey to propaganda and extremist groups that are calling out these problems.

  • stevedice@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    7 hours ago

    Mexican here. Last month, a reporter known for being critical of the government was fired live in the middle of his segment. We’re definitely going fascist.

    • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      5 hours ago

      Yeah, this is a strangely euro-centric viewing. It needs to include so many more places. Russia is a big one that’s missing, for another example, and there are a ton more. We’re in bad economic times, which is where Fascists thrive. On the good side, leftists can also take advantage of it to actually help people if they succeed.

      • DrDickHandler@lemmy.world
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        3 hours ago

        We’re only in bad economic time because the wealthy elites and corporation gobbled up everything away from the public, which makes it even more sad.

        • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
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          48 minutes ago

          Yes, but it’s bad for everyone but them. The reason doesn’t really matter. It’s the same as always. It’s mostly the same conditions that led to the last rise in fascism.

          • jerkface@lemmy.caEnglish
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            11 minutes ago

            No, the reason absolutely does matter. If we were all suffering because of a global drought, that would be entirely different than all of us starving and going homeless at the peak of human production.

  • stupidcasey@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    Among the ones not going fascist north Korea, Russia, Eritrea, China, Syria, Iran…

    Among the ones going fascist New Zealand, Canada, Switzerland, Ireland, Denmark……

    • kent_eh@lemmy.caEnglish
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      41 minutes ago

      Among the ones not going fascist north Korea, Russia, Eritrea, China, Syria, Iran…

      They’re not going, because they’re already there.

    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
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      8 hours ago

      You’re correct, it’s innaccurate to not portray the entire world as descending into fascism, as has always been predicted on any path that embraces capitalism.

  • Zement@feddit.nl
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    9 hours ago

    India and China are missing. Japan is pretty fascist too… at least when compared to European “fascist” countries marked in the map.

    Apart from that… the amount of fascism is too damn high!

    • BluesF@lemmy.world
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      7 hours ago

      Is Japan “going” or just sitting roughly where it’s been for decades? I don’t know enough about Japanese politics but it doesn’t seem from my perspective like it moves fast.

      • Zement@feddit.nl
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        2 hours ago

        In my experience polite, but roughly as racist as the “old white racist/sexist man” - trope.

        I think it’s still a lot like in the 80s. The golden era of Japan. Maybe this is related.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish
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    11 hours ago

    Canada’s not fascist yet. We’re electing our own Vance in a few months, so save your sympathy for us then.

    Apparently the Corporation has been able to convince people - as they’ve tried from the start - that Hair Guy is somehow worse than them. They haven’t actually put forth a platform with any numbers or promises on it, but “hair guy bad” has finally found an audience so dumb to swallow it.

  • Fleur_@lemm.eeEnglish
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    14 hours ago

    Ah yes. The west. Famously known for being the most authoritarian of geopolitical regions.

    In the memes defense you can’t be moving towards authoritarianism if you’re already there.

    • Lodespawn@aussie.zoneEnglish
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      14 hours ago

      They said fascist, you can be authoritarian without being fascist.

      How do you know Shrek isn’t portraying someone in the west asking the rest of the west to stop turning fascist?

      • Fleur_@lemm.eeEnglish
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        13 hours ago

        If you want to play the fascism isn’t authoritarianism card then name a single state indicated in the meme that has taken up fascism as official policy.

        • Lodespawn@aussie.zoneEnglish
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          13 hours ago

          Fascism is most definitely authoritarian.

          Poo by any other name is still poo. Fascist principles can be seen to be taking root in many western countries. Do they label themselves fascist … well southern and eastern Europe seem to be starting to openly do that.

          Regardless, both Italy and Spain seem to be highlighted in the meme soo … there’s two?

              • Fleur_@lemm.eeEnglish
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                11 hours ago

                I wouldn’t say they’ve adopted a fascistic internal political system. Like they still have elections and aren’t led by a dictator. You can only be so ethno-nationalistic while remaining in the EU lol.

                • Lodespawn@aussie.zoneEnglish
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                  11 hours ago

                  Yeah Giorgia Meloni and the Fratelli d’Italia sound pretty ethno-nationalistic to me …

    • Incandemon@lemmy.ca
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      16 hours ago

      So, not particularly effectively and using it as an increasingly threadbare excuse for maintaining the status quo?