In order to proceed with this date, please answer the following questions.

Do you want to destroy this country or not?

You’d think that it would be an easy question to answer, but most wouldn’t know if they were.

but fascists will never admit they are fascists. too Yurripean.

Report, deport, whatever

What do you think of this particular peculiarity (I think it’s peculiar, anyway)?

How do you tag ppl on lemmy?

Given the amount of silicone needed to achieve the maga doll look I suspect that the comments upthread about sexbots might be more on the nose than initially thought- at least in some circles, and especially as the women on the right decide that they don’t want to be chattel.

My god they are all so butt ugly

Hitler approved aesthetic (they would think this is a compliment)

Remember that even Hitler was very charismatic and soft spoken on most of his personal interactions.

Charisma as very little to do with morals.

Fascists are great liars

Probably because they are the only single ones because of their red flags.

Stuck in a red state?

I could never trust or respect a second-term Trump voter. That says to me quite plainly that person doesn’t have any values, principles, or ideas. At least none that would be compatible with mine.

If I’m on a date and she tells me that she voted for Donald Trump, I’m asking for the check and walking the fuck out of there. Certain behaviors are deal breakers.

Yeah but I don’t want to be around fascist enablers so no, I won’t be compromising.

Are there honestly examples where two people significantly disagreed politically and got along with each other? Life itself is hard enough, I want a teammate not an oppressor.

I would wager that many of us were raised with some basic shared ethical values. Things like “if you break it, you repair, replace, or pay for it” or “if you make a mistake, learn from it and do better.”

Someone who repeatedly makes the same mistake without learning from it is a bad person. Voting for a Republican or conservative Democrat once could be called a mistake, but doing it repeatedly, denying the evidence of your eyes and ears and bank account — or worse, repeatedly participating in the widespread harm and oppression, and failing to fight against it after aiding them — makes you a bad person. Being tired, overworked, deceived, stupid, or any other excuse does not grant absolution. Actions have consequences, and therefore actions matter. Making a mess accidentally doesn’t make you a bad person, but failing to recognize a mistake and/or failing to correct it and/or doing it again does.

Identity politics have reached such an extreme that people really are what they vote, and the politics reflect that.

Politics used to be more of “we both want the country to go the same way, we just disagree on how to get there.”

Now one side is “fuck democracy, ostracize the lgbtq people, bring on the brownshirts, fuck science and the climate, too!” With pretty broad support for many of those motives.

It’s not that the system has become important, it’s that the participants have debased the system to the lowest hanging fruit on the asshole tree.

Maybe you’re idealizing the past? I was watching a Seinfeld episode from like 97 that was about Elaine liking a guy but she has to find out if he’s an anti abortion conservative before she goes further. So even in those days there was enough of a divide that people were talking about it. Go back to the 60s same thing, you weren’t gonna have left hippies dating right wing yuppies. It’s important to find a partner who is not in support of whatever the fuck conservatives think they’re doing nowadays, especially for a woman who may feel vulnerable and doesn’t wanna fall into a pit with a guy who doesn’t share her values and sees her as less than himself

I’m more than okay with talking but would not advocate for anyone to date a Trump voter. That speaks to a profound lack of judgement / humanity that will eventually rear its head in the relationship. If someone voted for Trump but is then reformed, sure that could be considered om a case by case basis but otherwise it’s a hard stop for me and many people. Especially if any of the women in my life were dating a Trump supporter, I would be genuinely concerned for their safety.

no it makes them bad.
the only people that could’ve stomached voting for trump are racists or bigots… xenophobes….
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if they weren’t one of those, there’s no way they’d be so ignorant as to not have heard him say some nazi, racist shit….
i could forgive someone for being naive for just about any other election, but not that.

The problem is with the fact that when the discussion about human rights, there is no middle ground. There is no compromise when it comes to human rights. Everyone deserves the same rights and protections, and if someone is trying to argue that people who have more melanin or aren’t completely cis-het deserve fewer rights, there is no middle ground to be had.

Thankfully, I’m married and don’t have to deal with this bullshit, but if I was dating these days, I would open with asking if they support my right to bodily autonomy and if their answer was anything besides “yes, absolutely”, I’d get up and leave. Although, if I had to try to date these days, I’d probably just date women because I’m bi and men can be a coin toss on basic safety.

Again I would not want to date a person that ignorant, and especially someone who would think a vote for Bernie was the same as Trump. Lastly we have always chose people over their stances.

Any women here who are pro choice went out of your way to date a abortion hating man?

It is worse now, literally women rather be trap in the woods with a bear then most men. Maybe it is time to look at ourselves in the mirror and figure out if we are the problem.

If so, this magical median voter is so poorly informed that they are not worth your time.

the reality is more nuanced

In general, when it comes to dating, it seems everyone really just wants the idea in their head and nothing else. I’m just glad I’m a person who doesn’t need someone else to feel whole.

That’s because people are being kidnapped and murdered by the state now. Blame the side doing the kidnapping and murdering, and maybe fight back so we can go back to a time where political disagreement is not life or death.

The median voter is a privileged dumbfuck who has no consistent set of values to begin with.

there are thousands and thousands of median voters who have no idea what’s going on in politics and figure a vote for trump was the same as a vote for bernie was the same as a vote for clinton and so on. It doesn’t make them bad it makes them overworked, ignorant, tired or poorly educated.

God, I do so love reading liberal apologia. Fascism is at your door and all you can do is cry about how people aren’t doing enough to understand them.

DSA meetings tbh. I know people think they are democrat lovers but since 2016 the org has moved more and more to the left and marxists are pretty popular.