• NastyNative@mander.xyz
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    Netanyahu should take a trip to the UK, the US will pay for it! That flight ticket would save the American people billions!

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    Everything I don’t like is antisemitic, everyone I dont like is terrorist. Change my mind

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    Please allow me as a bit of a centrist and a sympathizer of Israel say that if ICC wants Netanjahu to appear, then Netanjahu pretty fucking much should be clearing his schedule for the next few months and start packing. Together with Putin and I don’t know, perhaps every living American president.

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    It is antisemitic. All the other atrocities in the world and Israel gets chosen, of course.

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      “I mean, sure Israel is murdering thousands of children, expelling people from their homes, bombing a sovereign nation unprovoked, and Israel is bulldozing homes to make way for new settlements. But other nations do bad stuff too so this is obviously antisemitic”

      What’s antisemitic is conflating the actions of Israel with Jewish people. Jews aren’t inherently fascist and fascist Jews aren’t all Jews.

      This is also fucking disgusting as antisemitism is a real thing. Trying to conflate it with Israel critique makes people take antisemitism less seriously which is also dangerous.

      • OccamsTeapot@lemmy.worldOP
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        This is also fucking disgusting as antisemitism is a real thing. Trying to conflate it with Israel critique makes people take antisemitism less seriously which is also dangerous.

        This right here. People saying this don’t care about antisemitism, they just want to feel good while they defend their favourite apartheid state

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          Oh? What’s the official number? Perhaps you can report how many children Israel has counted.

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              I’d love to, but Isreal seems intent on bombing everyone who enters Gaza. Aid workers, children, and evacuees alike.

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                Lol, that’s completely false.

                Try to send a Jewish person into Gaza, and see how long Hamas will let them live.

                Now look at the Arabs, imams, living in Israel peacefully.

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                  How does what you say excuse the wanton slaughter of women and children in Gaza?

                  You are giving a reason for the genocide. Hitler said the jews were greedy, Netayahoo says the Arabs are violent. And just like the nazis, you repeat whatever vile thing your leader says.

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                  You can’t argue with hamas ass-kissers. I’m disgusted by the masses that hamas influenced with their sick nazi-propaganda.

                  Well, keep up the good fight!

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              Then how can you claim the statement is a lie?

              Right, because it makes Israel look bad. Anything that makes them look bad is a lie right?

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          Start watching any news. I would love to see any count that has the number of kids dead not in the thousands.

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              No. So why would it be antisemitic rather than just… directed against people who break international law? Literally do you have any evidence for this assertion whatsoever that doesn’t depend on complete and utter ignorance of this and other ICC actions?

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                Because he’s not breaking any laws. He’s in a war. Say what you want, I stand with Israel 100%.

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                  I stand with Israel 100%.

                  I can see that.

                  I guess we will have to agree to disagree about the law. Luckily for me the court seems to agree with my assessment

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                  If you stand with Israel, you stand for genocide. You stand next to a war criminal.

                  I’m guessing you were raised to think the motherland can do no wrong and this complete lack of empathy for the Palestinian people was drilled into you.

                  The longer you take to break through the brainwashing, the longer it will take for you to forgive yourself for these disgusting comments.

                  Imagine the Germans that defended and enabled Hitler fervently during the holocaust and ask yourself if you wish to ealk in their steps.

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      Isn’t the ICC famous for focusing too much on Africa? Some call it the African Criminal Court. But sure, it is antisemitic that after all the trials in the global south, they go after Israel.

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      Who cares about being antisemitic?

      I’m a proud antisemite; I think Israel shouldn’t commit genocide.

      I am a huge sinophobe; I think uyghurs shouldn’t be “reeducated.”

      I fucking hate Canadians; first nations got screwed.

      I hate all Arabs and muslims; kashnoggi shouldn’t have been cut into pieces.

      I hate white people; we need to fix inequality.

      I’m a traitor to my country; I think it could be improved.

      I’m a devil worshipper; I like D&D.

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        There is still no genocide committed by israel, it’s just hamas propaganda, you know, those guys who really committed a genocide on jewish people.

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          I would look up the definition of genocide. What hamas did was objectively bad, but not a genocide. What israel is doing is.

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            Ah yes, going into israel to rape, kill and enslave jews for being jewish and destroying religional and cultural jewish places is not a genocide, got it.

            However, carrying out a well planned and structured militaty operation on hamas terrorists is one, oh well.

            Did you read the definition of genocide?

            the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group. “a campaign of genocide” (the aim to destroy that nation or group is important here, hamas, hezbollah, houthis and iran want to kill all jews[nation or ethnic group], israel want to destroy hamas[terrorist group, neither a nation nor an ethnic group])

            I just say “from the river to the sea” or “kill all jews”

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            So why are Arabs living in Israel if they want to commit a genocide?

            Seems Israel is really bad at it, lmao

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          Ignore Hamas. Read the infamous report from the US that was used by Israel as evidence they weren’t committing genocide. The report cleared Israel, and so it was used as a defense.

          But actually read the report.

          According to the US / Israel, they’re holding up food, making it difficult to access, making it get stuck in transit, making it get lost, making zero effort to facilitate / distribute, making it dangerous for people to solve it themselves, etc.

          But they never triggered the video game-like definition of genocide. They didn’t use god-like powers to absolutely withhold food. They didn’t declare “I’m doing a genocide.” Technically some people could eat sometimes, and some pencil pusher can’t change definitions on the fly, therefore no genocide.

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            Hamas steals food from their citizens. Israel should not be responsible for providing aid to an area they are at war with, yet they do.